quote Originally posted by rinselberg: [QUOTE]Many historians, those who are objective, would look back and recognize and give some credit to the fall of Rome to not only the deprivation of the society and the loss of morals, but also to the rampant homosexual behavior that was condoned by the society.

Recent remark from Mike Johnson, now the Republican House leader.


The North Hertfordshire Museum is about 40 miles north of London, and its scholars have just announced that based on the historical evidence (in their view), one of pagan Rome's emperors should no longer be regarded as cisgendered and male. These worthies of academia say that Marcus Aurelius Antoninus—known more commonly as Elagabalus—identified as female, and so the museum will change its Elagabalus exhibit to reflect that, using the pronouns "she" and "her" instead of "he" and "him."

Elagabalus landed the coveted title of Princeps (emperor) in 218 AD, but lasted just four years, falling victim to assassination in 222 AD.

Given what House Speaker Mike Johnson said not too long ago, about homosexuality and Rome, you have to wonder how this might "sit" with him... assuming he learns about it.

"Museum reclassifies Roman emperor as trans woman"
Yasmin Rufo for BBC News; November 21, 2023.
https://www.bbc.com/news/en...inment-arts-67484645

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Still beating that dead horse? I've got some sad news for you, it won't get up and let you ride it.

Rams

222 ace was 100 years before the christians were legalized

yes he was a tran nut so what

by 380 less the 60 years
one life time after christians were legal they had taken over
and banned gays and enfarsted the laws with christian sex hang ups
and 25 years after that the first part of the fall rome was sacked
a few more in-complaint christian rulers and the western empire collapsed
due to bad christian rulers low taxes on the rich the whole nut con god bothered BS
is what did them in

btw the other JC the julius caesar was bi and he set up the empire
he was called ''every woman's man and every man's woman ''
one hell of a warrior who never lost a major battle was a poof

Interesting, there are a few folks that just can't get past that "Sexual/Rome" thing. Per that side topic, I couldn't care less. Speaker Johnson is a Fiscal Conservative and just in case you miss it, I like him and his Conservative approach to governing.

Rams

quote Originally posted by blackrams: Interesting, there are a few folks that just can't get past that "Sexual/Rome" thing. Per that side topic, I couldn't care less. Speaker Johnson is a Fiscal Conservative and just in case you miss it, I like him and his Conservative approach to governing. Rams

just like rome

NUT-CON'S FAIL AT LEADERSHIP

WHEN THE TAXES ON THE RICH AND POWERFUL ARE PUT ON THE WORKERS INSTEAD
THE STATE FAILS

''his Conservative approach to governing'' IS A PROVEN TO FAIL IDEA

ONCE THE GOD BOTHERED TOOK OVER THE END WAS NEAR
THE GOD BOTHERED ARE BAD FOR A NATION
AS THEY CARE MORE ABOUT A MYTH THEN TRUTH

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quote Originally posted by blackrams: I have no idea if you have children or grandchildren but if so, why would you want to bankrupt their future?

Why would he like to help it by believing in Global Warming, trying to stop evolution ?

quote Originally posted by cliffw: Why would he like to help it by believing in Global Warming, trying to stop evolution ?

Wouldn't even try to respond to that because, I don't think like a Liberal/Progressive/Leftist.

But we all know they are systemic breeders so; I would think they would care about their children's futures.

Rams

Unless it's an unwanted kid, still in the mother's womb.....

quote Originally posted by olejoedad: Unless it's an unwanted kid, still in the mother's womb.....

why do you get a say in that ?

if your religion said you may not do that
that is your problem

if your religion said I can't do that
I am willing to stamp out your religion as a threat to my freedom

why should any MYTH affect reproductive rights ever ?

btw the PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN AND REJECTED THE TALI-BAN LIKE ABORTION LAWS
IN EVERY RESENT VOTE

PS YOU LOST

quote Originally posted by cliffw: Why would he like to help it by believing in Global Warming, trying to stop evolution ?

there is no need to BELIEVE anything you can test

Global Warming is testable in real time ether it gets hotter or it don't
ether the ice melts or it thickens

so far the anti-side is losing badly

evolution is a bit longer and requires more effort and study of bones and fossils
but DNA IS THE PROOF BUYBULL THUMPERS LOST THAT ONE BADLY

NOW BUYBULL BELIEF REQUIRES MYTH AS FACTS AND BS AS FACTS
SO ONE MUST SUSPEND THINKING WITH FAITH NOT FACTS

quote Originally posted by cliffw: Why would he like to help it by believing in Global Warming, trying to stop evolution?

Evolution does not require that humans create a radically warmer climate for the planet—that's ridiculous.

Human societies have evolved in ways that are bringing about a radically warmer climate.

Human societies have the potential to evolve even further, by finding ways to satisfy human needs and desires without bringing about a radically warmer climate.

What cliffw seems to be saying is that the pursuit of Climate Mitigation, by reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, is somehow "wrong" or "illogical," because it would offend the ghost of Charles Darwin. The ghost of Charles Darwin wants us to evolve by adapting ourselves to higher sea levels and all the other aspects of a radically warmer climate, and the ghost of Charles Darwin is offended by the idea that we would look for alternatives, via the pursuit of Climate Mitigation.

That seems to be what cliffw is saying with his phrase "trying to stop evolution." (I don't know what else to make of it.)

That's as ridiculous as it would be to say that the pursuit of Medicine and Public Health is wrong or illogical (and offensive to the ghost of Charles Darwin) because it works against the possibility that a virus, or a bacteria, or some other microscopic pathogen could evolve biologically in a way that would bring about a plague or pandemic of deadly human illness that would relegate our species to the long list of other species that have become extinct. The ghost of Charles Darwin would be offended if we humans used Medicine and Public Health to try to prevent that evolutionary possibility—which would bring about our extinction—from becoming a reality.

That remark from cliffw is just a real "head scratcher."

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We seem to have drifted way off topic. Regardless, I still like Fiscally Conservative Speaker Johnson.

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Rams
Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. .
You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.