The $10 million that Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration diverted to a state-created charity last year consisted of Medicaid dollars owed to state and federal taxpayers, contrary to what the governor and other officials have publicly asserted. Three years ago, lawyers working with the state drew up a settlement agreement that said Florida’s largest Medicaid contractor, Centene, overbilled taxpayers $67,048,611 for medications, according to a copy of a draft agreement obtained by the Herald/Times. That’s the exact amount DeSantis officials settled on with Centene last year. But instead of returning all $67 million to state and federal coffers, they sent $10 million of it to the Hope Florida Foundation, a charity overseen by first lady Casey DeSantis. The money was then sent to two nonprofit organizations that aren’t required to report how they spend their funds. Those “dark money” groups later gave $8.5 million to a political committee overseen by DeSantis’ chief of staff in a series of transactions that some Republican lawmakers believe was illegal. How Medicaid is allocated, which pays for healthcare services for the poor, is highly regulated. The document contradicts statements by DeSantis and state officials that the $10 million was a charitable contribution by Centene separate from what it owed to the state. DeSantis said earlier this month that the $10 million “was in addition to what they [the state] were getting.” “This is kind of like a cherry on top, where they agreed to make an additional contribution,” he said, in his only detailed remarks since the unusual settlement became the target of a House Republican investigation. DeSantis has primarily responded to the accusations by lashing out at reporters and lawmakers who have questioned aspects of the Hope Florida initiative, which is intended to move Floridians off of government services. The February 2022 draft agreement was drawn up the same month that DeSantis’ then-chief of staff began settlement negotiations, calendar entries show. Florida officials first became aware that Centene owed the state money in 2021. At the time, Ohio, Mississippi and other states were reaching settlements with the Medicaid giant after it overbilled for prescription drugs. The overbilling was uncovered by politically connected Mississippi law firms, which helped states negotiate settlements with Centene in exchange for millions of dollars in contingency fees, the New York Times reported last year. The data the law firms used to calculate how much each state was owed is hidden from the public, the Times reported, making it impossible to know whether Centene paid its full share. Florida signed on with one of the firms, Liston & Deas, in December 2021. Months earlier, other lawyers working with the firm on the Centene settlements donated $100,000 to the Republican Party of Florida and $10,000 to then-Attorney General Ashley Moody’s political committee. DeSantis spokespeople and state officials have said that Centene was the first to notify the state it owed money. But that doesn’t align with what one of the original attorneys said. “We approached states, including Florida, that were eligible to participate,” attorney Lawrence Deas said in a statement Monday. On Feb. 10, 2022, DeSantis’ chief of staff, James Uthmeier, had a “Centene Call” with some of those lawyers, according to calendar entries first unearthed by investigative reporter Jason Garcia from the newsletter Seeking Rents. The records were posted on the governor’s public records portal. On June 16 that year, Uthmeier had another meeting with a lobbyist representing the lawyers, records show. He was joined by top DeSantis administration officials, including Deputy Chief of Staff Katie Strickland. Strickland oversees the healthcare agencies carrying out DeSantis’ Hope Florida initiative, including the Agency for Health Care Administration. Though Casey DeSantis has no official chief of staff, Strickland functionally serves in that role, according to four people familiar with the administration’s operations. Uthmeier and Strickland had three more meetings that year about Centene, including one with the CEO of the company’s Florida subsidiary, records show. Where the negotiations with Centene went after 2022 is unclear. Last month, KFF Health News reported that Florida and Georgia were the final holdouts among more than 20 states that had reached settlements with Centene. Florida officials didn’t respond to the news outlet’s questions. (Nearly all the states announced their settlements in news releases.) In reality, DeSantis officials had quietly reached a $67 million settlement with the company in September. It wasn’t publicly disclosed by the state until this month, when reporters and state Rep. Alex Andrade, a Pensacola Republican, began inquiring about a mysterious $10 million donation the Hope Florida Foundation had received as a result of a “longstanding dispute” with the state. The law firm Liston & Deas wasn’t part of the final settlement. The state fired them in 2023 and never paid them for their services, records show. Deas told the Herald/Times on Monday that a donation to Hope Florida Foundation was not mentioned in the settlement talks, and the firm didn’t learn of it until its lawyers saw media reports. DeSantis this month said the settlement was a “good deal” for the state. “There was a potential you could have filed a lawsuit,” he said. “But I can tell you, you look at it, it was not a clear-cut case that we were guaranteed to win, and certainly not guaranteed to win that much money.” DeSantis spokesperson Bryan Griffin said the negotiations were handled by the Agency for Health Care Administration. “Centene proactively made the state aware of a billing issue in 2021 and the state worked for years to ensure it was resolved,” Griffin said in a statement.
