I loved this band, still do. So many good songs with deeper meaning that my young mind at the time could understand. As I grew older the meaning has more of a point.
Some of our brothers and sisters don't realize what they are willingly giving up. The comment "shouldn't we be looking for more offshore purchases to help bring prices down" This is how lost people are. They would rather spend less money more often than buy a better product made here in the states. They would support slave labor as long as they didn't have to see it. So many blind eyes.
I don't listen to newer music, is there even a voice out there any more? So much has changed but its the same bs agenda just better at reaching the sheep.
Maybe in '69, but I'm sure we're all eternally grateful to LBJ for getting us armpit-deep in 'Nam, several years before that. (That whole Tonkin Gulf thing.) And then there was the whole welfare state agenda. ("We'll have N*****s voting Democrat for years". ) What a prince of a human being.
I think we are all aware of how Ray B spent the 60s Not that there is anything wrong with that, you do you. Just don't ask me to do you. (yes I read it as I wrote it and it sounded funny so I left it, I do not want to do Ray B, not that there is anything wrong with that if it your thing. I just do not wish to participate.)Click to show
Oh and before I forget, **** you that's whyClick to show
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You are correct, 1969. The sixties were all peaches and cream until Nixon came along in 1969 and ruined everything.
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some of us never betrayed the ideals we had
one of which was TRUTH
Correct, again. We still have contempt for corruption, incompetence, greed and dishonesty, just as we did over 50 years ago. We still love the USA and the values that made her the greatest nation the world has ever seen.
My values haven't changed, but my I am no longer as naive and ignorant as I was as a young man.
I still believe in God, that truth is better than deception, war isn't right, and I don't trust the people running the government. I still believe that the Constitution is a masterful work of very intelligent and thoughtful men, and is the best form of government yet devised. I still believe that you get what you work for, no one owes me anything and I need to have a voice to be heard. I have learned that one learns more by listening than talking, and those that speak infrequently should be listened to. I have learned that evil takes many forms, most of those forms are very attractive and seductive, but will invariably lead to ruination. I have learned that money isn't everything, and that money is the root of all evil. I have learned that being drunk, high or buzzed is no way to go through life. And the love of a good woman is irreplaceable, and hard to find.
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My values haven't changed, but my I am no longer as naive and ignorant as I was as a young man.
I still believe in God, that truth is better than deception, war isn't right, and I don't trust the people running the government. I still believe that the Constitution is a masterful work of very intelligent and thoughtful men, and is the best form of government yet devised. I still believe that you get what you work for, no one owes me anything and I need to have a voice to be heard. I have learned that one learns more by listening than talking, and those that speak infrequently should be listened to. I have learned that evil takes many forms, most of those forms are very attractive and seductive, but will invariably lead to ruination. I have learned that money isn't everything, and that money is the root of all evil. I have learned that being drunk, high or buzzed is no way to go through life. And the love of a good woman is irreplaceable, and hard to find.
Could not have said it better myself, nor could many others, I think.
So, if a hypothetical person were to support Goldwater in 1964, then later support Obama and Biden, would that demonstrate consistent values?
I spent time in a pool a rather big pool one of the worlds biggest a full 100 not feet not yards but meters in what was a major hotel now a VA hospital about a mile from the house year was now 1965 guess who started to show up there
you think wounded vets supported the war ? well maybe 1 in ten did the other 9 were radical anti war protesters and civil rights voting rights activists also the first hippys I met were vets
so no anyones values change my values sure were
btw much later barry came to believe the new right christian's were very WRONG
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More Stone on LBJ Blood, Money & Power Sure, a monster, seeking power and war. Today, the repetition of that ambition is again walking us toward global nuclear conflict with the Russians, Putin threatening preemptive strikes, Biden_Joe befuddled, stuttering. War !
I spent time in a pool a rather big pool one of the worlds biggest a full 100 not feet not yards but meters in what was a major hotel now a VA hospital about a mile from the house year was now 1965 guess who started to show up there
you think wounded vets supported the war ? well maybe 1 in ten did the other 9 were radical anti war protesters and civil rights voting rights activists also the first hippys I met were vets
so no anyones values change my values sure were
btw much later barry came to believe the new right christian's were very WRONG
And this is why crusades exist....
Shut the **** up, or get shot with an arrow and your head cut off with a sword in the year 768...
Whatever.
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I spent time in a pool a rather big pool one of the worlds biggest
I spent some time in a large pool, you know its full of people. Just people soup. They poop and pee in the pool because its so large no one will notice.
I don't swim in any pools anymore unless I own or know the owner. Figure it out.
I think we are all aware of how Ray B spent the 60s Not that there is anything wrong with that, you do you. Just don't ask me to do you. (yes I read it as I wrote it and it sounded funny so I left it, I do not want to do Ray B, not that there is anything wrong with that if it your thing. I just do not wish to participate.)Click to show
Oh and before I forget, **** you that's whyClick to show
I just want you to know, I'm really let down by your "Click to Show" embeds on this post... your Click to Show standard is going down.
I spent some time in a large pool, you know its full of people. Just people soup. They poop and pee in the pool because its so large no one will notice.
I don't swim in any pools anymore unless I own or know the owner. Figure it out.
actually very very few were in shape to use the pool typical my buddys 3 to 6 of us maybe 1 vet max was 3 once in the pool that huge pool with a life guard was mostly ours we could get in because my buddys mom was the head of the volunteers there it had a small PX we met the vets there mostly where the girls were [ volunteers]
Originally posted by Hudini: Geez, give it a rest. The left used to stand for free speech and inclusion. Now it's cancel culture and justice warriors and safe spaces.
