Just noticed these coilover strut sets on ebay. The price seem crazy low so I am curious at the least. Complete stuts WITH coilover kit for $190. Here is the description:
MOOKEEH MK1 COILOVER CONVERSION KIT BRAND NEW FITS
- 84-88 FIERO (REARS ONLY)
- AVERAGE DROP 1"-2"
- HEAVY DUTY HIGH QUALITY SPRINGS ARE GUARANTEE NOT TO SAG
Just noticed these coilover strut sets on ebay. The price seem crazy low so I am curious at the least. Complete stuts WITH coilover kit for $190. Here is the description:
MOOKEEH MK1 COILOVER CONVERSION KIT BRAND NEW FITS
- 84-88 FIERO (REARS ONLY)
- AVERAGE DROP 1"-2"
- HEAVY DUTY HIGH QUALITY SPRINGS ARE GUARANTEE NOT TO SAG
No, they don't even have the perches cut off, they do not look adjustable, the shocks are probably not that great at that price, they don't even give you a spring rate and it looks like you would have very little travel until the shock bottomed out.
One of the main reasons for going to coilovers is to be able to put wider tires on the rear and still maintain the stock look. By that I mean that the tire has to go further inboard. Coilovers help with this by using a smaller diameter spring which allows more tire clearance inboard. So, coilovers for Fieros use taller springs, typically 12" long and the big perch is cut off of the struts. These e bay struts still have the big perch so they will interfere with wider tires. And like a previous poster said, they don't look adjustable and they have springs that are too short.
As I can read here the Mookeeh coilover kit is not worth the asking price. Furthermore, this eBay seller is too stupid to specify spring rates in the item description. The seller is also not able to measure spring dimensions for spring rate calc.
But what about these pillow ball strut mounts? I know they´re also not cheap for $130. - (furthermore you also need to buy flat top hats), but do you think these strut mounts are a big improvement over the factory rubber mounts?
I think these Mk1 pillow ball strut mounts will allow us to set more negative camber compared to conventional camber bolts.
No need other than to just show them off when the trunk is open. I have a full poly 87 with coilovers on the rear and drop spindles and spring on the front. You can get all of the positive or negative adjustment with a camber bolt. Look at your strut, see the botom hole? Notice how there are tangs in the sheetmetal of the strut? It was made for camber bolt, check out the acdelco ones on rockauto, they give +\- 3 degrees. Works great.
The highest adjustable range with a camber bolt which I have found so far is 3 deg in total (+/- 1.5 deg).
But I think +/- 1.5 deg should be sufficient for most of us, unless we don´t want to get extreme negative camber like -3 deg or something.
I can remember about my old ´87 Fiero where I have installed a camber bolt kit. If I recall correctly, the max. camber was -1.9 deg on one side and on the other side a little bit more. (but of course I tried to adjusted both sides to the same camber) I have already ordered camber bolts for my new ´88 Fiero too.
Yes Tony, the early struts will fit the '88 Fiero. As for the coilover kit mentioned above, I would avoid that. It's lacking the main things people look for in coilover kits, which is height adjustment and removal of the stock spring perches.
....I think these Mk1 pillow ball strut mounts will allow us to set more negative camber compared to conventional camber bolts.
What these MAY allow you to do is move the top of the strut inwards which in turn will add clearance for a slightly wider wheel. Then the actual strut knuckle can be adjusted to the stock specs.
What these MAY allow you to do is move the top of the strut inwards which in turn will add clearance for a slightly wider wheel.
Yes, this would be a further advantage, but I hope cutted strut perches and smaller coilover springs or OEM front springs installed in the rear with a smaller OD will provide sufficient tire clearance.
But what about wear? How many years will these Mookeeh MK1 pillow ball mounts work reliable? Maybe over some years these pillow balls will wear and will cause suspension noises…
The OEM Fiero mount is a very simple and reliable design with a "rubber pillow bearing". Of course, rubber components are not as stiff as metal but for NVH it is beneficial.
I think for my plans (street performer Fiero / no autocross competition racing) usual camber bolts with new KYB GR2 struts and OEM strut mounts should be sufficient.
I am sure many have been deceived on internet items. I have and do still buy. One item related is a set of springs I bought which promised 200 lb ratings. My humble measurement showed them barely up to 85 lb. I returned them but the ad continued to run for a long time. Amazing how outrageous some of the stuff is. But....after much head scratching I once bought a set of tube headers for $99 thinking they would be junk. They are still running , no broken welds, some mods required to work, but amazingly good. Go figure.
