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Democrat Leadership is finally figuring out that Conservatives knew something. by blackrams
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New Poll Highlights Staggering Reversal Of Democrats On Illegal Aliens

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...9c28f58402adad&ei=36

 
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A recent poll has revealed that 75% of New York Democrats view the migrant crisis as a serious issue, with Mayor Eric Adams expressing concern that the crisis could “destroy” the city.

He urged wealthy individuals to help the city financially and called for more support from Washington, D.C.

“Let me tell you something, New Yorkers. Never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see an ending to,” Adams said.

“I don’t see an ending to this. I don’t see an ending to this. This issue will destroy New York City. Destroy New York City. We’re getting 10,000 migrants a month,” he said in September.

“This is a moment where it’s an all hands-on deck moment,” he said recently.

“The way it goes, New York goes, America goes, but I’m going to need you more than ever to support many of these organizations like PAL, Robin Hood Foundation, and others,” he added.
“A moment where our philanthropic interests must align with some of the gaps and services that we are seeing today.”

The city announced budget cuts, with $1.45 billion spent in fiscal 2023 and nearly $11 billion expected to be spent in 2024 and 2025.

Additionally, Adams has supported noncitizens voting in elections, despite legal challenges to the law.


New York isn't the only "Sanctuary City" finally seeing the light. Some things, some people just have to learn the hard way.


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Originally posted by blackrams:

New Poll Highlights Staggering Reversal Of Democrats On Illegal Aliens

New York isn't the only "Sanctuary City" finally seeing the light. Some things, some people just have to learn the hard way.



I remember having several conversations with people prior to the 2020 election, and I told these people who'd planned to vote for Biden that Democrat politicians were for Open Borders, and had planned to completely open up the border to illegals. They told me I was crazy and that they'd never do that.

I don't like being right... I really don't, because it means bad things came true.
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An Algerian immigrant in Ireland stabbed children and their teacher. The people are up in arms.

All of the news is about "radical right wing anti immigration riots in Dublin", there is hardly anything about the peaceful Islamist school stabbing that started it. Sound familiar?

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Originally posted by williegoat:

An Algerian immigrant in Ireland stabbed children and their teacher. The people are up in arms.

All of the news is about "radical right wing anti immigration riots in Dublin", there is hardly anything about the peaceful Islamist school stabbing that started it. Sound familiar?



When there were riots in France just a few month ago, every story said it started when a police officer killed a teen. The media put the cause front and center when it fits their agenda. They focus on the reaction when it does not.

Kind of like when a Republican does something wrong, that is clear and in the headline. When a Democrat does something wrong it is all about "Republicans pounce", or "Republicans take advantage" with little mention of the Democrat wrong doing. Kind of like when news outlets were finally forced to cover Hunter's laptop, they did not cover the evidence of illegal acts and corruption that was on it. It was all about how Republicans were using it to their political advantage.
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an others thoughts on the Gop nut-con mess

Dear Republicans: We Tried Your Way and It Does Not Work

'' The 1970s was a pivotal decade, and not just because it saw the end of the Vietnam War, the resignation of Nixon, and the death of both the psychedelic hippie movement and the very political (and sometimes violent) SDS. Most consequentially, the 1970s were when the modern-day Republican Party was birthed.

Prior to that, the nation had hummed along for 40 years on a top income tax bracket of 91% and a corporate income tax that topped out around 50%. Business leaders ran their companies, which were growing faster than at any time in the history of America, and avoided participating in politics.

Democrat Franklin Roosevelt and Republican Dwight Eisenhower renewed America with modern, state-of-the-art public labs, schools, and nonprofit hospitals across the nation; nearly free college, trade school, and research support; healthy small and family businesses; unions protecting a third of America’s workers so two-thirds had a living wage and benefits; and an interstate highway system, rail system, and network of new airports that transformed the nation’s commerce.

When we handed America over to Ronald Reagan in 1981 it was a brand, gleaming new country with a prosperous and thriving middle class.