I think that's seeing just one side of the "cancel culture" phenomenon. The Left side. What about the cancel culture that's being pushed by the Right?
"American free speech enters uncharted territory" Zachary B. Wolf for CNN; as reported by ABC local affiliate and Wichita, Kansas-based KAKE; May 14, 2022. https://www.kake.com/story/...-uncharted-territory
I think that's seeing just one side of the "cancel culture" phenomenon. The Left side. What about the cancel culture that's being pushed by the Right?
"American free speech enters uncharted territory" Zachary B. Wolf for CNN; as reported by ABC local affiliate and Wichita, Kansas-based KAKE; May 14, 2022. https://www.kake.com/story/...-uncharted-territory
Read-o-Meter: 4+ minutes.
Includes embedded Internet page links.
From your linked article:
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Republicans are looking to allow lawsuits against social media companies over free speech in Texas, but then are applauding the removal of books they don't like in school districts...
Children do not have the same rights as adults, the parents have the right to restrict that to which their child has access. For example, children are forbidden alcohol and tobacco.
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...and treating the leak of a draft opinion from the Supreme Court on abortion as a major breach.
The first amendment guarantees your right to express your opinions, but it does not give you the right to publish the private or confidential words of others. For example, if you are a juror, you are forbidden from disclosing the deliberations during the trial.
The article is fundamentally flawed. Either the author is intentionally misleading his readers, or he does not understand the principles he is trying to explain.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The sky is blue and the sun will rise in the morning.
Republicans are quick to label social backlash at controversial statements as "cancel culture," but they were happy to pass a law in Florida literally canceling Disney's special government status. It was retribution for the company's decision to publicly disagree with the Parental Rights in Education law, which critics call the "Don't Say Gay" law.
My objection here is obvious. No private corporation or citizen has a right to special government status.
I see a kind of "cancel culture" right here on this forum. Along the lines of "If you say anything I don't like, or have established a habit of saying things that I don't like, I am going to berate you with every conspicuously crude vulgarity that I can think of, short of some explicit 'four letter word' that could (in theory) provoke moderator action against me."
That's not something that's coming exclusively from the "Left" on this forum.
There's probably articles published online that go in the same direction as that one that I posted from KAKE, but make a stronger case.
I've only got so much life to waste. I didn't look very hard.
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I see a kind of "cancel culture" right here on this forum. Along the lines of "If you say anything I don't like, or have established a habit of saying things that I don't like, I am going to berate you with every conspicuously coarse vulgarity that I can think of, short of some explicit "four letter word" that could (in theory) provoke moderator action against me."
There is only one man who has the power to "cancel" anything on this forum and he exercised that power today. Anything else said by anyone else is simply (free) speech.
Originally posted by williegoat: There is only one man who has the power to "cancel" anything on this forum and he exercised that power today. Anything else said by anyone else is simply (free) speech.
That's lame. My point stands. The forum member I am talking about (and that goes without saying) has no respect whatsoever for free speech, excepting his own free speech.
What's the purpose of his constant and directly ad hominem vulgarity (the "hominems" are often other forum members) other than to try to discourage anyone with contrarian views (contrarian to his views) from speaking freely?
That's cancel culture.
All that, strictly within the context of this forum.
"I regret that I have but one life to waste for Pennock's."
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That's lame. My point stands. The forum member I am talking about (and that goes without saying) has no respect whatsoever for free speech, excepting his own free speech.
What's the purpose of his constant and directly ad hominem vulgarity (the "hominems" are often other forum members) other than to try to discourage anyone with contrarian views (contrarian to his views) from speaking freely?
That's cancel culture.
All that, strictly within the context of this forum.
"I regret that I have but one life to waste for Pennock's."
There is no conservative-driven cancel culture. The right to free speech is a cornerstone of conservative ideology. We understand that that right is meaningless unless it protects speech with which we disagree.
Nobody, except of course Mr. Pennock, is canceling anybody. This forum is not bound by the U.S. Constitution. There is only speech at the pleasure of the benevolent and preeminent King of the Realm (forum).
There may be several of us here that regret, as well, your 'wasting of your life' on Pennock's Fiero Forum.
I spend more time in Tech helping other members with their car problems. I consider that a good use of my time and knowledge of these unique automobiles.
Expect a new assault on free speech, a renewed call for reining in social media as a result of the unfortunate events of the weekend.
Pay attention to how it is being reported. Look for phrases repeated in many stories. The killer is quoted everywhere as saying that he was "radicalized" online. They are not saying "assault rifle" or AR-15, but rather "high capacity magazine". This incident is being set up as justification of "cancel culture" and a more progressive attack on the second amendment.
Expect a new assault on free speech, a renewed call for reining in social media as a result of the unfortunate events of the weekend.
It sure didn't take long and the assault is just what you would probably expect.
As evidenced by this thread and now Hochul, Leftists have some very bizarre and very wrong ideas concerning what our first amendment and the attendant concept of "free speech" is all about.
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"Governor Hochul went on all the Sunday shows this week and made the same very false claim that "hate speech" is not protected under the First Amendment."
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A brand new WAR!!! Have you been missing Afghanistan? Well, have we got a trip for you! Nestled next to the quaint and exotic destinations of Kenya and Ethiopia, where the Arabian Sea meets the Indian Ocean, you're going to Somalia!
You an Al-Shabab lover? Luvs you some Al-Shabab, d'ya? Is one of your relatives high up in Al-Shabab?
I think we are all aware of how Ray B spent the 60s 
