This quote is from the middle of the article. The Governor should be so proud. He's supported all this
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Why The Exit?
Valero has faced rising expenses tied to California's ambitious environmental regulations, legal disputes, and compliance upgrades. Executives say the regulatory environment has become structurally unworkable, despite negotiations with state officials.
A spokesperson acknowledged the company worked toward solutions, but "nothing has materialized" to keep Benicia operational. The message is clear: costs have eclipsed the benefits of staying — even for a major global player.
I actually feel bad for CA residents/drivers but, you get the leadership you elect. This Governor wants to be our next President. Consider that!
Rams
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The loss of refinery capacity is causing a panic among the Democrats. They are trying incentivize someone, anyone to buy the refinery and keep it operating. It is no secret that not only is the Democrat run California government very anti-business they are extremely anti-petroleum.
I expect very high gasoline prices in the near future, probably in the $8+/gallon price. We will see what happens. Maybe CARB will cave in get rid of the special California blend of fuel that has to be refined in state. Then gasoline can be purchased from surrounding states which will help mitigate some of the cost. If the price of gas skyrockets, there will be voter blow-back against the Democrats.
Personally I have already reduced my driving dramatically. I drive about 1,500 miles a year. I only fill up my gas tank about every other month. High gas prices will not be pleasant but it won't break my bank account.
I only fill up my gas tank about every other month. High gas prices will not be pleasant but it won't break my bank account.
I suspect many will be following your lead. Hopefully, CA voters will figure out where the problem is. (Although, I have significant doubts about that.
Unfortunately, CA Liberals {in general} follow their party and always blame 'everything' on the other side of the aisle...
Well, that brings up another problem, both Harris and Newsom want to be the Dem's candidate for the Oval Office. I suspect that negotiations are ongoing as to who will be on top (of the ticket).
My Lord, what an ugly thought.............................. Sorry about that.
Not to mention that California's violation of Federal law regarding CDL licenses to foreign drivers has been wrecking the trucking industry and killing people on the highways.....
Not to mention that California's violation of Federal law regarding CDL licenses to foreign drivers has been wrecking the trucking industry and killing people on the highways.....
There are reports of other states addressing these fraudulent CDLs with those possessing the CA CDLs being questioned in English and asked to read and know different signage on the road. Those failing are not allowed to continue. It's also been reported that FL is suing CA due to a non-English speaking driver with a CA CDL being directly responsible for killing three people while operating a semi-tractor/trailer. Federal law is very clear about this, CA leadership doesn't seem to give a damn about public safety.
Rams
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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:
Yes, Prop 50 has significant stakes far beyond California’s borders!
THEY want to stop President Donald Trump’s 'common sense' agenda and then control the federal government in 2029....
Absolutely no doubt about what the Left is attempting.
Only US citizens should be counted in our Census/population counts and let the chips fall where they may. Counting illegal aliens for representation in Congress is manipulating the system and should not be allowed.
Rams
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Absolutely no doubt about what the Left is attempting.
Only US citizens should be counted in our Census/population counts and let the chips fall where they may. Counting illegal aliens for representation in Congress is manipulating the system and should not be allowed.
Rams
I guess counting them at the rate of 3/5 would be too obvious a compromise ...
Yes, Prop 50 has significant stakes far beyond California’s borders!
THEY want to stop President Donald Trump’s 'common sense' agenda and then control the federal government in 2029....
I got a fundraising letter today which, if Reform California is correct, indicates that Prop 50 will easily pass. My armchair theory is that the state has to hit rock bottom before enough people wake up to overcome the election rigging, which will now be a higher goal. $8 gas and a mileage tax probably won't be enough, as apparently burned-out cities, job loss, and rampant crime seem to be acceptable. What 'rock bottom' looks like would make an interesting discussion. Newsome's record will be hidden when he runs for President. Since he can handle himself quite well before a live camera, I fear he will be very difficult to beat.
