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Aux. connector for a IPOD!! by NightMare Cruiser
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Here's link to how to hook up your IPOD to your factory radio. http://eurosportvr.com/ Look towards the bottom of the page for (DIY GM Delco AUX input instructions )

I just did mine and it works great!!
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Thanks

This covers Tape w/o EQ

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I'll be using this soon. Thanks. +1
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I've got slightly shaky hands and soldering these small wires is hard!

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Alright, I'm all done. This isn't going to blow up my iPod when I hook it up, is it?
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Report this Post07-22-2013 07:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin87FieroGTSend a Private Message to Kevin87FieroGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
NightMare: Does your radio have the cass w/eq?

Ogre: Anyreason this will / should not work with eq?
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No, eq in radio. Yes cass! I wanted to keep the radio stock as possible . I never seen a replacement radio that made me say "wow" .
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Originally posted by Kevin87FieroGT:
Ogre: Anyreason this will / should not work with eq?

EQ has different wires... Search in archives

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Thanks Ogre.
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I have a few of those cassette things you put in a player like a cassette that has a cord that plugs into any miniature jack on MP3 player, Ipod, radio, CB, TV, etc. Anything Ive plugged in plays just fine.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

I have a few of those cassette things you put in a player like a cassette that has a cord that plugs into any miniature jack on MP3 player, Ipod, radio, CB, TV, etc. Anything Ive plugged in plays just fine.


Yes, they just don't sound as good. Good cassette players have 22kHz at best. (Sound worse than FM radio stations) The Fiero deck is far from good.
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I have a few of those cassette things you put in a player like a cassette that has a cord that plugs into any miniature jack on MP3 player, Ipod, radio, CB, TV, etc. Anything Ive plugged in plays just fine.

They work in tape players that work. Many old Delco players are decorations... Dead belts are famous but often many parts are worn out or dead.
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I just wanted to say that I finished this and it works great. The sound quality if superb. I still haven't mounted the jack yet though. I was going to put it by the cigarette lighter but now I'm thinking I'll put it under the trunk popper since I don't have rear defrost. What do you gotta do to run the wire to there? Pull out the gauge cluster?
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They work in tape players that work. Many old Delco players are decorations... Dead belts are famous but often many parts are worn out or dead.


Im not sure because I never had a tape player that didnt work. I dont know if a worn or broken belt will keep one of the plug ins from working since there is no tape or moving parts in it. Far as I know they just send the signal from the device onto the playback heads in the player. You may be right, I have no way of testing it.

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Originally posted by NoMoreRicers:

I just wanted to say that I finished this and it works great. The sound quality if superb. I still haven't mounted the jack yet though. I was going to put it by the cigarette lighter but now I'm thinking I'll put it under the trunk popper since I don't have rear defrost. What do you gotta do to run the wire to there? Pull out the gauge cluster?


That whole plate (with the trunk popper switch) is removable....it just unscrews with 4 Torx screws. It should be easy. No gauge cluster removal needed

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i would like to find out how to on the 98-99 decks... if anyone has a link or info? thanks
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That whole plate (with the trunk popper switch) is removable....it just unscrews with 4 Torx screws. It should be easy. No gauge cluster removal needed



Yeah, I realize that. However, there is no lower opening at the back of that area. The only opening is from above where the trunk popper wires fold over.
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Im not sure because I never had a tape player that didnt work. I dont know if a worn or broken belt will keep one of the plug ins from working since there is no tape or moving parts in it. Far as I know they just send the signal from the device onto the playback heads in the player. You may be right, I have no way of testing it.


Actually, it does have moving parts, they just don't really do anything in the adapter itself. The wheels in the adapter will still spin and if the stereo is a auto reverse unit and those wheels get stuck it will auto reverse and try to spin them the other way. If they still won't spin the adapter will be ejected. Those wheels need to move or the adapter will not work.

That being said, I also don't know if a broken belt would keep it from working. Some stereos I've had when a belt was broken, the tape would just sit in the deck like it was playing but no sound came out because the tape wasn't actually moving. With one of these adapters it wouldn't matter because it's head to head contact and without the spindle rotating to turn the tape, the wheels in the adapter won't effect anything. On a side note, next time you have a tape adapter in and your using it, try hitting the auto reverse button and see what happens. On several of the stereos I had in the past, when the tape head shifted to play the other side of the tape, one side of the sound would drop out because the head in the adapter was no longer properly aligned.
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Just so your aware, I did this on my head unit with an equalizer, had no issues. I was the original to follow this method. I was in process of re-writing, and taking fiero related photos decided just to share original source.
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Originally posted by NoMoreRicers:

I just wanted to say that I finished this and it works great. The sound quality if superb. I still haven't mounted the jack yet though. I was going to put it by the cigarette lighter but now I'm thinking I'll put it under the trunk popper since I don't have rear defrost. What do you gotta do to run the wire to there? Pull out the gauge cluster?


