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Coil Spring Insulators by RotrexFiero
Started on: 06-11-2014 06:58 PM
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Report this Post06-11-2014 06:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Anyone know of a good source for coil spring insulators? They are those rubber inserts that go above and below the coil springs.

Even something after market would be good.
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Report this Post06-11-2014 07:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for notwohornsSend a Private Message to notwohornsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The Fiero Store has them
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Report this Post06-11-2014 07:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I use 1/2" heater hose.

[This message has been edited by fieroguru (edited 06-12-2014).]

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Report this Post06-13-2014 01:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I believe that Rotrex is looking for the rubber donut insulators.

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Report this Post06-13-2014 07:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The front end of my Fiero is getting lower, and I believe it is from all the potholes here. The constant pounding on the front wheels and also, more than likely, the deterioration of the stock insulators is lowering the car. My mechanic said the front end looks good, no problems with all the geometry. So I am going to replace the insulators and hope that gives me more lift. The roads up here are really bad. Even the SUVs slow down for the craters we have here.
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Report this Post06-13-2014 10:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Sorry but Insulators doesn't make car lowered very much or at all.

Bushing can fail w/o obvious problem you and many "mechanics" can see.

I had a front LCA bushing outer shell that rusted out ~1/3 of it. Looked ok from bottom but top that rusted is hided by LCA. Big pain even test because enough left to pass on a lift or jacked up.

Polly bushings can wear/compress enough center hole is oval shape. This can happen w/o noise.

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Report this Post06-13-2014 01:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It could just be aging springs sagging.

WCF sells aluminum spring spacer rings to raise the car slightly. They start at 1/8" and get thicker 1/8" at a time... but it might be cheaper to just get some new springs.

http://www.westcoastfiero.c...pension/springs.html
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Report this Post06-14-2014 01:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Fiero Store is awesome. Ordered three days ago and there here.

I'll let you know if it fixes my problem. Can't hurt.
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Originally posted by theogre:

Sorry but Insulators doesn't make car lowered very much or at all.

Bushing can fail w/o obvious problem you and many "mechanics" can see.

I had a front LCA bushing outer shell that rusted out ~1/3 of it. Looked ok from bottom but top that rusted is hided by LCA. Big pain even test because enough left to pass on a lift or jacked up.

Polly bushings can wear/compress enough center hole is oval shape. This can happen w/o noise.



While I have poly control arm bushings, I believe that for everyday driving they are not the best . I have heard many reports of Prothane bushings wearing faster than their rubber counterpart. For Rotrex I would recommend that he also check the control arm mounting holes as these can elongate as well.

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Report this Post06-15-2014 03:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Fixed. The old stock insulators were crushed. I have lowering springs and so with this years pot holes they are just not great. I replaced the insulators and went for a ride, and I have more clearance.

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Originally posted by RotrexFiero:

I replaced the insulators and went for a ride, and I have more clearance.


Were the insulators both top and bottom replaced?

With the weight of the car squishing those new rubber insulators down, how much do you believe they actually raised the suspension?

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Report this Post06-16-2014 02:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I measured before and after. It was very noticeable.
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Originally posted by RotrexFiero:

I measured before and after. It was very noticeable.


Sounds like something posted at a penis extension site... and just as questionable.

I suspect the "very noticeable" difference might be due to the springs having been removed and re-installed. After they settle, it's difficult to imagine that the rubber spring insulators themselves would add more than half an inch or so to the height of the car. But hey, I certainly don't know for sure.
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I love the heater hose idea.
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Report this Post06-17-2014 12:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The springs have settled. The potholes here, along with the roads, are tough on any suspension. The car is lifted a full inch. It was worth it, an unquestionalby necessary.

In the true hotrod spirit the heater hoses are a cool idea.
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