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The Kamala Harris Fan Club by williegoat
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Yes, well aware of it. My grandmother had it, and several of my parents' friends have had it... it's not a hard diagnosis. There are plenty of videos (post-debate) that talk about his symptoms and how they are symptoms of early to medium stage dementia. It's far more reasonable to assume dementia, than to simply say "he's no longer sharp as a tack." Like, what does that even mean? You don't just become dumb and mentally incapacitated with age... that is not a normal part of aging. You HAVE SOMETHING that causes your mental decline... it's called dementia.

Dementia (Definition): "Dementia is a condition that affects thinking, behavior, and the ability to perform everyday tasks. It is not a specific disease but rather an umbrella term for a range of neurological conditions that worsen over time."


So, just like I thought... unable to admit anything... because it would mean you "lost."



So what about all the times Trump has forgotten things or misspoken.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1803555145311285517


Does he also have dementia? I need to see the specific grounds for your diagnosis. Why does one have dementia and the other does not. Where do you draw the line? And even more important, where do professionals in the medical profession draw the line?
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Actually, the end game for the Aristocracy/Oligarchy/Ruling class is not any derivative of Marxism, but something much older: Feudalism. We are being plunged into the Dark Ages 2.0.

Marxism is just a tool, a pathway.




So the oligarchy is going to give up the means of production to the citizens in order to establish a Feudal State?

How are they going to have enough power to forma Feudal state after they give away the means of production?
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Others define a "successful family man" as a guy who married another guy and calls itself a wife, and adopted two kids.


 
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Is he a good husband and father? Does he provide emotionally and financially for his family? I feel like we didn't address any of the points that might determine whether or not this individual is a successful family man, just focused on who he married.

Also, "itself" seems like a passive aggressive way to address anyone.


I missed your reply.

We also didn't address any of the points that might determine whether or not an individual is a good husband and or father.

Passive aggressive ? How am I supposed to know how it defines itself ? Is it a man wife ? They can feel like they are whatever they pretend to be. How 'bout they make their own labels instead of demanding to fit with historical norms ? I know why demand to fit in with historical norms. They want to appear / claim that they are normal.

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One does not need a bed to go into rehab.


 
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"Bed" is a term that means a spot at an inpatient treatment facility.

On does not need a bed to go in rehab !

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BingB:
And if a homeless person does not get a "bed" at a rehab then he is still on the streets. Outpatient treatment does not get any homeless people off the streets.


Outpatient treatment does get homeless people off the streets !
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How 'bout they make their own labels instead of demanding to fit with historical norms ?

Ever read a book called "The Bible"?

Historical norm is polygamous marriage where the bride is just an object sold by the father to the groom.

You do support "Christian tradition" don't you?

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Outpatient treatment does get homeless people off the streets !

Where do they sleep while in outpatient treatment?

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People who adopt are a blessing to this country.


What are people who abort babies ?
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And this is not true because there are not enough openings at free inpatient re-hab facilities to handle all of the homeless people with drug addiction problems. to prove this I posted a link saying that there were not enough.


Obviously you have no clue about occupancy rates.

 
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State-Funded Rehab in Florida: The facilities that are operated and funded by the state are paid for by grants, both at the federal level, as well as the state and county levels of government. Most of these sliding-scale fee rehab programs are filled with clients who are there for deferred drug or alcohol offenses. Being that these programs are used by the courts heavily, getting someone into one of these programs without a lengthy waiting list can be next to impossible.



Why are people looking for inpatient rehab ordered by the court ?

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What are people who abort babies ?

Obstetricians.

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Why are people looking for inpatient rehab ordered by the court ?



Because the criminal justice system is driven by drug use.

Most people who are stealing are stealing to pay for drugs.

Many violent crimes are the results of conflict in drug trafficking.

Many physical assaults are committed by people who are addicted to/under the influence of drugs.

Sending these people to jail will not solve the underlying problem. It is better to address their drug issues than them returning the cycle of addiction and crime when they get out.

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Obviously you have no clue about occupancy rates.


Waiting list means current 100% occupancy rate.

And I am the only one here who has posted ANYTHING about occupancy rates.

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Because the criminal justice system is driven by drug use.

Most people who are stealing are stealing to pay for drugs.

Many violent crimes are the results of conflict in drug trafficking.

Many physical assaults are committed by people who are addicted to/under the influence of drugs.

