Doing some work on my 86, I noticed it had no heat shield, the exhaust manifold bolts have no studs for a heat shield, and the rubber strip was still in place along the back of the trunk lid. This car is missing all signs of the recall. No stickers, no anything.
So I did what any Fiero owner would do. Printed out all my documentation, a copy of the 88-C-24, printed photos of the above, printed parts requests from gm about the availability #10154785, located one in FT. Madison IA and one Lansing MI, and walked on in to my local GM stealership/service center with the world biggest **** -eating grin.
Spoke (Politely! You catch more flies with honey!) to just about every manager in the building.
Guess whos getting a free warranty repair, 35 years and 160,000 miles later.
(The dealership said yes and ordered parts. GM can still shoot my little parade down when the request comes in by the dealership today. But according to the dealership, they have the parts, and the car is due for a recall, so they don't have much ground to decline service.
My guess is this is probably the last Fiero to ever be recalled. Unless this practice is more common than I am imagining. At the very least I figured you all would get a kick out of this.
My guess is this is probably the last Fiero to ever be recalled.
Hmmmm, could be! I remember when I first joined here there would be an occasional post from a member or two getting their recalls done, and how parts were still available at the time.... But that was 20 years ago now.
I would try to keep the decklid strip and re-install it afterward if you can.
Originally posted by css9450: Hmmmm, could be! I remember when I first joined here there would be an occasional post from a member or two getting their recalls done, and how parts were still available at the time.... But that was 20 years ago now.
I would try to keep the decklid strip and re-install it afterward if you can.
Interesting thought about the decklid strip, noted!
Originally posted by Dukesterpro: Interesting thought about the decklid strip, noted!
Definitely recommend keeping that strip in place, or reinstalling it afterward. In theory it was removed to better vent the engine bay, however doing so allows rainwater from the decklid to pour onto the exhaust manifold, below... I recall some even cracked as a result of thermal shock.
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Doing some work on my 86, I noticed it had no heat shield, the exhaust manifold bolts have no studs for a heat shield, and the rubber strip was still in place along the back of the trunk lid. This car is missing all signs of the recall. No stickers, no anything.
So, does that mean your engine still has the weird looking pre-recall rubber intake snorkel?
As mentioned earlier, save the decklid strip! Remove it before you take it in for the recall. It just unclips from the decklid.
Yes the strip is a part many regret not keeping. The water gets on the back plugs and over time will rust them in.
The cooling improvement is really nothing.
No you are not the odd one out there. I had mine done years after the recall. The dealer was like well I don't know if we can get the parts. I called GM and they said yes we can do it. The dealer called 15 min later and asked when can you bring it in. I asked when do you want it they said tomorrow.
My concern was that I was going to get a tech who had never worked on a Fiero but I got a tech that not only had done this job but did so many he could do it with out lowering the cradle. He later told me he had not seen a Fiero that clean since they were still selling new ones..
My local dealer did the recall on my '84 SE; I was dismayed at the chintzy looking aluminum tape visible through the decklid center vent plate. I asked the service manager to replace the strip and the baffle but he replied that they weren't allowed to. "Al," says I, "Where are the parts?" "I can't tell you that we had to discard them in the dumpster at the back" says Al. My one and only dumpster diving experience; strip and baffle reinstalled when I got home and still there.
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They claim there is no recall on my car. They also cant prove the recall was ever done. But since it doesnt actively show as needing one. I cant recall it
And New GM basically Cancel most Recalls under Obama Bail Out Scheme that let old GM to go thru Bankrupt that also Cancel most Stocks too.
Only kept some more recent Recalls like Ignition Lock Recall causes engine shutoff etc at that time to keep NHTSA happy.
------------------ Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. (Jurassic Park)
But it has been show time and time again, that new GM is absolutely willing to sue and punish people for reproducing parts for cars from old GM that they wont even work on, much less develop anything for.
This soulless corporate domination of the US is strangling innovation.