And then they burned it to the ground. (my comment)

https://hartmannreport.com/...e-tried-your-way-810

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Dear Republicans: We Tried Your Way and It Does Not Work
The bottom line is that we — voluntarily or involuntarily — have now had the full GOP experience. We're no longer listening to the GOP politicians who are continuing to sell us this bullshit…
hartmannreport.com hartmannreport.com ''

we do not like RAYGUN FOR VERY GOOD REASONS LIKE HOW HE SCREWED THE WHOLE COUNTRY

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THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THE Gop

IS THEY ARE TOOO CHEAP/STINGY/GREEDY/shortsighted/nut-conned
and totally committed to'' I got my stuff so F U '' I do NOT CARE or SHARE

AND DO NOT PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY

JUST WHAT IS IN IT FOR ME NOW and nothing else
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raygun not the demo's gave the FREE PASS amnesty to them

how soon they forget [ very very selectively also ]
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Originally posted by ray b:

THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THE Gop

IS THEY ARE TOOO CHEAP/STINGY/GREEDY/shortsighted/nut-conned
and totally committed to'' I got my stuff so F U '' I do NOT CARE or SHARE

AND DO NOT PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY

JUST WHAT IS IN IT FOR ME NOW and nothing else


That must be some good stuff you're smoking.

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Wait until the Dems stop pandering to the degenerate constituents.

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That must be some good stuff you're smoking.

Rams


why are you so blind to the real Gop program

cut cut cut taxes
by
cut cut cut all useful programs

so the 1% can dodge all taxes
we see how the rump does it
who cares about pollution or warming or anything costing the 1% anything
or the grand kids as long as we got the rump
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Originally posted by Wichita:

Wait until the Dems stop pandering to the degenerate constituents.




who appointed YOU judge of degenerates

why do some have more rights to pander like myth believers
like your new speaker who is a cult follower
[an end the world cult at that see the last buybull book]
but NOT the person in the picture
who looks to be a non threat to the world
and in no position to ever threaten anything faster then a ham samwitch

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Originally posted by ray b:

THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THE Gop

IS THEY ARE TOOO CHEAP/STINGY/GREEDY/shortsighted/nut-conned
and totally committed to'' I got my stuff so F U '' I do NOT CARE or SHARE

AND DO NOT PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY

JUST WHAT IS IN IT FOR ME NOW and nothing else



Does this mean you support open immigration? Because you know, there are options for increasing the population of the United States, and providing people who are willing to work, without having open borders. We can increase immigration numbers, and we can also offer more work VISAs.
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Does this mean you support open immigration? Because you know, there are options for increasing the population of the United States, and providing people who are willing to work, without having open borders. We can increase immigration numbers, and we can also offer more work VISAs.


only for american natives with dna proof
no euro 0r asian or africans just native get a free pass
as they were here long before any others
and had the land stolen from them
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Originally posted by Wichita:
Wait until the Dems stop pandering to the degenerate constituents.


"Waiting"

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gee what happened to "Q''

we were promised a storm and child kidnap people and so much else

and like most nut-con's claims like trickle down was just GUSH UP ONLY

IT KIND OF JUST DIED WITHOUT EVEN A WHIMPER

WONDER WHO MADE A BUCK ON THAT ?
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why are you so blind to the real Gop program

cut cut cut taxes
by
cut cut cut all useful programs

so the 1% can dodge all taxes
we see how the rump does it
who cares about pollution or warming or anything costing the 1% anything
or the grand kids as long as we got the rump


Useful Programs? That must mean all those give-away vote buying bills the Dems voted in.....................
Personally, I'm all for a flat tax with no exceptions, no deductions, no loopholes, period but, there's no way that's ever going to become law.
Your and my grandchildren and further down the line will inherit the debt your Progressive representatives voted for the last three years. There's something you can brag about to them. I'm sure they'll be happy to pay for our bills. Not to mention all those new occupants we're now paying for since they crossed our southern border. Yeah, that was a wonderful Dem idea.