Sending these people to jail will not solve the underlying problem. It is better to address their drug issues than them returning the cycle of addiction and crime when they get out.


You could be right about the drug issue. Maybe we should let those who made the decision to party their life away until they OD? Suppliers sent to the gallows with very short trials, sentence carried out on live TV. Decisions do have consequences ya know. Castle laws should be enacted in every state allowing the true owners to protect their property and family/friends.

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Maybe we should let those who made the decision to party their life away until they OD?


What do you mean? Not send them to jail? just let them keep robbing and stealing to support their habits?

And what about people who became addicted simply because they had a weakness and could not deal with legally prescribed opioids?

Or what about people with clinical depression that leads to drug addiction?

This attitude is a perfect example of why the Republican party has been losing so much power across the country the last few years.

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What do you mean? Not send them to jail? just let them keep robbing and stealing to support their habits?

And what about people who became addicted simply because they had a weakness and could not deal with legally prescribed opioids?

Or what about people with clinical depression that leads to drug addiction?

This attitude is a perfect example of why the Republican party has been losing so much power across the country the last few years.


Interesting conclusion, I happen to be a Registered Democrat...................................

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Interesting conclusion, I happen to be a Registered Democrat...................................




But the positions you are espousing are generally considered "Republican".

I would have said the exact same thing if you were Pro-Life.

Doesn't matter which party YOU are registered to. These policies are hurting Republicans.
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But the positions you are espousing are generally considered "Republican".

I would have said the exact same thing if you were Pro-Life.

Doesn't matter which party YOU are registered to. These policies are hurting Republicans.


Just call me a Conservative. One that believes people are responsible for the decisions they make and the paths they take.


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Passive aggressive ? Is it a man wife ? They can feel like they are whatever they pretend to be. How 'bout they make their own labels instead of demanding to fit with historical norms ? I know why demand to fit in with historical norms. They want to appear / claim that they are normal.



Calling people "it" does not fit with historical (nor grammatical) norms. "It" is used exclusively to refer to objects. It is grammatically incorrect to refer to a person as "it," and directly implies that they are not a person, but an object. The word is "they," and you show that you know that several times in your reply (check the bold I added if you can't find it).

 
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"...calls itself a wife"

Also originally posted by you, in the same thread
"How am I supposed to know how it defines itself?"

Wife
That's a real head scratcher right there, but I think if you look closely you will find the answer in your own hypothetical with details you expressly included.

Also, could you expand on the "claim they are normal" part? Are there a lot of trans people regularly insisting that you personally tell them how normal they are/appear?

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Harris is repeating the basement strategy that Biden used in 2020. The Democrats have discovered that they can make their own low information voters simply by not telling them anything.

Trump/Vance's platform is prominently shown on their campaign site: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform

Harris/Walz? Do they have a platform or taken an official stance on anything? See if you can find their platform: https://kamalaharris.com/


Trump/Vance go to hostile venues and take impromptu questions from the press. Harris/Walz only do controlled events and friendly venues.
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Calling people "it" does not fit with historical (nor grammatical) norms. "It" is used exclusively to refer to objects. It is grammatically incorrect to refer to a person as "it," and directly implies that they are not a person, but an object. The word is "they," and you show that you know that several times in your reply (check the bold I added if you can't find it).




Here we have another example of a Leftist that simply cannot escape his pathological compulsion to attempt to control other people's speech.

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Just call me a Conservative. One that believes people are responsible for the decisions they make and the paths they take.


So people now chose to have mental health issues or addiction problems?

No matter what you label yourself your attitude is outdated and socirty recognizes that.

Clinically depressed? That is just a "bad decision". Don't be a wimp. Just cheer up.

Gay? Just get some conversion therapy to help you fix your "bad decision".

Addiction issues triggered by legally prescribed opioids? No treatment or help for you because you made a "bad decision".

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So people now chose to have mental health issues or addiction problems?

No matter what you label yourself your attitude is outdated and socirty recognizes that.

Clinically depressed? That is just a "bad decision". Don't be a wimp. Just cheer up.

Gay? Just get some conversion therapy to help you fix your "bad decision".

Addiction issues triggered by legally prescribed opioids? No treatment or help for you because you made a "bad decision".


Here we have the Leftist tactic of argumentum ad absurdum.

The above example being more jejune than skilled and / or the product of a mature intellect.

