Pennock's Fiero Forum
  Politics & Religion
  Daylight Savings BS Again...

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version


next newest topic | next oldest topic
Daylight Savings BS Again... by theogre
Started on: 03-16-2022 05:58 PM
Replies: 27 (313 views)
Last post by: blackrams on 03-20-2022 01:55 PM
theogre
Member
Posts: 32520
From: USA
Registered: Mar 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 572
Rate this member

Report this Post03-16-2022 05:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Morons forgot/ignore this crap was tried by Carter and Failed...

Senate passes bill that would make Daylight Saving Time permanent CNN and many others

Fail when Northern kids went to school way before Dawn in the first winter. Worse if you have to take a Bus to school because you have to allow 1 - 2 hours more just for transportation before school starts.

This is Why the Time Switch dates changed just a Few Weeks starting in 2007....
Last Sun in Oct to First Sun in Nov
First Sun in April to Second Sun in March
Total is 4 or 5 weeks depending on calendar for a given year.

------------------
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)


The Ogre's Fiero Cave

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
olejoedad
Member
Posts: 19849
From: Clarendon Twp., MI
Registered: May 2004


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 201
Rate this member

Report this Post03-16-2022 06:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Living in the far Eastern or far western segment of a time zone is a problem.

I lived in Indiana for several years in a town near the Ohio border. Ohio changed time twice a year, Indiana did not. I preferred to not change time, it just made a lot more sense. I worked in Ohio, so for years I dealt with two time zones on a daily basis, as did all of the people in the area.

It was a PITA.
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 38870
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 460
Rate this member

Report this Post03-16-2022 06:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by theogre:

Senate passes bill that would make Daylight Saving Time permanent...


Not quite sure why they decided on staying on Daylight Savings instead of Standard Time.

Sleep Specialists Say Standard Time Better for Health

 
quote

Some advocates and sleep researchers have demanded for the removal of the system by replacing it with a standard time cycle that aligns with one’s internal clock, mood and physical and mental health.

Dr. Sabra Abbott, a sleep medicine specialist at Northwestern Medicine, is a supporter of the standard time system.

“It is much healthier to get more of that light in the morning than in the evening,” she said. “There are a lot of studies that show that if you live in the Western side of the time zone, where you are getting less of that morning light, there are higher rates of cancer, depression rates go up if you don’t have that morning light. So, as a community, the sleep field feels like standard time year-round is the best approach.”


IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post03-16-2022 07:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by theogre:

Morons forgot/ignore this crap was tried by Carter and Failed...


Yeah, but the Boomers and Silent generations couldn't grasp the metric system either.
IP: Logged
cvxjet
Member
Posts: 3914
From: ca, usa
Registered: May 2010


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post03-16-2022 08:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cvxjetSend a Private Message to cvxjetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Who came up with this "Round earth" crap....We need a FLAT earth.........And the sun needs to come up at the same time every morning and go down the same time every evening....I say we pass a law requiring this!

[This message has been edited by cvxjet (edited 03-16-2022).]

IP: Logged
Jake_Dragon
Member
Posts: 33047
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 398
Rate this member

Report this Post03-16-2022 08:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:

Not quite sure why they decided on staying on Daylight Savings instead of Standard Time.


Well if they went to standard time those people that never got rid of the end of life OSs could just disable DST and go about their business.
But if they stay in DS time instead there will be a bigger push to get rid of those systems or pay out the nose for a 3rd party fix.
Not that I know of anyone running end of life OS.
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 38870
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 460
Rate this member

Report this Post03-16-2022 08:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Not that I know of anyone running end of life OS.


You mean like Win7? Who'd be brave enough to do that?

IP: Logged
Jake_Dragon
Member
Posts: 33047
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 398
Rate this member

Report this Post03-16-2022 09:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:

You mean like Win7? Who'd be brave enough to do that?


2012 goes end of life in 2023 and you would be surprised (or not) by how many companies still have old windows 2008/2003 servers online.
I don't think home users will have too many issues but I would expect this to break authentication for anything 2012 R2 and below without a patch. I would expect 2016 and newer would get a patch from MS.
Perhaps this is the push they need.
IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33081
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post03-16-2022 09:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Don't really care, I'm retired and get up/go to bed whenever I feel like it.
Well, that's not really true, I'm an early riser, if the sun is up, so am I.
The only reason I care about what a clock says is because I still have to do business with banks and other commercial entities.