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Useful Programs? That must mean all those give-away vote buying bills the Dems voted in.....................
Personally, I'm all for a flat tax with no exceptions, no deductions, no loopholes, period but, there's no way that's ever going to become law.
Your and my grandchildren and further down the line will inherit the debt your Progressive representatives voted for the last three years. There's something you can brag about to them. I'm sure they'll be happy to pay for our bills. Not to mention all those new occupants we're now paying for since they crossed our southern border. Yeah, that was a wonderful Dem idea.

Rams


THE FAT 1%ers all want that Gop RIP OFF PLAN

IT IS GUSH UP PART 2
BUT EVEN MORE EVIL THEN THE RAYGUN RIP OFF TRICKLE sb TRICKED DOWN

IT IS RAPE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS = FLAT TAX SB FAT CAT TAX DODGE
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YOUR GOD BOTHERED SPEAKER

wants to end use full programs like food stamps heath care education
and regress on most rights for woman or gays
fighting an attempt to limit warming or pollution
while helping the rump dodge the laws and taxes
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I remember having several conversations with people prior to the 2020 election, and I told these people who'd planned to vote for Biden that Democrat politicians were for Open Borders, and had planned to completely open up the border to illegals. They told me I was crazy and that they'd never do that.

I don't like being right... I really don't, because it means bad things came true.


Biden didn’t completely open the border to illegal immigrants. So you weren’t right, lol.
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Biden didn’t completely open the border to illegal immigrants. So you weren’t right, lol.


How could they be opened further ?
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The borders are closed in the same way as shoplifting is illegal in California.
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How could they be opened further ?


well if the Gop could make a buck at it they would

open like raygun did with his amnesty ?

joe has a system where we know who and how many now
perfect no but better then the rumps insults and bluster ==zip about anything

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The borders are closed in the same way as shoplifting is illegal in California.


so that never happen in your state ?
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Originally posted by ray b:

raygun not the demo's gave the FREE PASS amnesty to them

how soon they forget [ very very selectively also ]


You either only know the first half of the story or forgot the second part of the deal the Democrats failed to uphold.
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Originally posted by ray b:


THE FAT 1%ers all want that Gop RIP OFF PLAN

IT IS GUSH UP PART 2
BUT EVEN MORE EVIL THEN THE RAYGUN RIP OFF TRICKLE sb TRICKED DOWN

IT IS RAPE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS = FLAT TAX SB FAT CAT TAX DODGE


So IOWs, you don't have a plan nor any answers. Gotcha.

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I like ike
and his 90%tax rates
we did fine then all of us
not just the 1%

but they did actually investigated and jailed crooks like the rump
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


You either only know the first half of the story or forgot the second part of the deal the Democrats failed to uphold.


I am sure you will try to spin blame on the other side

raygun gave all illegals a free pass if the dates were correct and they were not commies or some other things

proceed to whatabout spin as you love to do

raygun did do it

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I am sure you will try to spin blame on the other side

raygun gave all illegals a free pass if the dates were correct and they were not commies or some other things

proceed to whatabout spin as you love to do

raygun did do it



Reagan passed amnesty as an agreement to secure the border permanently. What we didn't realize is that the left would desire to continue to benefit from millions of impoverished people who would then become dependent upon the welfare state, and therefore encourage more government control. It's totally intentional. The funny thing though, is that most liberals are ignorant to facts / culture other than their own... they didn't realize that more than 90% of these Hispanics coming across are Catholic, and that's flipping out the radical leftists.
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How could they be opened further ?


“Under President Biden, the Border Patrol has arrested more people for illegally crossing the southern border into the country than in any other period since the government started keeping count in 1960.“

NYT Gift Article

It ain’t open. Trust me, I wish it were more open (and with comprehensive immigration reform). But any claim that it is, is a lie.
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Originally posted by theBDub:


“Under President Biden, the Border Patrol has arrested more people for illegally crossing the southern border into the country than in any other period since the government started keeping count in 1960.“

NYT Gift Article

It ain’t open. Trust me, I wish it were more open (and with comprehensive immigration reform). But any claim that it is, is a lie.