I guess counting them at the rate of 3/5 would be too obvious a compromise ...
Well, I'd say more like 0/0. Illegal Aliens should not affect the Census in any way, shape or form.
Edited: If, you think throwing a racial card into the mix makes any difference, you're way off base. I couldn't care less who the illegal is, from or, what their nationality or race is, where they are from, they do not deserve representation in the US congress. They are illegal immigrants.
We have rules for immigration, follow them and welcome.
Rams
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Well, I'd say more like 0/0. Illegal Aliens should not affect the Census in any way, shape or form.
Edited: If, you think throwing a racial card into the mix makes any difference, you're way off base. I couldn't care less who the illegal is, from or, what their nationality or race is, where they are from, they do not deserve representation in the US congress. They are illegal immigrants.
We have rules for immigration, follow them and welcome.
Rams
I was just making an oblique reference to the colonial era 3/5 compromise, instead of counting slaves as (gasp!) fully people. I can see today's conservatives making a similarly wrong-headed deal in counting non-citizens, namely, 3/5 instead of 1. Like you I think people who broke the law by breaking into our country should not have the rights of citizens and should not count toward congressional apportionment.
I was just making an oblique reference to the colonial era 3/5 compromise, instead of counting slaves as (gasp!) fully people. I can see today's conservatives making a similarly wrong-headed deal in counting non-citizens, namely, 3/5 instead of 1. Like you I think people who broke the law by breaking into our country should not have the rights of citizens and should not count toward congressional apportionment.
Edited: After rereading your post, I got to thinking about what you stated about seeing today's Conservative making similar wrong-headed deal in counting non-citizens. Maybe I don't get out enough but, I can honestly state I've never heard or read anything like that being stated by any Conservative. I won't be surprised if you can't find some radical Conservative but, there is no movement to my knowledge to advance such an idea.
The problem manifested itself as a corrupt politician seeking power forever, posturing as honest. The Palisades got the Newsom ! Keren Bass too, practices the greasy politician smile in the mirror, ' How do I look ? ' ' Fuugly ! ' Worse ? Sure, it has to get worse before the Dempartie_Nazi_Hamas_Communist_Klan is destroyed. Sodom and Gomorrah worse, blasphemers, idol worshiping orcs diddling children. Newsom, bound with hemp rope, tarred, feathered, sent south for Tijuana , mounted backwards on a rail cart, lit on fire.. See, it is only fire and sword that the orcs understand. It has to be messy and horrible, so sad they do not comprehend the damage they have done. Too bad, waste them all ! ' It's all the drugs and money. It's just goddamn beyond everything. ' ~ Tom Bell, No Country for Old Men '07 Yay ! Trump !
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Might be wrong on this but, based on Newsom's latest attempt to bring in more money for CA's Social Programs, a 5% additional tax on billionaires who reside in CA. I fully expect to see a migration of those folks to other more moderate tax states. I also don't expect this to stop with billionaires, if Newsom doesn't come up with sufficient funding, he'll move on down the list of less fortunate rich folks.
I've always been in favor of a flat tax system with no breaks for related income, children or any other factor. Make more, pay more, make less, pay less but, the world doesn't work that way. Dems are always more about taxing and buying votes.
Rams
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California is in trouble. I have talked to so many people that say they are happy to pay taxes to live in a better society then find out they are not paying taxes. The **** you say, if you are not working then how are you supporting a better society.
Originally posted by Notorio: I was just making an oblique reference to the colonial era 3/5 compromise, instead of counting slaves as (gasp!) fully people. I can see today's conservatives making a similarly wrong-headed deal in counting non-citizens, namely, 3/5 instead of 1. Like you I think people who broke the law by breaking into our country should not have the rights of citizens and should not count toward congressional apportionment.
Were today's non-citizens sold into ownership here.
I'll tell you what. I will start living in your house, and tell you what I want on the grocery shopping list.
