“Is property destruction violence?” He asked. “To some people, it certainly is. But, you know, this idea that breaking windows or other acts of property destruction are the same as actual violence against humans, it’s kind of a dangerous and slippery concept.”
Well you break my window there is going to be an incident.
One person throwing a rock in a random direction is mischief, two people throwing rocks is a conspiracy. Three or more and its a mob and should be managed as such. Security should be in place to manage and keep things from escalating.
There will always be those that will use any excuse to cause chaos and damage. I do wish that the Jan 6th march would have stayed peaceful but did anyone really expect it to not have some participants doing some **** they shouldn't
But you can not hold up Jan 6th against the riots that took place and were called mostly peaceful protest.
"You keep using these words ‘violent, violent, violent, violent'… The only acts of violence against people that I saw were actually police tackling protesters,"
The left wants you to believe that Atlanta was peaceful while DC was a “Deadly insurrection”.
The left wants you to believe that the police should not have returned fire when a criminal was trying to kill them, but the killing of the unarmed woman in DC was justified.
The left wants you to believe that Trump should go to jail while Biden did nothing wrong.
The left wants you to believe that Trump colluded with Russia, but the truth is that the guy who was investigating Trump was just arrested for colluding with Russia.
I don’t understand how adults can be so mislead. The left is a cult. There is no other explanation.
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The left wants you to believe that Atlanta was peaceful while DC was a “Deadly insurrection”.
The left wants you to believe that the police should not have returned fire when a criminal was trying to kill them, but the killing of the unarmed woman in DC was justified.
The left wants you to believe that Trump should go to jail while Biden did nothing wrong.
The left wants you to believe that Trump colluded with Russia, but the truth is that the guy who was investigating Trump was just arrested for colluding with Russia.
I don’t understand how adults can be so mislead. The left is a cult. There is no other explanation.
The left? This David Peisner is the left? The left is David Peisner?
At the very beginning of the 20th century, the elected mayor of Vienna was Dr. Karl Lueger, a man known, among other things, for his anti-semitism.
"I decide who is a Jew." That's a statement that's famously attributed to him. I don't want to immerse myself in the creation of a major opus, but "I decide who is a Jew" was an assertion that was fraught with cynicism and danger, as events in Europe were going to confirm in the worst possible way, before the midpoint of the 20th century.
These remarks about "the left" strike me as of the same kind.
Who or what does this David Peisner speak for, or represent? Who or what that's of even the smallest importance?
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This is how the leftist media does their reporting.
No. This is not how the so-called "leftist media" does their reporting.
I don't know exactly what distinction exists in certain forum members' minds between "media" and "leftist media", but I can construe from this remark that "VICE" is part of the leftist media as it's pictured within some other forum member's imagination.
It's a photograph that is not particularly puzzling or out of place within the context where it appears, but it's been given an oddly worded caption by someone who was involved in preparing the article for publication at VICE. Perhaps English is not that person's native language.
This photograph is one of 10 photographs that accompany the text of the article in VICE. All 10 photographs are captioned with a descriptive sentence and a photographer's credit or attribution. Of the 10 photographs, only this one photograph of a large caliber round has been captioned with such an idiosyncratic and oddly-worded sentence. All of the other photographs—9 other photographs in all—are captioned with brief descriptive sentences that are neither idiosyncratic or oddly-worded in the context of this kind of article.
"Do the math." Or the statistics. Singling out this one oddly captioned photograph from a sample size of 10 and ignoring the 9 other photos and captions is not even fairly representative of this one particular article in VICE, much less representative of VICE on the whole, or of the "leftist media" of which VICE is (presumably) just one example.
If this were a batting average for a Major League Baseball player, it would be recorded as ".100" and—this will not surprise or puzzle many forum members—it's a woeful performance for a position player or any prospect who hopes to become a position player, with the expectation of batting on a regular and recurring basis during Regular Season games. It's such an abysmally poor performance, it's even below the Mendoza Line. (That might puzzle any number of other forum members.)
Contrast this reality with the breezy overconfidence (bordering on total mindlessness) and the utterly cavalier insouciance of the obviously ridiculous assertion of "This is how the leftist [sic] media does their reporting."
This is just as childish as it would have been, on the part of some forum member, were they to have posted a photograph of a "rando" or nitwit who set fire to himself, reportedly because he was concerned about climate change, and then to have described said moron (presumably, for the forum's edification) as fairly representative of the "left", or of people who share concerns (or even just interest) in the possible connections between human activities around the world and the earth's prevailing climate and climatological trends and forecasts; i.e., the "global warming" thing.