Rams
IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post03-16-2022 09:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Does Putin change to Daylight Savings Time?
IP: Logged
Fats
Member
Posts: 5577
From: Wheaton, Mo.
Registered: Jan 2012


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 75
Rate this member

Report this Post03-17-2022 01:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FatsSend a Private Message to FatsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ya know, I'm sick of the time bs. Changing the time twice a year does nothing beneficial for anyone. It's a net drain on society.

You worried about kids waiting for a bus in the dark? Go to the School board and have school start an hour later, or give the little guys some flashlights. Life isn't always easy, sometimes you are in the dark.

There are many places that don't follow daylight savings time; Japan, China, Arizona, and Hawaii. The world doesn't end there. Not only can you still survive in those places, it's not bad at all.

I don't know why they didn't stay on standard time, it makes no sense to me, but I'm just glad we stopped the ignorant switching for now.
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
theogre
Member
Posts: 32520
From: USA
Registered: Mar 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 572
Rate this member

Report this Post03-18-2022 06:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:
Not quite sure why they decided on staying on Daylight Savings instead of Standard Time.
Their see money and think will help the "Green agenda."

Once you get above ~ 40° North Lat, about where NYC is, working "9-5" your hardly see the sun before and after work in winter.
just 1° or 2° more north your very close to Canada and is worse.

Change Dates seems to help but DST all year will cause a lot of problems not just kids as above example.
IP: Logged
theogre
Member
Posts: 32520
From: USA
Registered: Mar 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 572
Rate this member

Report this Post03-18-2022 06:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

theogre

32520 posts
Member since Mar 99
 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:
You mean like Win7? Who'd be brave enough to do that?
A Huge amount people does just that.

Many see No Reason to buy or install Win8 8.1 10 or 11 for Many reasons likely never ending fight just for M$ tracking, Ads and bloatware and Why Win7 is still over 15% market share.
Many have Win7 and 10 as dual boot and run 7 most times.

Many will just disable auto DST...

Auto Time setting is fixing 1 file w/ all date in it.
Or use regedit for same.
Is fairly easy to add a Time Zone that does whatever. I used to have "Space Time" w/ setting for normal setting so to screw-up other net admins.

TimeZonesView https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/time_zones_view.html

Registry to Configure Time Zone
https://www.itprotoday.com/...ne-editing-registry.
https://ephams.com/2019/01/...configure-time-zone/
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 38870
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 460
Rate this member

Report this Post03-18-2022 06:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by theogre:

A Huge amount people does just that.


I know, Ogre... I'm one of them.

[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 03-18-2022).]

IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33081
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post03-18-2022 10:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Fats:

You worried about kids waiting for a bus in the dark? Go to the School board and have school start an hour later, or give the little guys some flashlights. Life isn't always easy, sometimes you are in the dark.

Snip

I don't know why they didn't stay on standard time, it makes no sense to me, but I'm just glad we stopped the ignorant switching for now.


I agree. When I was a Production Manager, most of my employees would gripe about the time change for one reason or another so, I simply adjusted the starting time of the shift for the labor pool. Just as Fats is suggesting. Our office folks who reported to the General Manager stayed on whatever the time was for the rest of the community. Had to because that's what our customers did. My production employees liked what I did for the most part. You're never gonna please everyone.

Rams

IP: Logged
ray b
Member
Posts: 13980
From: miami
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 321
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 03:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by cvxjet:

Who came up with this "Round earth" crap....We need a FLAT earth.........And the sun needs to come up at the same time every morning and go down the same time every evening....I say we pass a law requiring this!





where are the elephants

''There are four mighty World Elephants that stand upon the carapace of Great A'Tuin the World Turtle, and upon whose massive shoulders revolves the Discworld itself. Their names are Tubul, Jerakeen, Berilia and Great T'Phon''
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 38870
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 460
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 04:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33081
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 04:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:



That's actually a pretty cool picture.

