Crime went up everywhere, not just in liberal controlled areas. There is ZERO proof that Soros backed DAs are the cause of the problem.
We will never be able to effectively deal with the issue of crime if we can not be honest about the problem. You can't blame Soros' DAs when crime was also going up dramatically in areas completely controlled by Republicans.
BTW Crime went up 28% in Trump's last year in office, but it is dropping now under Biden. Trump did not make it go up and Biden did not make it go down. But I just wanted to post that fact for you to be aware when you hear right-wing pundits trying to blame Biden for the crime problem.
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an huge lot is the fault of people who want others to do or not do as they say
for example gays our nuts want to bash exclude from jobs limit rights of gays because they have a history of such acts most of all '' the children'' something
or smoking herbs or drinking christian led crusades create bad laws lots of victims few good results sums of the effects of belief over time lots of BS few good results
That is a very reasonable position, but it kind of misses the key point. Even the most hard core libertarians I know agree that one necessary function of government is law enforcement. That is a job for even the smallest government. So we need to be able to discuss and evaluate different policies in dealing with crime. If a governing body choses to employ a policy that fails to protect the citizens then the government deserves some blame.
You can't claim that a government body is necessary and then refuse to hold it accountable if it fails.
So we need to be able to discuss and evaluate different policies in dealing with crime. If a governing body choses to employ a policy that fails to protect the citizens then the government deserves some blame.
You can't claim that a government body is necessary and then refuse to hold it accountable if it fails.
I missed no point, can't have crime without the criminal. (Do you know what a sense of humor is?)
The article I posted is discussing the reason crime has gone up in areas with prosecutors that fail to prosecute criminals. Their policies are not protecting citizens and businesses. Are you refusing to hold the DA's accountable?
The article I posted is discussing the reason crime has gone up in areas with prosecutors that fail to prosecute criminals. Their policies are not protecting citizens and businesses. Are you refusing to hold the DA's accountable?
DA policy is not making crime go up. So why hold them responsible?
The numbers show crime going up EVERYWHERE. So if you are trying to blame liberal DAs for the rise in crime you are not going to fix anything.
the USA has more people in some kind of custody then any other nation
why people like old joe who demand CON-victions for everything mostly for black kids who are massed in prisons in huge numbers we have a criminal system that demands victims and joe wants to supply them never mind the effect on the kids or the nation they want CON-victs in mass
how many new laws about abortion have the nut-conned Gop states inflicted on their people ? aid travel for a abortion go to prison give a pill go to prison that is how the RWNJ'S ROLL ever more laws that send ever more people to ever more prisons
pig planet is a Gop goal
note no Gop programs for less prisons or less people in them EVER
well rhonda and others have declared some murders fine with them and the new laws
STAND YOUR GROUND mostly is license to kill and no longer a crime
but I bet our RWNJ are fine with them or killer cops like the 96 shots with many shots while on the GROUND UNARMED UNMOVING
BUT SOME HOW i FEAR THAT IS NOT WHAT RANDYE IS ON ABOUT HERE just a few who are not being prostituted to the FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAWS ESP IF POOR OR BLACK
Wow. I am proud of you Randye. Actual research to back up your position. I will respond when I have time to dig into these.
Maybe I am wrong about this. But even if I am it is wrong to blame all of the crime problem on lberal DA practices when crime is also going up in Republican controlled areas. If they want to adress their problems with crime they won't be able to blame liberal DAs.
Originally posted by BingB: Wow. I am proud of you Randye. Actual research to back up your position. I will respond when I have time to dig into these.
Maybe I am wrong about this. But even if I am it is wrong to blame all of the crime problem on lberal DA practices when crime is also going up in Republican controlled areas. If they want to adress their problems with crime they won't be able to blame liberal DAs.
No one is blaming all of the crime on Soros backed DA's. They contribute to the problem in their areas of jurisdiction. They are not living up to their responsibilities to society.
Criminals are ultimately responsible for their criminal acts.
