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Millions in Social Security database are between ages of 100 and 159 by blackrams
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Elon Musk says Millions in Social Security database are between ages of 100 and 159


https://www.foxnews.com/pol...between-ages-100-159

 
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Elon Musk indicated in a post on X that millions of people listed in a Social Security database are recorded as centenarians "with the death field set to FALSE!"

"According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to FALSE! Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security," Musk posted, adding a couple of rolling on the floor laughing emojis.

His post features a chart indicating there are more than 20 million listed with ages 100 and higher, including more than 3.9 million in the 130-139 age range, more than 3.5 million in the 140-149 range and more than 1.3 million in the 150-159 range.


Another Source, haven't found any others yet.

Elon Musk’s DOGE Team Uncovers Over 25 Million People Ages 100+ in Social Security Database, Some Older Than the Constitution: “There are a Lot of Vampires Collecting Social Security”

https://x.com/elonmusk/stat...2Felon-musk-says-mil lions-social-security-database-between-ages-100-159&mx=2

Elon Musk’s DOGE team has unearthed jaw-dropping irregularity from the U.S. Social Security database.

 
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The numbers are truly mind-boggling: over 25 million Americans registered aged 100 and older, with some purportedly older than the U.S. Constitution itself.

Late Sunday night, Musk tweeted a staggering claim accompanied by a table of ages, suggesting that the Social Security Administration might be paying out benefits to “vampires.”

“According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the ‘death’ field set to FALSE. Maybe Twilight is real, and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security,” Musk quipped.


Ya Gotta Wonder If, Checks are still being sent out and cashed (by someone).
If so, someone(s) needs to go to jail.

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Nah, that can't be. Noboowdy would stoop to just burying, then continuing to cash granny's SS check...noboody's that low..are they?!
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I'm also reading that the original posting isn't factual so, I really don't know.

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REMEMBER THEY LIE

ABOUT ANYTHING

AND EVERYTHING

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Social Security head steps down
Smoke?
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Social Security head steps down
Smoke?


Yep, read that. While she gave different reasons ( they all do that) for her decision, one does have to wonder.

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I would not take to mean there are that many people receiving checks which are that old. I suspect that they have a lot of bad data in their system. What needs to follow is a deeper dive into the data which should results in the data being cleaning up or where fraud is found, prosecutions.

I would like to know what AARP's data shows. Somehow they are able to identify and send out membership flyers to everyone that hits 50. I believe they are using SS data but don't know for sure.
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Someone posted that they weren't all people getting fraudulent checks, that illegals were/are using a lot of them. I don't know how true it is, but it makes sense.
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Originally posted by Fats:

Someone posted that they weren't all people getting fraudulent checks, that illegals were/are using a lot of them. I don't know how true it is, but it makes sense.


I heard or read somewhere that our SS was robbed again to help pay for the Illegal's financial costs. You know, we've all heard or read about free phones, transportation, free medical, hotel rooms, food, clothing, free education, you know, all those things the rest of us have to buy. Oh yeah, we're also paying for the illegals to. Sorry, I don't remember where I got that information. Don't know that it's true but, if it is, someone (don't care who it is) should go directly to jail for the long course.

Actually, the costs of the Illegals came from the General Fund, you know the fund where our SS is now sent.

Yep, Ole Joe left a legacy, he most surely did!

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Originally posted by ray b:

REMEMBER THEY LIE

ABOUT ANYTHING

AND EVERYTHING


 
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“Anyone who would think that they’re at some advantage because of (Biden’s) age thinks that at their peril, because he’s very sharp,” said Nancy Pelosi, before also saying that she had worked with the president for a very long time and that Biden was “on the ball.”


 
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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said much the same thing. ““I talk to President Biden regularly. Usually several times in a week.” Schumer told reporters. “His mental acuity is great, it’s fine, it’s as good as it’s been over the years.”


 
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Vice President Kamala Harris agreed, saying “Our president is in good shape, in good health, and is ready to lead in our second term.”


 
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“Many of us spent time with @WSJ to share on the record our first-hand experiences with @POTUS, where we see his wisdom, experience, strength and strategic thinking,” Pelosi wrote.



 
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MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough declared, “The president’s very sharp. He’s on top of everything.”



 
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Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre repeatedly dismissed concerns about Biden’s fitness. She told us she can’t even keep up with the president’s schedule! She decried videos showing the decline as “cheap fakes,” and blamed everything from a cold to jetlag to explain away Biden’s behavior. She said she found it “confusing” that people would question his mental acuity



 
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“He is as sharp as ever, as I have known him to be in my engagement, in my experience with him. And I know when I walk into the Oval Office or see him on Air Force One, I have to be on top of my game,” she lied to the press after Biden’s debate debacle.


