Karl Lueger was a famously anti-Jewish figure in Austria's history. The mayor of Vienna from 1897 until 1910, he was lauded by Adolf Hitler in the pages of Mein Kampf.
This report explains why a controversial statue of Karl Lueger in the center of Vienna is going to be tilted so that it looks off balance, as if it's about to topple over and fall to the ground.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: "Vienna finds off-kilter solution to controversy over statue of antisemitic mayor"
This is the second time today I have to ask you, what the hell does that mean. The true definition must have been re-created. I know not what antisemitic means.
I do not fault you 'cause that word is bantered around often. Do you know even one semitic, present or history ? There must be more than one. Why are they not called semitics ?
Antisemitic is a Saul Alynski slur. Are you a semitic or an antisemitic ?
I understand "antisemite" or "anti-Semite" as a traditional and somewhat indirect way of saying "anti-Jewish".
In my remarks, I said both "anti-Jewish" and "antisemite" (and "anti-Semite"). I mark no differences in meaning among the common usages of these terms.
By using "anti-Semite" to titularize this thread, I am conveying how the report was set up when it was published on CNN.
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I understand "antisemite" or "anti-Semite" as a traditional and somewhat indirect way of saying "anti-Jewish".
In my remarks, I said both "anti-Jewish" and "antisemite" (and "anti-Semite"). I mark no differences in meaning among the common usages of these terms.
By using "anti-Semite" to titularize this thread, I am conveying how the report was set up when it was published on CNN.
I favor anti-zionist if one is in opposition to the jewish states actions and the some how un-used anti-jewish if like hitler one hates jews for being
as there are far more non jews who are semtic then jews about 10 to 1
he was my favorite family member a card player [pro gambler] minor lansky mob acc married my dads little sister I can win at gin thanks to my uncle bill who never had a job I knew of other then cards and horses but always had a new t-bird
Competition for the Permanent Artistic Contextualization of the Dr. Karl Lueger Monument Winning Design Proposal: Schieflage (Karl Lueger 3,5°), which translates as Imbalance (Karl Lueger 3,5°).
Statement from the committee that selected the winning proposal:
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"Thirteen years ago, the University of Applied Arts Vienna initiated the questioning of the Lueger-Monument at the Stubentor with a symposium and an open competition. Klemens Wihlidal's proposal emerged as the winner from this competition. Since then, there have been lively discussions about the Lueger-Monument and the square in politics and civil society. Out of these debates emerged the competition for the artistic contextualization of the monument, which was launched by the City of Vienna.
After extensive discussions of the submitted competition entries, the jury came to the conclusion that this project proposal by Klemens Wihlidal has lost none of its relevance: his design transforms the monument into a disturbance in public space. The minimal formal irritation proves to be a strong sign in the city. The artistic proposal raises questions and keeps them open.
The sculpture is tilted by 3.5° and visually loses its balance. The inclination breaks the claim of monumentality. This visual punch line opens up even without prior information and leads to a continuation of the debates.
Klemens Wihlidal's project shows how a public debate conducted over years leads to a heightened awareness in civil society. The transformation of the monument undermines the affirmative view of Lueger's politics of exclusion and his racist and anti-Semitic hate speech. The 'skew' changes perspectives on the past and present."
Statement from Klemens Wihlidal:
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"With my design, I do not want to change the existing monument, but the view and perspective on it. With the 'minimal' intervention of tilting the statue and pedestal 3.5° to the right from the viewer's perspective, the venerability is to be broken and the sincerity questioned. In doing so, I want to trigger an irritation, or even more, a moment of uncertainty that may only become noticeable upon a second look.
The tilted position is also reminiscent of a sinking ship or evokes a sense of transience and impermanence, as if one has to watch the monument just about to topple over, or at least reckon that it won't stand for much longer."
Competition for the Permanent Artistic Contextualization of the Dr. Karl Lueger Monument Winning Design Proposal: Schieflage (Karl Lueger 3,5°), which translates as Imbalance (Karl Lueger 3,5°).
This is a scale model... it's a photograph of a scale model... actually it's a digital image of a photograph of a scale model...
Ahem. As I was saying, this is a scale model from the Winning Design Proposal. It was provided to help the judges to visualize the impact of modifying the base of the statue to tilt the statue itself and shift it by a displacement of 3.5° (three and a half degrees) from vertical.
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