Wow. I am proud of you Randye. Actual research to back up your position. I will respond when I have time to dig into these.
1. Just copying a few internet links is NOT "research". We know it is to you though, so save your BS because I'm NOT going to play a moronic game of "battling links" with you.
2. I have to respect someone and value their opinions before their "pride" means a damn to me. You're not even close.
3. Perhaps a big part of your problem on this forum is that you seem to believe that you're smarter and more academically accomplished than anyone else. You aren't. Not by a long shot.
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Originally posted by randye: 3. Perhaps a big part of your problem on this forum is that you seem to believe that you're smarter and more academically accomplished than anyone else. You aren't. Not by a long shot.
I claim that you are wrong and somehow makes me an arrogant a-hole or even mentally ill.
But when you claim that I am wrong that just makes you a great American.
You all need to step back and stop taking all this so personally. Me claiming you are wrong is no different from you claiming that I am wrong. But I don't take it personally.
I claim that you are wrong and somehow makes me an arrogant a-hole or even mentally ill.
But when you claim that I am wrong that just makes you a great American.
You all need to step back and stop taking all this so personally. Me claiming you are wrong is no different from you claiming that I am wrong. But I don't take it personally.
By your own admission, and histrionics, it is obvious that YOU are the one with the problem of taking things personally.
We get it. You've made it abundantly obvious that you are laboring under the mistaken idea that you're dealing with a bunch of knuckle dragging morons and that makes you the "big duck in a small pond".
That is evident in the arrogance of your posts and your phobia about being shown to be wrong in anything.
I'd be willing to wager that some of us here have been dealing with Lefties like you longer than you've been alive, so rest assured that you, and your rhetoric, are nothing new or unique.
The simple fact of the matter is that I find you to be a tedious, rebarbative, arrogant, Leftist contrarian with an overwhelming craving for attention. (HINT: Is it really necessary for you to comment in EVERY goddamn new thread as you have repeatedly done?)
Now, how about YOU go do some serious introspection, review your past posts on your own, and try to suss out just why you come across like you do.
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That is evident in the arrogance of your posts and your phobia about being shown to be wrong in anything.
As far as I know I am the only person here to ever acknowledge being wrong about something.
You all act like I am obsessed with being correct yet none of you have EVER admitted to being wrong about anything. You are more obsessed with being right than I am. That is why so many of you are eager to get rid of any dissent in this forum.
As far as I know I am the only person here to ever acknowledge being wrong about something.
..... none of you have EVER admitted to being wrong about anything.
You sure about that?
What are you? Twelve years old?
I've been on this forum for 18 of my 72 years on this planet and you've supposedly been here how many months?.....Six? Accordingly, your claim of "EVER" is quite the presumption.....and quite a big pile of bullshit.......which makes you WRONGagain.
You really do reason and argue like a child.
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OUR RWNJ'S do follow the pattern of accusing others of being what they the RWNJ'S are IN FACT
so when randye goes off on a tirade
and asks ''What are you? Twelve years old?''
''You really do reason and argue like a child.''
but the cult has no real arguments just insults
your cult leader is a CROOK A LYING RAPIST WHO MAKES NIXON LOOK LIKE A BOY-SCOUT
MOST OF THE ''VERY BEST PEOPLE'' he brought into his government quit in disgust many now say he was the worst leader ever he may not be sane looks to be sinking far faster and farther the joe while scamming every crazy thing from gold shoes to buybulls to a fake twitter clone for twitts in the cult BTW IT DID A DEAD CAT BOUNCE
OUR RWNJ'S do follow the pattern of accusing others of being what they the RWNJ'S are IN FACT
so when randye goes off on a tirade
and asks ''What are you? Twelve years old?''