 
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John Kirby defended Biden’s mental cognition. Noting he’s spent countless hours with him, Kirby claimed he never saw Biden show any cognitive issues that were on display at the presidential debate.



 
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Vice President Kamala Harris, when asked about Biden’s capacity to serve another term, responded, “Joe Biden is a bold and vibrant leader who has shown time and time again his ability to deliver for the American people.” She also defended the president after the release of Special Counsel Robert Hur’s report labeling him “as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.”

“The way that the president’s demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts,” she said, adding that the report was “clearly politically motivated, gratuitous” and “inaccurate and inappropriate.”


 
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Bill (“I did not have sexual relations with that woman”)


 
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* Just weeks after Bill Clinton became president in 1993, all seven employees of the White House travel office were fired. They were accused of wrongdoing, including embezzlement. Only one was indicted, and a jury found him not guilty. Clinton testified under oath that she had nothing to do with the firings, which cleared the way for people loyal to the Clintons to be hired. An investigation revealed Clinton herself ordered the firings.


 
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While a U.S. senator and a candidate against Barack Obama for the presidency, Hillary Clinton in 2008 gave a speech about a trip to Bosnia while she was first lady in 1996. “I remember landing under sniper fire … we just ran with our heads down,” she said.


 
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there is the Benghazi attack of Sept. 11, 2012, in which four Americans died while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. It is known the State Department continued insisting the attack was as a result of a video produced in the United States, unflattering to the prophet Muhammad, even after officials knew the assault had nothing to do with the video.


SNIFF HAIR. DON'T CARE!

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DOGE Uncovers Budget Line Item Issue That Made $4.7 Trillion in Government Payments 'Almost Impossible' to Trace

https://www.msn.com/en-us/m...346ae1d04c0042&ei=61

 
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It could be here. It could be there. It could be almost anywhere.

So says the Department of Government Efficiency about almost $5 trillion in taxpayer money that has been spent on who-knows-what.

“The Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process). In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for -- $4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost impossible,” DOGE posted on X.

“As of Saturday, this is now a required field, increasing insight into where money is actually going. Thanks to @USTreasury for the great work,” the post said.

Musk noted that the problem should not take place going forward.

"Major improvement in Treasury payment integrity going live! This was a combined effort of @DOGE @USTreasury and @FederalReserve. Nice work by all,” he posted on X.

DOGE has been controversial because of the high-velocity impact of its analysis of government spending and recommendations to close loopholes and cut waste.

In a video posted to X last week, President Donald Trump said DOGE is an integral part of his efforts to cut government waste.

“We’re talking about trillions of dollars,” Trump said. “It will be, in the end, trillions of dollars being absolutely wasted and perhaps illegally. I would say certainly, in many cases, illegally.”

“I’m very proud of the job that this group of young people, generally young people, but very smart people have been doing,” he said. “They’re doing it at my insistence. It would be a lot easier not to do it, but we have to take some of these things apart to find the corruption, and we found tremendous corruption.”

“This is not some roving band. … This is methodical, and it is going to yield big savings,” Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said last week, according to the New York Post.

On Monday, DOGE posted that collectively, its estimated savings are a $55 billion benefit to taxpayers.

"Let's balance the budget! DOGE's total estimated savings are $55 billion, which is a combination of fraud detection/deletion, contract/lease cancellations, contract/lease renegotiations, asset sales, grant cancellations, workforce reductions, programmatic changes, and regulatory savings," it posted.

Although Musk is the public face of DOGE, a new document said others do the actual work, according to Newsweek.

Joshua Fisher, director of the Office of Administration, issued a document saying Musk is "an employee of the White House Office" and "holds a position as a non-career Special Government Employee."

"Like other senior White House advisors, Mr Musk has no actual or formal authority to make government decisions himself," he said, adding, "Mr. Musk is not the U.S. DOGE Service Administrator."


DOGE is opening the eyes of many. Some will never admit it or see the light. Sure hope DOGE is successful and determines who got all that money.

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I think it's important to understand the context of this.

Elon Musk is a programmer. When I read his original tweet, what I'm getting from it is that the database has a field which defines whether or not someone is "deceased." This field is not consistently being used, when it should be. So what I read is that the IRS's data hygiene is piss-poor. My suspicion is that the death field, is... among other variables, being used to determine someone's viability for receiving social security.