Rather than a "bon mot", it simply exposes his inability to reason critically.
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So people now chose to have mental health issues or addiction problems?

No matter what you label yourself your attitude is outdated and socirty recognizes that.

Clinically depressed? That is just a "bad decision". Don't be a wimp. Just cheer up.

Gay? Just get some conversion therapy to help you fix your "bad decision".

Addiction issues triggered by legally prescribed opioids? No treatment or help for you because you made a "bad decision".


OK, well everyone has a right to an opinion, everyone has one. Just know this, I haven't left the Democratic Party, they left me.
No problem providing a helping hand but, tired of being forced to provide handouts to those who won't pull their own weight. You're very welcome to open up your own wallet and provide all the handouts you can handle but, leave mine alone.

Let us know just how many homeless drug addicts you help out on your own.

My attitude is obviously outdated for anyone who has accepted WOKE and socialism as the path they think we should be own. Getting closer to Communism with every step we take (which has proven to fail repeatedly).


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Here we have the Leftist tactic of argumentum ad absurdum.

The above example being more jejune than skilled and / or the product of a mature intellect.

Rather than a "bon mot", it simply exposes his inability to reason critically.

This "mature intellect" with an ability to "reason critically" can clearly see that Republicans are being ran out of office all over the country. And your only response is to make person attacks against me.

Keep it up Randye. I am sure that will fix all the problems conservatives are having at the polls recently.

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No problem providing a helping hand but, tired of being forced to provide handouts to those who won't pull their own weight.




So no problem with hand outs for Wall Street and oils companies. Just nothing for the poor disadvantaged, right?
 
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Just know this, I haven't left the Democratic Party, they left me.




I don't know who left who, but with your attitude I am sure the Democrats are glad you are gone. They will keep winning elections while you shift to the losing side. They realize that we are all in this together.


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I don't know who left who, but with your attitude I am sure the Democrats are glad you are gone. They will keep winning elections while you shift to the losing side. They realize that we are all in this together.


"This country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in."
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There's a reason this is such a divided nation now. I can't predict who will win any election but, the path to Communism is the one we're headed down. Compare the Democratic Party of now to the one of 30 or 40 years ago. While I don't agree with either party's total platform, the Dems have us on a very slippery slope. Be sure to let us know when you start picking up the tab for all those drug addicts and those who won't pull their own weight.
Hopefully, someday you'll figure out that handouts are only good for a day and not for a lifetime unless you want to provide those handouts forever.

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Hopefully, someday you'll figure out that handouts are only good for a day and not for a lifetime unless you want to provide those handouts forever.


The main reason I want to get drug rehab treatment for people is so that we will NOT have to give them handouts forever.

Your plan is even worse because by denying them any "handouts" at all you just maintain a class of homeless criminals forever. Until you conservative realize how stupid that is you will keep getting ran out of office by more progressive types.

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"Where you from?"
"Louisiana Texas area."
"How long have you been in San Fransisco?"
"Since, uh, June. If you're going to be homeless it's pretty easy here. If we are going to be realistic, they pay you to be homeless here."
"When you said that San Fransisco pays people to be homeless, what did you mean by that? You mean that literally, yeah?"
"I mean I get $620 bucks a month, dude."
"From general assistance or? Would you...how...was that hard to get?"
"Phone call bro. A phone call. $200 in food stamps and $620 bucks cash month. Forget about it. Why wouldn't I do it."

He goes on to describe selling fentanyl to teenagers and showing them how to use it.




These dogooders create these homeless programs which attract homeless to California from all around the country. California is among the highest cost states to buy a home and live. California also has one of the highest minimum wage. The homeless have very little chance of getting a job or ever getting a home. If you were an employer who would you hire: an adult with a work history applying for a night time job, a teenager working their first job, or a homeless person who likely has a criminal history and/or drug problem?
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Here we have another example of a Leftist that simply cannot escape his pathological compulsion to attempt to control other people's speech.


1) 'Leftists' did not invent grammar nor vocabulary. I did not decide "it" was the wrong word to use, nor did any political affiliation.
2) I did not try to control his speech. I told him he used a word incorrectly. You can find many examples of grammar being corrected on this forum. Again, not an expressly leftist thing.
3) You'd have to stretch the definition of "leftist" pretty far to fit me in it, but you all have already done so with Murray Rothbard, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. You do realize "leftist" doesn't mean "person who disagrees with me," though, right?
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Here we have the Leftist tactic of argumentum ad absurdum.