This is just as pitifully uninformed as someone (a hypothetical, of course) posting a photograph of the notorious pro-Nazi rally of 1938 at Madison Square Garden in New York City, trying to pass that off (for the forum's edification) with the single descriptive word "leftists". As if there were no other comparable terms that make at least as much, if not considerably more sense in that context. If it would be a misleading oversimplification to caption such a photograph as "a gathering of right-wingers" or "reactionaries" or "anti-leftists", then how would it be any less misleading or more on point to caption such a photograph (in effect) as "a gathering of leftists"..?
This is just as ridiculous as so many of the shallow, sophomoric, banal and distinctly "middle school" memes and cartoons that could have emerged on this forum, in lieu of any actual attempt at a thoughtful observation or talking point, about the $80 billion in IRS funding that is part of the Inflation Reduction Act that was passed by Congress and signed into law by the President in 2022.
And what if—if anyone can imagine such a thing—a meme were to appear on this forum, of an ice cube floating in a measuring cup partly full of water that... well, don't even get me started.
Just hypotheticals, of course. As if such posts have ever actually appeared on this forum. Isn't it strange, how these "hypotheticals" come to my imagination? The details. The singularities, as it were. As if these were posts that I imagined seeing on this forum in a nighttime dream. One of those especially vivid dreams that people are known to awake from, and for a moment, before they are fully awake, the dreamscape seems more real to them than the world that they are awakening to.
Is this a shared experience? These imaginings. What say you, other forum members? IMWTK.
"Inside El Chapo’s Son’s House After a Deadly Gunfight"
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An early morning raid by the Mexican military led to the capture of El Chapo’s son Ovidio Guzmán before he could make it to his escape tunnel.
At that notoriously "leftist" media monstrosity VICE, the caption for this photograph has been revised.
Before it was: A HIGH-CALIBER BULLET POKED AT ONE OF THE GATES OUTSIDE OVIDIO GUZMAN'S HOUSE IN JESÚS MARÍA, SINALOA. (PHOTO: JOSÉ BETANZOS/VICE WORLD NEWS)
Now the caption has been revised: A BULLET LEFT INSIDE A BULLET HOLE IN THE GATES OUTSIDE OVIDIO GUZMÁN’S HOUSE IN JESÚS MARÍA, SINALOA. (PHOTO: JOSÉ BETANZOS/VICE WORLD NEWS)
1.) High School history teacher. 2.) High school student that wears eye makeup and is gender confused 3.) High powered lawyer from backwoods Tennessee 4.) Highly sought after educator that Googles everything 5.) Highly despised obscure Forum troll
Originally posted by cliffw: SCOTUS told you all legal challenges were denied ?
No. The judicial system told me. Dozens of lawsuits were filed. All were ruled on.
If you want to claim that there was a legitimate challenge that was never ruled on then tell us all what it was. BTW who told you that there were challenges that had not been litigated? what is your source of information?
I am no legal scholar, but can the vote of congress be challenged in a court? Because that is how these challenges work. They are voted on by Congress. Can a court overturn a vote of congress?
Maybe the guy who claims to have a law degree can explain.
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Not a lawyer myself, but the Supreme Court has the power to declare legislation unconstitutional, effectively overturning it.
That would require a challenge to the legitimacy of the "process" instead of a challenge to which side won the vote. For example, in this case it would seem that the wronged legislators would have standing to challenge the procedure by which their challenges were dealt with easier than they could challenge the outcome of the vote.
A criminal can get convicted by a jury but win an appeal based on a problem with the "procedure" of the trial that violated his rights. It is pretty much impossible to win an appeal where judges will overturn the decision of as jury. But this guy seems to be arguing the opposite with the 1-6 vote. He claims that there was a problem with the procedure (they were not allowed to vote on challenges), but they don't have standing to challenge that, but if they had been given their right to vote and lost then they would have had standing to take the case to the courts. It does not make any sense.
This is why it is impossible to understand this propaganda. They never explain what they are talking about. They say "We were robbed!" but when you ask "How?" they just reply "It was rigged. The other side cheated." And when you ask again "How?" they say "You wouldn't understand because you believe everything the mainstream media tells you!"
They can never answer the "How?"
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Originally posted by BingB: That would require a challenge to the legitimacy of the "process" instead of a challenge to which side won the vote.
This is why it is impossible to understand this propaganda. They never explain what they are talking about. They say "We were robbed!" but when you ask "How?" they just reply "It was rigged. The other side cheated." And when you ask again "How?" they say "You wouldn't understand because you believe everything the mainstream media tells you!"
IF THE COMMIES HAD DONE 1% OF THE 1-6 RIOT YOU WOULD WANT LIFE SENTENCES THAT EVERY PERSON WHO B&E OUR CAPITAL SHOULD HAVE GOT RUMP AND THE OTHER LEADERS ALSO WINDOW CHIC EARNED BY HER DEATH FOR ALL HER CO-CONSPIRATORS BY LAW THAT THE Gop CALLS DOWN ON GHETTO KIDS BUT DODGES THEMSELFS