I don't see that he's actually saying anywhere that there are 100+ million people receiving social security benefits that shouldn't... he's simply saying that it's not being tracked well, and there is probably fraud (which they're getting into). All the news sites are making that leap...

I can understand WHY they're making that leap, but if you read this as a programmer... you don't come away with the same conclusion as the news sites are. He's merely making fun of how messed up the IRS database is.
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IT IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS

ONLY

REALLY 44K PEOPLE OVER AGE 100 GET SS PAYMENTS

OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN THE SYSTEM BUT NOT ON THE MONTHLY PAYMENTS
SOME ARE BECAUSE OF SURVIVORS WHO ARE PAID
OTHERS JUST NEVER GOT TAKEN OUT ON THEIR DEATHS

LOTS OF SO CALL FRAUDS NO INDICTMENTS NO COURT CASES NO PERP WALKS

RUMP INC IS A FRAUD BASED CORP-RAT LOTS OF SMOKE AND MIRRORS
NO SUBSTANCE BEHIND THE bs
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Speaking of no substance.....
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I think it's important to understand the context of this.

Elon Musk is a programmer. When I read his original tweet, what I'm getting from it is that the database has a field which defines whether or not someone is "deceased." This field is not consistently being used, when it should be. So what I read is that the IRS's data hygiene is piss-poor. My suspicion is that the death field, is... among other variables, being used to determine someone's viability for receiving social security.

I don't see that he's actually saying anywhere that there are 100+ million people receiving social security benefits that shouldn't... he's simply saying that it's not being tracked well, and there is probably fraud (which they're getting into). All the news sites are making that leap...

I can understand WHY they're making that leap, but if you read this as a programmer... you don't come away with the same conclusion as the news sites are. He's merely making fun of how messed up the IRS database is.


I agree 82-T/A [At Work].

Yet when I delved deeper into the information, it seems like we are using a 1960's+ computer system (program) at the SS and the IRS.

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Elon Musk talked about this on Joe Rogan's show. The reason why there are 20 million people over 100 years old on the Social Security rolls is those SS#s are being used by illegal aliens. They find someone that is deceased and use the deceased's SSN to work and claim welfare benefits.

It boggles my mind that Social Security and other government programs do not have fraud investigators looking into this. 20 million is an epidemic of fraud.
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

Elon Musk talked about this on Joe Rogan's show. The reason why there are 20 million people over 100 years old on the Social Security rolls is those SS#s are being used by illegal aliens. They find someone that is deceased and use the deceased's SSN to work and claim welfare benefits.

It boggles my mind that Social Security and other government programs do not have fraud investigators looking into this. 20 million is an epidemic of fraud.


This, I can believe.

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Originally posted by blackrams:


This, I can believe.

Rams



E-OR LIES AS MUCH OR MORE THEN THE RUMP

DOGE CLAIMED 5 TOP MONEY SAVING TOTAL

THE NUMBERS WERE ALL BIG LIES

NONE WERE CLOSE TO TRUE


PROBLEM IS BELIEVERS WANT TO BELIEVE
BUT YOU EAT UP THEIR LIES
NEVER CHECK
AND THEN HATE THE TRUTH WHEN IT IS DIFFERENT
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Originally posted by ray b:
E-OR LIES AS MUCH OR MORE THEN THE RUMP


Do you hate the competition ?
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Originally posted by cliffw:


Do you hate the competition ?


BETWEEN THE E-OR AND THE RUMP ?

ARE YOU PROUD OF THE BETRAYAL OF THE U
AND THE ASSKISSING OF PUTIN BY YOUR ORANGE SLIME ?
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Originally posted by ray b:
ARE YOU PROUD OF THE BETRAYAL OF THE U ?


When did we make a vow to Ukraine ?
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Originally posted by ray b:


E-OR LIES AS MUCH OR MORE THEN THE RUMP

DOGE CLAIMED 5 TOP MONEY SAVING TOTAL

THE NUMBERS WERE ALL BIG LIES

NONE WERE CLOSE TO TRUE


PROBLEM IS BELIEVERS WANT TO BELIEVE
BUT YOU EAT UP THEIR LIES
NEVER CHECK
AND THEN HATE THE TRUTH WHEN IT IS DIFFERENT


When you have proof of your allegations, come back and show us that proof.
Just in case you didn't realize it, just about all the numbers presented at this time are estimates based on what they are finding.