The above example being more jejune than skilled and / or the product of a mature intellect.

Rather than a "bon mot", it simply exposes his inability to reason critically.


Could you expand on exactly what you think argumentum ad absurdum is and why you think it is a "Leftist" tactic?
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The main reason I want to get drug rehab treatment for people is so that we will NOT have to give them handouts forever.

Your plan is even worse because by denying them any "handouts" at all you just maintain a class of homeless criminals forever. Until you conservative realize how stupid that is you will keep getting ran out of office by more progressive types.


As I previously said, everyone has an opinion and the right to vote for the party/platform of their choice. The Socialist of this country are allowing (if not encouraging) failure by those who won't pull their own weight. I'm pretty sure you'll outlive me and will have to contend and deal with those socialist ideas. Have fun with that. As long as there is a way to escape reality and live off of someone else's efforts, there will be those who take advantage of it. Your suggested path only makes if easier on those who don't want to pull their own weight.
But, do please let us know how many you're helping pull their load. Some of life's lessons just have to learned the hard way, I guess.


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Why are people looking for inpatient rehab ordered by the court ?


 
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Because the criminal justice system is driven by drug use.

Most people who are stealing are stealing to pay for drugs.

Many violent crimes are the results of conflict in drug trafficking.


No, that's not true but par for you.
You can not find any study which says that the criminal justice system is driven by drug use. You also can not find any study that says that most people who steal, steal for drugs. Many violent crimes are the results of many things.

Tell us Mr BB, how many court cases stipulate inpatient treatment ? Are Courts stupid ? Why are they forcing people into inpatient rehab who have no interest in rehabbing and are not seeking it ? Overwhelming the facilities for those actually seeking help. The only people in the criminal justice system looking for help, are the courts. On a prayer.


Many crimes are committed by pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth.

 
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Sending these people to jail will not solve the underlying problem. It is better to address their drug issues than them returning the cycle of addiction and crime when they get out.


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Waiting list means current 100% occupancy rate.

And I am the only one here who has posted ANYTHING about occupancy rates.


What's wrong with a waiting list ? At Six Flags Over Texas (large theme park) they is a waiting list every day which ends with "Y". How long is a inpatient rehab admission wait ?

You posted nothing about occupancy rates.

What is BingB's answer to the problem he imagines ?
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Calling people "it" does not fit with historical (nor grammatical) norms. "It" is used exclusively to refer to objects. It is grammatically incorrect to refer to a person as "it," and directly implies that they are not a person, but an object. The word is "they," and you show that you know that several times in your reply


Historical norms, . It is grammatically incorrect to refer to a person as a wife if it is a man.

 
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Me personally ? No. I am sure those wanting to appear normal claim they are.
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No, that's not true but par for you.
You can not find any study which says that the criminal justice system is driven by drug use. You also can not find any study that says that most people who steal, steal for drugs. Many violent crimes are the results of many things.


Yes I can.

First of all there are over 1.1 million arrests for violation of drug laws each year, but in addition to that drug abuse is estimated to have contributed to 25 to 30 percent of income-generating crime, and alcohol abuse is estimated to have contributed to 25 to 30 percent of violent crime.

https://archives.nida.nih.g...r1-executive-summary

I am not saying that drug/alcohol abuse are the ONLY reasons for crime, but they are by far the largest single reason.

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What's wrong with a waiting list ?



It means that TA82's claim that any hmelkes person in Florida can go straight into rehab is false.
 
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You posted nothing about occupancy rates.



Waiting list means 100% current occupancy.

And I am the ONLY person who has posted anything about occupancy rates.
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So no problem with hand outs for Wall Street and oils companies. Just nothing for the poor disadvantaged, right?


As usual, Wrong Again !
Our society offers plenty of safety nets for those needing help. If I am going to have to support them for life, I want to claim them as dependents on my tax forms.
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The main reason I want to get drug rehab treatment for people is so that we will NOT have to give them handouts forever.


Yet we require them to get rehab and we still are having to give them handouts.

 
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Your plan is even worse because by denying them any "handouts" at all you just maintain a class of homeless criminals forever. Until you conservative realize how stupid that is you will keep getting ran out of office by more progressive types.


The Progressive types are the ones maintaining homeless criminals. Free ice cream for votes.

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