The $10 million that Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration diverted to a state-created charity last year consisted of Medicaid dollars owed to state and federal taxpayers, contrary to what the governor and other officials have publicly asserted. Three years ago, lawyers working with the state drew up a settlement agreement that said Florida’s largest Medicaid contractor, Centene, overbilled taxpayers $67,048,611 for medications, according to a copy of a draft agreement obtained by the Herald/Times. That’s the exact amount DeSantis officials settled on with Centene last year. But instead of returning all $67 million to state and federal coffers, they sent $10 million of it to the Hope Florida Foundation, a charity overseen by first lady Casey DeSantis. The money was then sent to two nonprofit organizations that aren’t required to report how they spend their funds. Those “dark money” groups later gave $8.5 million to a political committee overseen by DeSantis’ chief of staff in a series of transactions that some Republican lawmakers believe was illegal. How Medicaid is allocated, which pays for healthcare services for the poor, is highly regulated. The document contradicts statements by DeSantis and state officials that the $10 million was a charitable contribution by Centene separate from what it owed to the state. DeSantis said earlier this month that the $10 million “was in addition to what they [the state] were getting.” “This is kind of like a cherry on top, where they agreed to make an additional contribution,” he said, in his only detailed remarks since the unusual settlement became the target of a House Republican investigation. DeSantis has primarily responded to the accusations by lashing out at reporters and lawmakers who have questioned aspects of the Hope Florida initiative, which is intended to move Floridians off of government services. The February 2022 draft agreement was drawn up the same month that DeSantis’ then-chief of staff began settlement negotiations, calendar entries show. Florida officials first became aware that Centene owed the state money in 2021. At the time, Ohio, Mississippi and other states were reaching settlements with the Medicaid giant after it overbilled for prescription drugs. The overbilling was uncovered by politically connected Mississippi law firms, which helped states negotiate settlements with Centene in exchange for millions of dollars in contingency fees, the New York Times reported last year. The data the law firms used to calculate how much each state was owed is hidden from the public, the Times reported, making it impossible to know whether Centene paid its full share. Florida signed on with one of the firms, Liston & Deas, in December 2021. Months earlier, other lawyers working with the firm on the Centene settlements donated $100,000 to the Republican Party of Florida and $10,000 to then-Attorney General Ashley Moody’s political committee. DeSantis spokespeople and state officials have said that Centene was the first to notify the state it owed money. But that doesn’t align with what one of the original attorneys said. “We approached states, including Florida, that were eligible to participate,” attorney Lawrence Deas said in a statement Monday. On Feb. 10, 2022, DeSantis’ chief of staff, James Uthmeier, had a “Centene Call” with some of those lawyers, according to calendar entries first unearthed by investigative reporter Jason Garcia from the newsletter Seeking Rents. The records were posted on the governor’s public records portal. On June 16 that year, Uthmeier had another meeting with a lobbyist representing the lawyers, records show. He was joined by top DeSantis administration officials, including Deputy Chief of Staff Katie Strickland. Strickland oversees the healthcare agencies carrying out DeSantis’ Hope Florida initiative, including the Agency for Health Care Administration. Though Casey DeSantis has no official chief of staff, Strickland functionally serves in that role, according to four people familiar with the administration’s operations. Uthmeier and Strickland had three more meetings that year about Centene, including one with the CEO of the company’s Florida subsidiary, records show. Where the negotiations with Centene went after 2022 is unclear. Last month, KFF Health News reported that Florida and Georgia were the final holdouts among more than 20 states that had reached settlements with Centene. Florida officials didn’t respond to the news outlet’s questions. (Nearly all the states announced their settlements in news releases.) In reality, DeSantis officials had quietly