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Do You Have Full Faith And Credit In America's Finacial Ability ? by cliffw
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Bad Boys, Bad Boys,
What 'cha gonna do
When the note comes due ?

It is the annual debt limit battle to yet again, increase the debt limit.

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The Dumbs are heavily playing the "doom and gloom" card.

Increasing the debt limit, is code to spend more money for more debt, and raise taxes. "We the people" pay for the debt.

Gooberment has raised the debt every time the issue needs to be addressed. They say we gotta pay our bills. So, we raise the debt limit and add more debt, . We never pay down the debt, .

What's the best that could happen ?
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gee we would have to have tax laws that actually tax the rump class of scammers

that would require tax laws that favor workers not the ownership class

and yes the Gop does plan to screw up the nation over this BS

raise the taxes or the debt do not cut aid to the poor
we could cut gov aid to red states esp cops and other lawdogs
or just tax real wealth not income or expenses [sales tax]

or boost the tax rate up to about the 50% point peak of the LOL curve
and not let jerks like the rump dodge taxes year after year

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are you kind?

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Originally posted by ray b:
-- raise the taxes or the debt do not cut aid to the poor
we could cut gov aid to red states esp cops and other lawdogs


We could, should, start spending less money. If we can not afford our debt, we do not need to bring in illegal aliens and pay for their food, housing, cell phones ...

Red States should not get government aid. They are a government. Blue States, ..., what's up with them ? Always begging for more Federal aid.
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who gets more fed aid red or blue states

ap said https://apnews.com/article/...440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c

''Mississippi received $2.13 for every tax dollar the state sent to Washington in 2015, according to the Rockefeller study. West Virginia received $2.07, Kentucky got $1.90 and South Carolina got $1.71.

Meanwhile, New Jersey received 74 cents in federal spending for tax every dollar the state sent to Washington. New York received 81 cents, Connecticut received 82 cents and Massachusetts received 83 cents.''

https://wallethub.com/edu/s...eral-government/2700


https://smartasset.com/data...eral-government-2022

every honest non con sites say red states get aid blue pay for it
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I have faith in the responsible and productive citizens of this country. Those who are gainfully employed, use debt responsibly, and invest in their communities. They are the drivers of the robust economy we have historically enjoyed.

I have no faith in the current Administration, their 'experts' who advise them, or nor the Legislators who follow their Party mantra in lockstep.

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And now for the truth.

The left says, "One person, one vote", well let's look at it on a per capita basis.

Federal Aid per capita by state: https://wisevoter.com/state...tracker_introduction



Welfare recipients by state: https://wisevoter.com/state...recipients-by-state/




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Now, of course states like Cal and NY pay a lot in to the Fed Budget, that is where a lot of "rich people" live.

The left thinks "rich people" don't pay there share, but then claim Cal and NY contribute the most to the feds.

States like Miss and La get a lot of federal money. They have a lot of poverty. The left thinks those states get too much money.

So, in conclusion, the left thinks "poor people" get too much assistance and "rich people" pay too much.

So, which is it?
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Another fairy tail from the Sunshine State, popped like a Chinese balloon.
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Now, another important factor is where that federal money goes. Arizona has a lot of federal land; National Parks, National Forests and Indian Reservations. Much of the fed money that goes into our state is spend on and by the feds. I'm sure each state has similarly unique circumstances.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

Now, of course states like Cal and NY pay a lot in to the Fed Budget, that is where a lot of "rich people" live.

The left thinks "rich people" don't pay there share, but then claim Cal and NY contribute the most to the feds.

States like Miss and La get a lot of federal money. They have a lot of poverty. The left thinks those states get too much money.

So, in conclusion, the left thinks "poor people" get too much assistance and "rich people" pay too much.

So, which is it?


spinning that hard makes one dizzy
and also effects your thinking
try more facts and far less spin

and you have no clue how the left thinks

we saw the rump returns so the rich are over taxed lie is BUSTED
we hear bill gates and warren buffet say the taxes on the super rich are far too low
tax the wealth of the rich and balance the budget it is not hard

btw note the red states are poor and poorly run there is a direct link
poor gov = poor people
Gop creates poor states
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Originally posted by williegoat:

Another fairy tail from the Sunshine State, popped like a Chinese balloon.


your side pushes the buybull into gov where it does NOT belong
fairys tell tales they do not have tails we are tired of the sky daddy BS

some how even after seeing the rump tax returns where he paid zip or less
they still claim no tax hikes ever all is normal just cut spending
no not on cops or prisons or army/navy/hairforce
poor people get far too much said the Gop over and over
not low no tax rates on millions it is those poor people
the BIG LIE over and over

fact is the taxes are far to dodged by the rich
and taxes should go up on the 1% every time inflation goes up
do not pay them more interest [who owns the banks ?]
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Originally posted by ray b:


spinning that hard makes one dizzy
and also effects your thinking
try more facts and far less spin

and you have no clue how the left thinks

we saw the rump returns so the rich are over taxed lie is BUSTED
we hear bill gates and warren buffet say the taxes on the super rich are far too low
tax the wealth of the rich and balance the budget it is not hard

btw note the red states are poor and poorly run there is a direct link
poor gov = poor people
Gop creates poor states


I am very surprised you are able to stand up.

I am pretty sure the Left doesn't think, unless the thought process is geared toward scheming ways to weaken this country and it's morals.
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Ah. The only options are "be like Wichita"—or "Communism".

Who knew?
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Ah. The only options are "be like Wichita"—or "Communism".

Who knew?

How intolerant! You need to accept the ideologically fluid for what they are(n't).



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why can't the rump's of the nation be taxed at a non zero rate ?

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Originally posted by ray b:

why can't the rump's of the nation be taxed at a non zero rate ?

You never actually listened to this song, did you?

"Tax the rich, feed the poor
'Til there are no rich no more"





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Originally posted by williegoat:

You never actually listened to this song, did you?

"Tax the rich, feed the poor
'Til there are no rich no more"






rock singers are not a great tax advice fountain

there being no rich is not very likely ever

so why the Gop aversion to taxing the people with the money ?
why not bill the rump for frauds
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Even as an idealistic 16 year old, I understood.

"Tax the rich, feed the poor
'Til there are no rich no more"


Then who will feed them?

"I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you"


Who do you think he is talking to?
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For those who weren't alive back then, Alvin Lee is saying:

"Man, there's some messed up stuff going on. People are acting crazy"

Then, he asks God for advice.

He is not giving any advice, he is praying for guidance.
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Originally posted by ray b:
rock singers are not a great tax advice fountain


News flash ! You are a worse tax advice fountain.

 
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so why the Gop aversion to taxing the people with the money ?


Every one is taxed when they make money !
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Every one is taxed when they make money !


BS you need to learn we have the best laws money can buy
and pigs like rump buy the laws for them NOT you

go look at the rumps tax returns
learn the facts

we need to tax the rich to fight inflation not raise interest rates
the rich own the banks and get paid the higher interest rates
so the rich get richer every one else pays more and inflation goes up up up

the rich get richer by dodging taxes not by paying them
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