''You really do reason and argue like a child.''
but the cult has no real arguments just insults
your cult leader is a CROOK A LYING RAPIST WHO MAKES NIXON LOOK LIKE A BOY-SCOUT
MOST OF THE ''VERY BEST PEOPLE'' he brought into his government quit in disgust many now say he was the worst leader ever he may not be sane looks to be sinking far faster and farther the joe while scamming every crazy thing from gold shoes to buybulls to a fake twitter clone for twitts in the cult BTW IT DID A DEAD CAT BOUNCE
Yep, pretty sure. You guys are pretty easy to figure out.
Got any proof top show that I am wrong? Or is this another one of those "It is true just because I say it is true" arguments that are so popular around here.
When someone posts half truths, it's easy to say they can't be proven wrong.
A more accurate name for a half truth would be a half lie.
It is pretty easy to point out a "half truth".
For example, using the term "open borders" when hundreds of thousands of people are arrested and millions of dollars of contraband is seazed at our border every year. Right-wing media does that all the time.
Originally posted by BingB: Got any proof top show that I am wrong? Or is this another one of those "It is true just because I say it is true" arguments that are so popular around here.
You are miserably wrong about Title 42 and then doubled down on stupid !
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I DID POST THE PROOF. the people who were suing too keep using Title 42 to control immigration lost their case. It was dismissed by the court. The ruling of the lower court stands. And that court ruled that Biden could not use Title 42 to control immigration now that the pandemic was over. The only way Biden could use it again would be if there was another heath emergency that justified it.
What part of this do you claim is wrong? I am beginning to believe that you do not even understand how the judicial system works in the United States.
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Originally posted by BingB: .... 1)the people who were suing too keep using Title 42 to control immigration lost their case. It was dismissed by the court. The ruling of the lower court stands. 2)And that court ruled that Biden could not use Title 42 to control immigration now that the pandemic was over. The only way Biden could use it again would be if there was another heath emergency that justified it.
1)WRONG[/COLOR[/B] and 2)WRONG[/COLOR][/B] again !
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Originally posted by BingB: What part of this do you claim is wrong? I am beginning to believe that you do not even understand how the judicial system works in the United States.
Don't think they won't come after you, the next time you say of do something they don't like.
WHO IS THEY ?
and
next time I do what EXACTLY ?
cheat at biz credit loans cheat at taxes and other gov rules cheat with others stormy and ex playmate and the rape victim ++++ unnamed cheat at fake loans for tax write offs cheat at elections with fake officials cheat and steal a ton or so of gov secrets cheat at charity claim never paid cheat with a fake U REVOLT AGAINST THE 1-6 final vote RESULTS BY RIOT
GEE I DID NOT DO any of that BS THAT he did do [on tape] or in court records
SO THEY CAN'T GET ME
but your rump did do it and now he can't admit the crimes and the minions being minions can't hold him responsible or accountable as only a cult can do
Stop and think about why they have topless crossdressers at the white house. It is not because they like them. They are using you, too.
rightwing tells do not change
people are strange get over it your sex hang ups are hanging out I long ago decided gays going to be gay why are you so upset the prosecution is over and demanding the right to bash gays back under a rock ?
I fail to see the existence of such people as any of your biz karen we do not want to be in your HOA allied church/party = cult
people are strange get over it your sex hang ups are hanging out I long ago decided gays going to be gay why are you so upset the prosecution is over and demanding the right to bash gays back under a rock ?
I fail to see the existence of such people as any of your biz karen we do not want to be in your HOA allied church/party = cult
You are the one who has to talk about sex and religion in every single post. I am saying that the government is taking advantage of people like you and will turn on you next.
read the '' Rogue in prosecutors and their effect on crime '' ?
so do you want no rump crime ever tried ?
only young people of color jammed into prison ? no old Gop members are criminals and if they did do it likely did not mean it esp no orange ones can be found guilty as that would be so unfair esp if the creep pays the price of his crimes so unfair
so very unfair to the nation not the rump lock him up
Biden has outlived his usefulness and they are starting to turn on him. Those who are paying attention know what I mean. Don't think you are immune, boy.
Where is the Democratic convention going to be this year?