I had a 86 that still had all the recalls outstanding and when I took it to the dealership back in 2008, they completed all the recalls (which included getting brake calipers, cables and pads).
They did warn me that they will do what they can with available parts.
But, YES, remove the weather strip yourself and keep it to reinstall afterwards. If you leave it one, the dealer may not give it back.
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Anyone smiling and grinning about getting the V6 recall done should reconsider. The recall is garbage. It causes exhaust manifold cracks, leaks, spark plug rust ins, unfiltered air into the intake manifold, and many more problems.
When shopping for a Fiero I typically subtract value if it's had the recall done as I know I'll have to procure parts to reverse the process and will have to deal with the above mentioned problems aftereffects. I know there were many threads on this forum about owners threatening to file a class action for later finding out their Fieros had been sucking in unfiltered air for the pevious 10 years directly into the engine intake due to the butchery of the recall.
Worst of all is seeing a low mileage collectable Fiero that had the butchery done to it. Instant pass for me. Actually first thing I look at is if the decklid weatherstrip is still attached which is usually the tell tale sign.
BTW I actually do have an unopened V6 recall kit that came with my low mileage Fiero (the owner did not get the recall done thankfully or I might never have bought it). The only thing that kit's good for is for a spare exhaust manifold.
But it has been show time and time again, that new GM is absolutely willing to sue and punish people for reproducing parts for cars from old GM that they wont even work on, much less develop anything for.
This soulless corporate domination of the US is strangling innovation.
They claim there is no recall on my car. They also cant prove the recall was ever done. But since it doesnt actively show as needing one. I cant recall it
Damn
When Keith Goodyear had a meeting to license the Pontiac logo on his reproduction taillight lenses, the GM folk didn't even know what a Fiero was.
Well they did my recall with no issue around 2000. They have the records.
GM will do the recall, if parts are available. Often it is the dealer that refuses. Might contact GM direct to see what they say.
The trade mark deal is to try to control what gets made and how it is sold. We deal with this at work and we license products to protect out name and quality of products.
This generally prevents a lot of real,y crappy Chinese parts though any are still Chinese at least you have some say.
Generally the fees charges cover most of the legal cost that are extensive.
We get people trying to use our name on things that are really bad and we now spend the licensing fees to go after them legally.
Well they did my recall with no issue around 2000. They have the records.
GM will do the recall, if parts are available. Often it is the dealer that refuses. Might contact GM direct to see what they say.
The trade mark deal is to try to control what gets made and how it is sold. We deal with this at work and we license products to protect out name and quality of products.
This generally prevents a lot of real,y crappy Chinese parts though any are still Chinese at least you have some say.
Generally the fees charges cover most of the legal cost that are extensive.
We get people trying to use our name on things that are really bad and we now spend the licensing fees to go after them legally.
The parts are always available. It's just at what cost? I would sell my unopened recall kit to GM for $1000. Would GM just say the parts are unavailable?
For the right price I would suspect pretty much any Fiero NOS part is available. I've seen all sorts of NOS parts on ebay over the years, things like NOS fastback clips, etc.
How many recalls were done? My Indy still has the decklid weatherstrip and no exhaust heat shield so I don't believe it was done either. Was that the same recall that put the shorter dipstick? I would like that, but not concerned about the other aspects and kind of like that its in original form.
I never did the recall on my 84. I guess that’s why the oil dipstick is on the passenger side whilst most others are on the drivers side of the engine?
The parts are always available. It's just at what cost? I would sell my unopened recall kit to GM for $1000. Would GM just say the parts are unavailable?
For the right price I would suspect pretty much any Fiero NOS part is available. I've seen all sorts of NOS parts on ebay over the years, things like NOS fastback clips, etc.
You have to use some common sense here. GM is not going to buy used or second market parts to do a recall.
GM is in the new car business not negotiating for restoration parts.
Regulations call for how long parts have to be available new after that once they are sold out they are considered gone. No one logs inventory of what you or I keep in our garage.
NOS is new old stock but if not in GMs hand it is not their stock anymore.