I wouldn't recommend it, due to the wire hanging. I'd suggest either next to cig, outlet is where I had it, or my second choice, the ashtray and also install an cig outlet.
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I wouldn't recommend it, due to the wire hanging.


I'm not sure what you mean, can you explain more please?
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Originally posted by NightMare Cruiser:

Here's link to how to hook up your IPOD to your factory radio. http://eurosportvr.com/ Look towards the bottom of the page for (DIY GM Delco AUX input instructions )



Here are more direct links:

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Originally posted by Austrian Import:

Good cassette players have 22kHz at best. (Sound worse than FM radio stations) The Fiero deck is far from good.



Good luck with that. Even the best cassette players seldom exceed 16 to 18 KHz bandwidth, at best, which equals or exceeds the capability of most human ears. (The bandwidth of standard FM broadcast is limited by regulation to 15 KHz.) The cheap speakers and dismal signal-to-noise ratio inside a Fiero cabin will make high frequencies even less perceptible. I certainly agree that the OEM Fiero radio is not a high-audio-quality device, but then it was never intended to be.

FWIW, 22 KHz is the absolute bandwidth limit for CD audio (44.1 KHz sample rate).

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That being said, I also don't know if a broken belt would keep it from working. Some stereos I've had when a belt was broken, the tape would just sit in the deck like it was playing but no sound came out because the tape wasn't actually moving. With one of these adapters it wouldn't matter because it's head to head contact and without the spindle rotating to turn the tape, the wheels in the adapter won't effect anything. On a side note, next time you have a tape adapter in and your using it, try hitting the auto reverse button and see what happens. On several of the stereos I had in the past, when the tape head shifted to play the other side of the tape, one side of the sound would drop out because the head in the adapter was no longer properly aligned.

GM and most others DO NOT move the head for auto-reverse. Head has 4 channels, 2 forward and 2 reverse.
No sound on 1 or more channel means Head, Head preamp, or electronics control auto-reverse function have died.
I have a GM unit w/ this problem...

Belt break depend on how tape is designed... Some can work w/ adapters ok w/ dead belts. Many will barf out a tape/adapters or get stuck switching forward/reverse when no movement.

Adapter match head alignment for best sound. Some adapters has user adjustment "switches"/etc for adapter's head for this.

Cheap ones use cheap heads...
Cheap ones can make noise when new or has time to wear from the gears/wheels/pulleys/etc that keeps auto-reverse/stop happy.
Edit> Many old players make noise too. Fiero cabin often has enough road noise to drown out that...

Tape head DOES wear for playing tapes and that can/does effect sound output. Head wear = freq response suffers.
Example, New head spec is 18khz? worn head can be a little to allot less.
Heavy wear can/will affect adapter too.

I used adapters too. Is Ok but best sound needs a jack into main amp.

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I'm not sure what you mean, can you explain more please?


while your driving you want the aux cord out of your area, atleast thats how it is for me, I dont want wires hanging by my steering wheel or feet.
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while your driving you want the aux cord out of your area, atleast thats how it is for me, I dont want wires hanging by my steering wheel or feet.


Oh, I see what you mean. I just thought it would be convenient because the headphone jack is on the top of my phone and I like to set it in the ash tray. I took off the top of the center console and it looks like it would be a pain to feed the jack past the shifter under the passenger side ash tray. I'll have to look at it more.
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My turn to try this project. I have the top off of the radio now.

Edit: I have decided to front mount the aux jack on the faceplate of the radio so that it is all self contained. There may be enough room for the plug near the volume knob. I'll report back in a while.

Edit 2.2: New location being explored

Ain't it perty?


I had to cut out some metal to make room.


How it looks back together. I'm going to use a black sharpie on the metal circle so it will not be noticeable much at all.


All that is left now is to install it and test it out with an expendable radio.


Sooo cool! Thank you for this thread.
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Looks good I would like to try this on a 95 Cavalier CD Delco radio.

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