Try to look past that hate and wait for real numbers that are proven. I assume you are on Social Security? You know, the Ponzi Scheme that supposed to run out of money around 2035. We (you and I) may not live that long but, others will and it would be nice if others got their money back wouldn't it?

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DOGE Quietly Deletes the 5 Biggest Spending Cuts It Celebrated Last Week

The cuts, highlighted on an earlier version of the “wall of receipts” posted by Elon Musk’s team, contained mistakes that vastly inflated the amount of money saved.

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, talking about the Department of Government Efficiency at a briefing last week.Credit...Eric Lee/The New York Times
David A. FahrentholdAatish BhatiaMargot Sanger-KatzEmily BadgerEthan SingerJosh Katz

By David A. FahrentholdAatish BhatiaMargot Sanger-KatzEmily BadgerEthan Singer and Josh Katz

Feb. 25, 2025

Leer en español

Last week, Elon Musk’s government cost-slashing initiative, which he calls the Department of Government Efficiency, posted an online “wall of receipts,” celebrating how much it had saved by canceling federal contracts.

Now the organization, which is also known as the U.S. DOGE Service, has deleted all of the five biggest “savings” on that original list, after The New York Times and other media outlets pointed out they were riddled with errors.

The last of the original top five disappeared from the site in the early hours of Tuesday, even as the group claimed in its latest update that its savings to date had increased to $65 billion. The website offered no explanation for why it had removed some items or how it had arrived at the higher total. Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, sent a written statement that did not address the deletions, but provided a broader defense of the cost-cutting initiative, saying it “has already identified billions of dollars in savings.”

The “wall of receipts” is the only public ledger the organization has produced to document its work. The scale of that ledger’s errors — and the misunderstandings and poor quality control that seemed to underlie them — has raised questions about the effort’s broader work, which has led to mass firings and cutbacks across the federal government.

These were the original five largest savings on its list:

An $8 billion cut at Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The actual contract in question was worth $8 million. The mistake seemed to stem from an earlier, erroneous entry in a federal contracting database. But contracting experts said that the service should have known better: ICE’s entire budget is about $8 billion, making it implausible that one contract could be so large. The U.S. DOGE Service adjusted the figure on the site after The Times wrote about it, and said in a post on Mr. Musk’s X platform that it had “always used the correct $8M in its calculations.”

Three $655 million cuts at the U.S. Agency for International Development. This was actually a single cut that was erroneously counted three times, as first reported by CBS News. That mistake also seemed to reflect a misunderstanding of the way government contracts work; they sometimes have “ceiling values” far in excess of what will be spent. Experts said this cancellation was unlikely to produce anything close to $655 million in savings even once. Now, the site lists a much smaller savings for these three cancellations: $18 million in total.

A $232 million cut at the Social Security Administration. Here, Mr. Musk’s organization appeared to have mistakenly believed that the agency had canceled a huge information technology contract with the defense contracting giant Leidos. Instead, as reported by The Intercept, it had canceled only a tiny piece of it: a $560,000 project to let users mark their gender as “X.” The DOGE site now shows that small cut instead.

Some of the new canceled contracts added this week appear to make some of the same types of errors.

The largest savings on the latest version of its list is a $1.9 billion cut at the Treasury Department. But The Times reported last week that this contract was canceled last fall, when Joseph R. Biden Jr. was president — and when DOGE did not yet exist.
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This?

You consider this to be proof? Proof of what, an overestimate......

As I said, most of what I've seen are estimates or projections, use which ever term you like.

You've still not proven anything. BTW, copied and pasted information should include the source (for credit or blame).
That was obviously not something coming out of you.
In addition, you failed to respond or simply ignored the question I asked you about Social Security................

There's a rumor going around that all illegal aliens may be held in Miami. I'm told the Cuban population can help with translating.

Oh BTW, the "Cult" you apparently belong to lost overwhelmingly. Attacking the current administration will do you no more good (actually less) than what Biden was getting. DJT can't run again but, Biden/Harris lost big time because the majority of Americans either voted for DJT or against the Biden/Harris Administration. If, we're lucky, JD Vance will carry the torch for another 8 years.

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Great video on this subject.



The SS administration can clean up the data for a cost of $10 million. They balked at that price. It boggles my mind that they would do that. Cleaning up their data is projected to eliminate about 1% of SS fraud. That does not sound like much until you consider that is $72 billion dollars.

Additionally, other government programs and employers use the SS data. Fixing SS data will reduce fraud in other government programs.
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