And yet, the Biden Administration's response to overwhelming border crossers is to ship them to locations in the US instead of sending them back across the border. There is a legal path to citizenship ya know. The Biden Admistration has bastardized the whole system. If that's not an open invitation to come, I don't know what is.
Trusting Democrats is what got us into this situation.

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Originally posted by theBDub:


“Under President Biden, the Border Patrol has arrested more people for illegally crossing the southern border into the country than in any other period since the government started keeping count in 1960.“

NYT Gift Article

It ain’t open. Trust me, I wish it were more open (and with comprehensive immigration reform). But any claim that it is, is a lie.



I think you're grossly misrepresenting this information, or you're really misunderstanding it. They are not arresting people and sending them back. They are set free, and given a court appearance that in some cases doesn't happen for another 10 years. So respectfully, either you are intentionally misrepresenting this (and are aware of it), or you are unaware and just reiterating talking points.
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“Under President Biden, the Border Patrol has arrested more people for illegally crossing the southern border into the country than in any other period since the government started keeping count in 1960.“


I thought you was working on your naivety.

Those numbers are because he has announced that illegal immigrants are encouraged to come. He gave a way illegal immigrants did not have to brave the trek on foot or Rio Grand river. He announced that they could just go to a approved port of entry and enter the USA. He counts those as arrests.
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I thought you was working on your naivety.

Those numbers are because he has announced that illegal immigrants are encouraged to come. He gave a way illegal immigrants did not have to brave the trek on foot or Rio Grand river. He announced that they could just go to a approved port of entry and enter the USA. He counts those as arrests.


I guess you support the gangs call coyote smugglers
or want to see dead bodys in the deserts
or play shoot the waders ?

or something else like fake walls that others were to pay for myths
and no idea who is getting in or where they go so cheap illegal labor

or just believe the rump lies ?
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I guess you support the gangs call coyote smugglers
or want to see dead bodys in the deserts
or play shoot the waders ?

or something else like fake walls that others were to pay for myths
and no idea who is getting in or where they go so cheap illegal labor

or just believe the rump lies ?


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Originally posted by ray b:

I guess you support the gangs call coyote smugglers
or want to see dead bodys in the deserts

That is a bizarre assertion.
You know nothing, absolutely nothing about those things.
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Those numbers are because he has announced that illegal immigrants are encouraged to come. He gave a way illegal immigrants did not have to brave the trek on foot or Rio Grand river. He announced that they could just go to a approved port of entry and enter the USA. He counts those as arrests.


 
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I guess you support the gangs call coyote smugglers
or want to see dead bodys in the deserts
or play shoot the waders ?


Why would you guess that ?
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Originally posted by williegoat:

That is a bizarre assertion.
You know nothing, absolutely nothing about those things.


met the blockade runners here sometimes herbs sometimes people
we are a border just wet so boats are needed
I lived on a boat = that world view !

I know I never did it but was asked to often to do both

why do con's think others know not about real life ?
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Originally posted by williegoat:

That is a bizarre assertion.
You know nothing, absolutely nothing about those things.


As I previously stated.

 
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I think you're grossly misrepresenting this information, or you're really misunderstanding it. They are not arresting people and sending them back. They are set free, and given a court appearance that in some cases doesn't happen for another 10 years. So respectfully, either you are intentionally misrepresenting this (and are aware of it), or you are unaware and just reiterating talking points.


This does happen, sure, but the volumes we are talking about are anything but “open border” as you call it. Tables 33 and 39 for your reference:

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/d...tatistics_fy2022.pdf

You’ll see a decline in removals, but you also see an increase in expulsions that show more net forced movement out of the country than in years prior (expulsions just began reporting with the Title 42 COVID response).

Biden flubbed hard on immigration. He presented immigration reform and it never went through. I don’t think he’s handled it well, at all. But to claim that it’s been like an open border? That’s just feeding into propaganda.
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Originally posted by ray b:

we are a border just wet so boats are needed
I lived on a boat = that world view !




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