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check engine light (only on highway) by lg_lamb
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I have a stock 88 with a V6. The check engine light comes on whenever I drive on the highway (sometimes within a few miles other times after about 20 minutes of driving). After I shut the car off and turn it back on the light does not come back on (unless I drive on the highway again). When I drive back home without taking the highway the light does not come on so it doesn't seem to be coming on after a set time but rather when driven over 60mph for a period. It has been doing this for the past month as I was hoping eventually the light would just stay on so I could have a shop look at it. Oh, I did replace the gas cap when this started happening and that did not solve the problem.

As a second question, any tips on checking the oil level. After I add some oil and re-dip the dipstick the oil seems to coat all over and make the dipstick hard to read the level. I have checked the oil level in many other cars and never had this problem with such a simple task.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks
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Report this Post07-26-2013 06:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You are getting a code 32 I would guess, and the information is still in the computer...so you can check it ..light on or not.

//www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ECMCodes

The dipstick tube is long and bendy, so as you pull the stick out it picks up oil. 4 or 5 retries usually clears it out.

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Report this Post07-26-2013 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DefEddieClick Here to Email DefEddieSend a Private Message to DefEddieEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not enough info for an actual diagnosis,but i'm gonna say EGR since it only functions at cruise speeds and steady throttle.
Too many throttle transitions in city driving to actuate EGR.
Mine had a bad vaccum solenoid,I just unplugged the valve and turned it off in the prom.
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Report this Post07-26-2013 11:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NetCamClick Here to visit NetCam's HomePageSend a Private Message to NetCamEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Really sounds like the EGR to me as well. Have a good look around the manifold area on both sides. I was getting a code 32 on mine under very similar circumstances and it turned out one of my vacuum hoses had come off. Plugged it back in and haven't seen a code in about 5,000 miles.
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Report this Post07-27-2013 10:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for vizzionnSend a Private Message to vizzionnEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
mine does the exact opposite at idle after warmed up the check engine loight comes on but when im moving it goes out lol 88 2.5

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Report this Post07-27-2013 12:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JCircsClick Here to Email JCircsSend a Private Message to JCircsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I had that problem too, it was either the vacuum line at the bottom of the throttle body or the breather line from the rear valve cover to the rubber intake. It was a simple fix in my case, I just reconnected it and the light never came back on.

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I have the same thing going on right now with my newly installed engine I will have to check those things out as well maybe one came loose on the install.
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The two things to look for on a check engine light while driving steady state on the highway are Code 32 EGR, and O2 sensor.

One of my scanner cables would tell you which one it is for sure http://reddevilriver.com/aldl.html (cheap plug)

Rob next time I am down that way I'll drop one off.

I don't have a great way to figure out if it's 32 or the O2 sensor without the cable but maybe someone on the forum can give an indication? Maybe like code 32 stays on usually until the key is turned off, but the O2 sensor can turn itself off ?? Maybe? I just don't know that for sure.

I do know code 32 will remain in memory even if the light is off until the battery is disconnected. Check your codes to see if any remain. //www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ECMCodes

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Could be an off idle speed issue. Have you checked to see if any codes remain even though the light is off? - //www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ECMCodes

 
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mine does the exact opposite at idle after warmed up the check engine loight comes on but when im moving it goes out lol 88 2.5


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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

The two things to look for on a check engine light while driving steady state on the highway are Code 32 EGR, and O2 sensor.

One of my scanner cables would tell you which one it is for sure http://reddevilriver.com/aldl.html (cheap plug)

Rob next time I am down that way I'll drop one off.

I don't have a great way to figure out if it's 32 or the O2 sensor without the cable but maybe someone on the forum can give an indication? Maybe like code 32 stays on usually until the key is turned off, but the O2 sensor can turn itself off ?? Maybe? I just don't know that for sure.

I do know code 32 will remain in memory even if the light is off until the battery is disconnected. Check your codes to see if any remain. //www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ECMCodes



COol would love for you to stop over, I need you too look at the harness for the rottin chop anyway. From what I am told you already had to fix one of the harnesses that came out of that shop. I checked the codes and I have a code 32 I grabbed the egr valve and it moves freely so maybe the new stainless lines are restrictive and it does not move right? the o2 sensor is brand new too.
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Code 32 on the Fiero is for the EGR control solenoid, not the EGR valve. Most likely it isn't a problem with the vacuum lines being too restricted.

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Code 32 on the Fiero is for the EGR control solenoid, not the EGR valve. Most likely it isn't a problem with the vacuum lines being too restricted.


Hmmm is that that tube looking thing on the battery side of the engine?
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You can easily jumper the aldl and just count the flashes for the code.
Next time you get the CEL than don't turn the key off,stick a bent paperclip in the aldl.
Can't remember orientation of aldl,but just look at it and there will only be a couple with pins installed right next to each other.
Stick the paperclip in to both pins and when you get the right ones the CEL will start flashing.
Sometimes after jumpering you will need to cycle keyoff and back on again to get flashes,so try that after jumpering.

I don't like suggesting randomly inserting the paperclip,but i've literally done it to 50+ OBDI cars (including fiero) and never shorted or messed anything up so don't think you will have an issue.

That will give you the code,google or post from there.
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