Rams
IP: Logged
olejoedad
Member
Posts: 19849
From: Clarendon Twp., MI
Registered: May 2004


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 201
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 04:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Is he the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles dad?
IP: Logged
Hudini
Member
Posts: 9030
From: Tennessee
Registered: Feb 2006


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 165
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 05:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for HudiniSend a Private Message to HudiniEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What happened to the elephant? I hope he is sleeping. He doesn't look very well.
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 38870
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 460
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 09:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Hudini:

What happened to the elephant? I hope he is sleeping. He doesn't look very well.


You try holding the earth on your back for all eternity while balancing on the carapace of a restless spacefaring tortoise!

 
quote
Originally posted by blackrams:

That's actually a pretty cool picture.


When I did a google search for an image of the missing elephants, there were quite a few similar images along these same lines. But yeah, I kind of liked this particular one too.

[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 03-19-2022).]

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25384
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 198
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 10:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by cvxjet:

Who came up with this "Round earth" crap....We need a FLAT earth.........And the sun needs to come up at the same time every morning and go down the same time every evening....I say we pass a law requiring this!






One thing I never understood... if some people believed the Earth was flat, and that water would simply pour off the side of the earth as it's doing in this image... where exactly does the Earth get new water from? Had they come up with an explanation for that? I mean, I realize there's a seriously limited group of people that actually believe this, but I'm just curious if they had bothered to explain this.
IP: Logged
williegoat
Member
Posts: 20783
From: Glendale, AZ
Registered: Mar 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 106
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 10:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for williegoatClick Here to visit williegoat's HomePageSend a Private Message to williegoatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Tomorrow, only in the great state of Arizona at exactly 12 noon, Ol' Sol will be directly overhead, just as God intended.

The rest of you poor deluded suckers will have to wait until after lunch (for those of you in California that would be after mimosas and avocado toast with bean sprouts) for the Vernal Equinox.

But the real question is: From where in the US Constitution does the Federal Government derive the power to dictate to the states how they must set their clocks?
IP: Logged
williegoat
Member
Posts: 20783
From: Glendale, AZ
Registered: Mar 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 106
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 11:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for williegoatClick Here to visit williegoat's HomePageSend a Private Message to williegoatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

williegoat

20783 posts
Member since Mar 2009
Now understand that the Vernal Equinox is a completely different animal from the Chevy Equinox. You are going to have to wait quite a bit longer for that infernal Equinox because not only did we voluntarily cede out authority to a bunch aristocrats, but we freely gave away our manufacturing advantage to the demon seed of Genghis Khan.
IP: Logged
williegoat
Member
Posts: 20783
From: Glendale, AZ
Registered: Mar 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 106
Rate this member

Report this Post03-19-2022 11:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for williegoatClick Here to visit williegoat's HomePageSend a Private Message to williegoatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

williegoat

20783 posts
Member since Mar 2009


Doesn't that just look scrumptious?
IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33081
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post03-20-2022 08:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by williegoat:



Doesn't that just look scrumptious?



Willie,
Do you remember me posting this?

 
quote
Originally posted by blackrams:
You're never gonna please everyone.

Rams


Well, it's applicable to that sandwich also.

Rams

IP: Logged
hnthomps
Member
Posts: 5763
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003


Feedback score:    (18)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
Rate this member

Report this Post03-20-2022 12:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hnthompsSend a Private Message to hnthompsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:

You mean like Win7? Who'd be brave enough to do that?


All of my PCs are Windows 10 with one exception. I keep an old desktop in my basement workshop for some mild net browsing and car parts info. That system is still running XP so I must be very brave or very stupid. I concede that both may be true but I did not want to waste a functioning computer.

Nelson
IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33081
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post03-20-2022 01:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:


All of my PCs are Windows 10 with one exception. I keep an old desktop in my basement workshop for some mild net browsing and car parts info. That system is still running XP so I must be very brave or very stupid. I concede that both may be true but I did not want to waste a functioning computer.

Nelson


Brave probably if they knew your history, stupid isn't even within artillery range. But, some might think a bit excessive if they saw your collection of vehicles, that I might say.
Just pull'n your chain Nelson. Nothing but respect here for you.

Rams
IP: Logged

next newest topic | next oldest topic

All times are ET (US)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock