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68 Triumph GT6 swap by jb1
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Report this Post01-13-2014 02:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I recently got offered a Triumph GT6 coupe and honestly do not know much about them at all , but had the idea of buying it and doing either a LS swap or a 3800 turbo swap both would be with 5sp..
Been leaning more towards the 3800(already have low mileage engine) but will have to get rid of all but the N* fiero to be able to afford to do it.
It would be with R200 diff. from a Infinity Q45 , and T5 trans from camaro.. all new wiring painless or similar..
any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. Here is a link to one already been done but different rear end etc.
http://www.ls1gt6.com/

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Report this Post01-13-2014 05:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
They're cool cars but I'll bet you'd have $40k in it once you did all that stuff from that website.
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Report this Post01-14-2014 03:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Oh yeah , not going to go all out like he did, I was thinking use the 3800sc I got and try to work out something with the m90 piping or even go 3800 turbo and a T5 trans.
To build like the one linked I would say to hit 40k would happen fast.

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Report this Post01-14-2014 06:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tebaileySend a Private Message to tebaileyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I knew a city cop years ago that put a 340 Buick engine in one for his little brother. SCARY car, but sweet ride. His car was an original 52 mgtd with a small block.
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Report this Post01-15-2014 08:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
since I found this car and been looking at swaps for it t want to do the 3800sc and t55 swap. I'm going to look at the car next weekend and check it out for rust etc before I buy. but I will keep looking for a decent inexpensive gt6 if this one doesn't work out.
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Report this Post01-21-2014 01:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for weaselbeakSend a Private Message to weaselbeakEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Better beef up that rear. It is a terribly weak link in the chain. My nephew has one. Kinda cool, rides like **** , handles good. Currently sitting with no reverse.
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Report this Post01-21-2014 12:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by weaselbeak:

Better beef up that rear. It is a terribly weak link in the chain. My nephew has one. Kinda cool, rides like **** , handles good. Currently sitting with no reverse.


using the Q45 r200 diff. or might even do a narrowed ford 9". Ill decide which as I get into it.

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Report this Post01-21-2014 07:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wftbSend a Private Message to wftbEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
that blue GT6 is an amazing car .don't the original cars have some kind of weird rear swing axle design ? every time i saw one a long time ago the rear wheels were tilted in at the top . i can see why the guy that built the blue car put in a straight axle .sounds like a great project .post some pics of the car did you pick it up yet ?
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Report this Post01-22-2014 08:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
they had a leaf spring over the diff. swing arm setup .. I am going sat to look it over again but it is a project I am excited about... I will post pics when I start the build..

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Report this Post01-22-2014 10:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cmechmannSend a Private Message to cmechmannEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Long time ago.
I had seen some Spitfire swaps with 60 degree V6 engines English/Ford and chevy 2.8s.
Some of the areas later were getting into the GT6 and adding a Buick/Land Rover V8 but with extensive rear suspension work unless it was a GT6+ that had a different set up.
However ultimately, many were dumping the whole drive train and installing Toyota Supra drive train(including the rear suspension. The engines fit nicely.
The Toyota inline 3.0s can be made to give up insane HPs without weighing it down too much.
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Report this Post01-22-2014 10:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wftbSend a Private Message to wftbEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
i can see using an older supra as a donor for motor and rear suspension .they were incredible cars , way ahead of their time .
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Report this Post01-23-2014 03:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I debated on an rb26 or a 1jz or 2jz but I have a low mileage 3800sc, harness etc and going to have to clearance the trans tunnel anyways, I can cut the inlet to the sc and weld in a u-bend and make a mount for the throttle body...plus the t5 can be had pretty inexpensive. and use the r200 or a narrowed ford rear end. leaning more towards the ford solid axle and 4 link,,,

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Report this Post03-01-2014 01:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post


getting new project to shop, I decided I am going to try and find an L33 or some other Gen III and use the mustang T5 since it is much smaller than the T56.

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Report this Post03-01-2014 08:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wftbSend a Private Message to wftbEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Glad you decided to go for it . Car doesnt look too bad .Good luck with the build , keep us posted .
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Just an FYI but many years ago there was a guy at my work who was selling a 1st Gen Spitfire. I still remember taking it for a test drive. He had put a Capri 2600 V6 in it. He said it was an easy swap. I did not buy it because it was kind of a crudely done swap.
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Report this Post03-07-2014 03:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have since decided to go with an LS ( or some variation of ) swap, the plan Is a narrowed ford 8.8 and a mustang T5 with the LS. The T56 is too large and heavy and I know the T5 will be the weak point but is a lot smaller than the T56 and the car is pretty light (hoping it will hold up) . the frame is tweaked a bit on the pass side and need to get it on frame machine before I go further with new panels, so I am starting on the rear half of the body work this weekend.
I have a little bit of work left on the N* fiero but it drives great just trans slips a bit when it kicks down in passing gear, I know it could be the torque converter but have read it could be issue with cracked shift solenoids. It is all original with 30k miles,I will work on it just kind of tired of it and want something different but will fix it . Just happy I will be able to drive it this summer.
The triumph will be a long term project I'm hoping to complete in app 1.5-2 years no hurry here. will fully document build, I started tearing down car and been taking pics but will wait to post any till some progress has been made. No one wants to see pics of rust, there is plenty of it..... nothing all new panels will not fix.

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Report this Post03-10-2014 04:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ZebSend a Private Message to ZebEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Looks like a fun build, best of luck. I agree on the T5/8.8 driveline. I doubt you'll put really big tires on the back of it like the blue car. Leave them as the weak link, and you'll be good for many miles.

One question sparked by the all Ford driveline. Why not a 5.0? Or similar Ford motor? I just though the 5.0 would be more compact, and allow easier mounting. Just not that big a Ford guy?
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Report this Post03-11-2014 10:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Actually my daily is a Mustang, reason for gm engine ...... I can get a 5.3 or 4.8 pretty cheap, I wanted to do an lq9 6.0 but they have really gone up in the past few years. the 4.8 would be plenty 285/295 and can get one for around $300 then go with an ls intake, I really have a long way to go before ready for engine and trans so I might change mind by then.
I was going to use the 3800sc I have but there is a lot of things like the water outlet on the rear of the engine. Plus I believe the resale value will be more with the newer gm engine, the T5 is mainly cost and size , they can be had a lot less than the t56 weight a lot less and physically smaller..

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LS1gt6.com was a lot of inspiration,
the car was in an accident on the passenger side, and what was going to be a quick fix has turned into totally rebuilding the passenger side, I fell it is best to replace it all and make it right .. The left side has been removed and waiting on new panels. got engine and trans pulled once panels are replace I am pulling the whole body off to have frame cleaned and powder coated.

one door is ready to clean up surface rust inside and reskin..

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(series II swap in progress)
85GT Northstar/ 4t80e
86GT 3800 n/a
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Originally posted by jb1:

LS1gt6.com was a lot of inspiration,
the car was in an accident on the passenger side, and what was going to be a quick fix has turned into totally rebuilding the passenger side, I fell it is best to replace it all and make it right .. The left side has been removed and waiting on new panels. got engine and trans pulled once panels are replace I am pulling the whole body off to have frame cleaned and powder coated.

one door is ready to clean up surface rust inside and reskin..




 
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They're cool cars but I'll bet you'd have $40k in it once you did all that stuff from that website.


Edit: AT LEAST $40k. That's a lot of work if you were rebuilding something generic. Half your battle will be finding parts.
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Report this Post04-04-2014 02:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
$40k nah, giving lots of room for unexpected issues I am going to guess closer to 20K. I am not doing actual LS swap probably pick up a 4.8 and spend around $350 , then a muncie 4speed will save a lot over the T56, 20k for a car that in good shape on best of days will bring maybe close to 10k and that would be a very good day for the seller.... I am going to do 90% of all the work on my own.

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