reached a $67 million settlement with the company in September. It wasn’t publicly disclosed by the state until this month, when reporters and state Rep. Alex Andrade, a Pensacola Republican, began inquiring about a mysterious $10 million donation the Hope Florida Foundation had received as a result of a “longstanding dispute” with the state. The law firm Liston & Deas wasn’t part of the final settlement. The state fired them in 2023 and never paid them for their services, records show. Deas told the Herald/Times on Monday that a donation to Hope Florida Foundation was not mentioned in the settlement talks, and the firm didn’t learn of it until its lawyers saw media reports. DeSantis this month said the settlement was a “good deal” for the state. “There was a potential you could have filed a lawsuit,” he said. “But I can tell you, you look at it, it was not a clear-cut case that we were guaranteed to win, and certainly not guaranteed to win that much money.” DeSantis spokesperson Bryan Griffin said the negotiations were handled by the Agency for Health Care Administration. “Centene proactively made the state aware of a billing issue in 2021 and the state worked for years to ensure it was resolved,” Griffin said in a statement.
1. The leader is the ultimate authority If you’re not allowed to criticize your leader, even if the criticism is true, you’re probably in a cult.
2. The group suppresses skepticism If you’re only allowed to study your organization through approved sources, you’re probably in a cult.
3. The group delegitimizes former members If you can’t think of a legitimate reason for leaving your group, you’re probably in a cult.
4. The group is paranoid about the outside world If your group insists the end of the world is near, you’re probably in a cult.
5. The group relies on shame cycles If you need your group in order to feel worthy, loved, or sufficient, you’re probably in a cult.
6. The leader is above the law If you’re held to a different moral standard, specifically in regard to sex, you’re probably in a cult.
7. The group uses “thought reform” methods If your serious questions are answered with cliches, you’re probably in a cult.
8. The group is elitist If your group is the solution for all the world’s problems, you’re probably in a cult.
9. There is no financial transparency If you’re not allowed to know what the group does with their money, you’re probably in a cult.
10. The group performs secret rites If there are secret teachings or ceremonies you didn’t discover until after you joined, you’re probably in a cult.
I'll add one more:
11. Members blame others for their actions If you can't accept blame or responsibility for your actions and instead blame others, you're probably in a cult.
1. The leader is the ultimate authority If you’re not allowed to criticize your leader, even if the criticism is true, you’re probably in a cult.
For years, Democrat politicians and voters loudly insisted that Biden was an intelligent and capable leader, even in the face of insurmountable evidence that he was in severe cognitive decline. Subsequently, that facade completely disintegrated in front of the American populace at the 2024 Presidential debate.
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Originally posted by ray b:2. The group suppresses skepticism If you’re only allowed to study your organization through approved sources, you’re probably in a cult.
Democrats and liberals (including yourself) have refused to acknowledge news stories or information if it comes from a source that's ideologically different than your beliefs. (ie. Fox, Briebart, Daily Wire, etc)
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Originally posted by ray b:3. The group delegitimizes former members If you can’t think of a legitimate reason for leaving your group, you’re probably in a cult.
Democrat politicians and voters have publicly insulted and disparaged those individuals who have left the party once it shifted enough that it's positions no longer aligned with the persons beliefs. These insults range from simple derogatory statements to the most vile racism.
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Originally posted by ray b:4. The group is paranoid about the outside world If your group insists the end of the world is near, you’re probably in a cult.
For decades, Democrat politicians and voters have been promoting the myth that man made global warming, ozone depletion, peak oil, nuclear power, etc will bring about the end of humanity. Additionally, they also claim the very existence of the world is at stake every time a Republican is elected into office.
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Originally posted by ray b:5. The group relies on shame cycles If you need your group in order to feel worthy, loved, or sufficient, you’re probably in a cult.
This one is a wash as most people regardless of political affiliation find support and validation from their social circle. It's the rare individual who can go their entire life without friends, family or community.
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Originally posted by ray b:6. The leader is above the law If you’re held to a different moral standard, specifically in regard to sex, you’re probably in a cult.
Shall we talk about how the DOJ refused to investigate Biden regarding his unauthorized retention of classified documents while Senator and later as Vice-President? His unprecedented pardoning of his entire family and leading government officials for a period going back ten years?
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7. The group uses “thought reform” methods If your serious questions are answered with cliches, you’re probably in a cult.
I've found that generally speaking, one cannot hold a substantive conversation with a Democrat or liberal about societal or political matters as they inevitably resort to base insults when confronted with information that upsets their world view. These insults often are repetitions of 'racist', 'MAGAt' or your personal favorite, rRump supporter'.
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[B]Originally posted by ray b:8. The group is elitist If your group is the solution for all the world’s problems, you’re probably in a cult.
By blaming the Republican party for all of life's ills (see #4 above), Democrats routinely position themselves as the savior of the electorate. This is most obviously seen in their targeting of the black voter, telling them that the Republican candidate want's to 'put them back in chains' among other canards.
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Originally posted by ray b:9. There is no financial transparency If you’re not allowed to know what the group does with their money, you’re probably in a cult.
It's interesting that you included this in your list considering the vociferous outcry from the left demanding the DOGE be shut down and that Musk and his team are looking into areas they have no business in.
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Originally posted by ray b:10. The group performs secret rites If there are secret teachings or ceremonies you didn’t discover until after you joined, you’re probably in a cult.
I believe you're thinking of being initiated into a frat or sorority house. If not that, perhaps some reviled organization such as the KKK, infamously founded by Democrats following the Civil War.
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Originally posted by ray b:I'll add one more:
11. Members blame others for their actions If you can't accept blame or responsibility for your actions and instead blame others, you're probably in a cult.
I have yet to see a Democrat or liberal accept responsibility for their actions or that of the party they support.
I suppose we'll see if this trend continues by your response to this post and if you ignore all that's said in favor of blaming it upon Republicans.
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1. The leader is the ultimate authority If you’re not allowed to criticize your leader, even if the criticism is true, you’re probably in a cult.
2. The group suppresses skepticism If you’re only allowed to study your organization through approved sources, you’re probably in a cult.
3. The group delegitimizes former members If you can’t think of a legitimate reason for leaving your group, you’re probably in a cult.
4. The group is paranoid about the outside world If your group insists the end of the world is near, you’re probably in a cult.
5. The group relies on shame cycles If you need your group in order to feel worthy, loved, or sufficient, you’re probably in a cult.
6. The leader is above the law If you’re held to a different moral standard, specifically in regard to sex, you’re probably in a cult.
7. The group uses “thought reform” methods If your serious questions are answered with cliches, you’re probably in a cult.
8. The group is elitist If your group is the solution for all the world’s problems, you’re probably in a cult.
9. There is no financial transparency If you’re not allowed to know what the group does with their money, you’re probably in a cult.
10. The group performs secret rites If there are secret teachings or ceremonies you didn’t discover until after you joined, you’re probably in a cult.
I'll add one more:
11. Members blame others for their actions If you can't accept blame or responsibility for your actions and instead blame others, you're probably in a cult.
What a perfect summation of Washington DC's uniparty! Excellent job!
11. Members blame others for their actions If you can't accept blame or responsibility for your actions and instead blame others, you're probably in a cult. Must be the RayB cult.
1. The leader is the ultimate authority If you’re not allowed to criticize your leader, even if the criticism is true, you’re probably in a cult.
2. The group suppresses skepticism If you’re only allowed to study your organization through approved sources, you’re probably in a cult.
3. The group delegitimizes former members If you can’t think of a legitimate reason for leaving your group, you’re probably in a cult.
4. The group is paranoid about the outside world If your group insists the end of the world is near, you’re probably in a cult.
5. The group relies on shame cycles If you need your group in order to feel worthy, loved, or sufficient, you’re probably in a cult.
6. The leader is above the law If you’re held to a different moral standard, specifically in regard to sex, you’re probably in a cult.
7. The group uses “thought reform” methods If your serious questions are answered with cliches, you’re probably in a cult.
8. The group is elitist If your group is the solution for all the world’s problems, you’re probably in a cult.
9. There is no financial transparency If you’re not allowed to know what the group does with their money, you’re probably in a cult.
10. The group performs secret rites If there are secret teachings or ceremonies you didn’t discover until after you joined, you’re probably in a cult.
I'll add one more:
11. Members blame others for their actions If you can't accept blame or responsibility for your actions and instead blame others, you're probably in a cult.
I sincerely doubt anyone believes Ray came up with this much less actually typed it. Copy and Paste is your friend but, one should give credit to the author/originator.
The Justice Department has arrested a man for the February 9 fire at the Tesla Albuquerque Showroom, and the March 30 fire at the Republican Party New Mexico office.
WHEN AND WHERE DID I PRAISE ANY VANDAL OR ACTS OF ANY VANDAL ?
OR IS THIS A RANDYE LIE
'' YOU APPLAUD PUNKS WHO DRAW SWASTIKAS ON TESLAS''
NO I SAID E-OR IS A CREEP WHO SOME SAY RIGGED THE 24 VOTE
AND THE CULT LEADER TRUMP IS SCREWING UP BIG TIME
BTW E-OR MAY HAVE PAID FOR OR ALLOWED OTHERS TO DO STUFF HE DOES NOT INVENT OR CREATE ANYTHING HE EXPLOITS THE INVENTIONS OF OTHERS LIKE THE MAKERS OF THE TESLA CARS HE BOUGHT THE CORP-RAT STRUCTURE THAT WAS IN EXISTANCE HE DID NOT MAKE THE ROCKETS OR RESCUE ANY ONE JUST BOUGHT AND OWNS THE CORP THAT DID IT
You posted some cartoons and some propaganda, rumors and opinions
Since you are an insanely delusional Leftist, you don't know the difference between propaganda, rumors, opinions and objective facts,
In point of fact, you are not even remotely connected to reality.
SAID THE LOCAL CULT LEADER
ABOUT THE CULT
LOWEST EVER FIRST 100 DAYS RATING 45/55
i POST CURRENT STOCK PRICES
YOUR SIDE POST DELUSIONS HOPES DREAMS AND THE RESULTS OF PREYING ON OTHERS
THE FACE EATING LEOPARDS ARE GETTING FAT
THE WORLD WONDERS AT YOUR CULT OF DELUDED FOOLS
AN OTHERS TAKE ON THE CULT
''When responding to the MAGA posters just realize they are in the cult and will and do exhibit all the characteristics of it - criticisms are met with derision, whataboutisms and hunker in the bunker responses . Its not hard to get swept up in one, in this case the fomenting of fear towards the "enemies" is a big one. Likewise it's very difficult to get out since all your friends agree with it and to leave means being isolated from them and likely family.
Just remember when tempted to respond to our resident MAGAologists . They see it as a challenge to defend the faith.''
You can definitely tell where you start stealing other's words. They start becoming semi-coherent. Notice how few want to engage with you. Nobody talks to the idiot standing on the courthouse steps screaming insane stuff either. Just pull the plug from the computer to salvage what little mental health you have left.
Domestic Terrorism Vandalism Surge: The Left Is Attacking Teslas! Let get this thread back on track. https://www.twincities.com/...will-not-be-charged/ The Hennepin County Attorney’s Office has decided not to press charges against a state employee arrested in Minneapolis last week in connection with the vandalism of several Tesla vehicles resulting in more than $20,000 in damage.
According to the arrest report, Dylan Bryan Adams, 33, of Minneapolis was apprehended on suspicion of vandalizing six Tesla vehicles, part of a national trend following CEO Elon Musk’s controversial role in upending the federal bureaucracy at the direction of President Donald Trump.
High-profile acts of vandalism began in January 20 / Salem, Oregon Incident: Molotov cocktails thrown at Tesla dealership, suspect arrested in the Feb. 19 Incident below
Attacks on Tesla spread east across the country over the following weeks, many of the biggest acts of vandalism located in liberal cities.
Some of the Locations Of Tesla Vandalism In The United States
February 12 / Portland, Oregon Incident: Tesla vehicle spray-painted with derogatory terms
February 19 / Salem, Oregon Incident: Gunfire damaged dealership windows, suspect arrested and charged with unlawful possession of an unregistered firearm
February 26 / Dedham, Massachusetts Incident: Tesla dealership vandalized, investigation underway
March 2 / Owings Mills, Maryland Incident: Tesla dealership spray-painted with "No Musk" and swastika-like symbols
March 3 / Littleton Common, Massachusetts Incident: Tesla chargers set on fire outside shopping center
March 6 / New York, New York Incident: Tesla Cybertruck spray-painted with swastikas in Lower Manhattan, investigated as hate crime
March 6 / Brookline, Massachusetts Incident: Man arrested for placing Elon Musk-related stickers on Teslas
March 6 / Tigard, Oregon Incident: Tesla showroom damaged by gunfire, multiple incidents reported
March 7 / Loveland, Colorado Incident: Spray-painted “Nazi cars” and tossing Molotov cocktails at Tesla dealership, suspect arrested and charged with malicious destruction of property
March 7 / Charleston, South Carolina Incident: Spray-painted “F*ck Trump” and “Long Live Ukraine” and threw Molotov cocktails at a Tesla charging station, suspect arrested
March 10 / Seattle, Washington Incident: Four Cybertrucks damaged by fire, investigation ongoing
March 11 / Dedham, Massachusetts Incident: Cybertrucks spray-painted and Model S tires punctured at dealership
March 18 / Las Vegas, Nevada Incident: Multiple Tesla vehicles set on fire at dealership, suspect arrested
March 18 / San Jose, California Incident: Individual arrested for keying Tesla captured on video
March 18 / Encinitas, California Dealership and vehicles defaced with swastikas and profanity
March 21 / Syracuse, New York Incident: Tesla vandalized with message "This car supports Nazis"
March 21 / Eugene, Oregon Incident: Tesla vehicles defaced with messages like "Divest" and "Depose"
March 22 / Vista, California Incident: Tesla's side-view mirror broken while parked in driveway
March 22 / Berkeley, California Incident: Individual arrested for firing a stun gun at protesters near Tesla location
March 22 / Rock Springs, Wyoming Incident: Tesla charging stations spray-painted with swastikas
March 23 / Newtown, Pennsylvania Incident: Cybertruck vandalized outside restaurant
March 29 / Novato, California Incident: Tesla Cybertruck vandalized, tires slashed and windshield broken
You can definitely tell where you start stealing other's words. They start becoming semi-coherent. Notice how few want to engage with you. Nobody talks to the idiot standing on the courthouse steps screaming insane stuff either. Just pull the plug from the computer to salvage what little mental health you have left.
Like I said earlier in this thread, he has never had an original thought pop into his Leftist skull.
The text you are referring to is, as you correctly presumed, just more of his cut & paste from his fake pirate website, (from another lunatic leftist)
Ray, I've never seen a scenario like this in my life... whether it's on MSNBC, OANN, PBS, or any other channel.
The person with the No Fascism sign is always dressed in the most totally absurd way you can possibly imagine. It's either a full-on trans person, or the complete opposite of the spectrum, an extremely unkempt liberal woman with a butch cut, zero make-up, and very aggressive.
I've never seen anyone dressed like the person on the right, except for maybe at CPAC or the Republican Convention.
