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Auxiliary Gauges---Earliest Year? by fierofool
Started on: 07-17-2022 06:46 PM
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What was the earliest year the auxiliary gauges were offered, other than the Indy?

I have a brown dash, instrument pod, and shift surround that I recall removing from an 84 Fiero. Its an 85MPH speedo and the pod has black switches.

Today, while cleaning and rearranging my storage unit, I noticed that the dash has provisions for the auxiliary gauge pod and even has the harness present and protruding through the slot. At best, I believe the gauges were first offered in the 86 model year. Did the 84SE have the gauges as an option? The car had the sheepskin seat covers, too.
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Originally posted by fierofool:

I believe the gauges were first offered in the 86 model year. Did the 84SE have the gauges as an option?


I just assumed that they were first made available the same year as the 2.8/GT was... in '85. But I haven't based my belief on any research.

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I've owned 2 original 85GTs and have seen a few, but none had the center gauges. I don't remember this one having the gauge present. I didn't get it but there was another with me that may have gotten it. He had an 86GT with tan interior.
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Originally posted by fierofool:

I've owned 2 original 85GTs and have seen a few, but none had the center gauges.


Yet you say the '84 Indy had the center gauges. Every Indy, or was it an option?
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Report this Post07-17-2022 09:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I wasn't positive about the Indy so I just looked up some interior images. The Indy didn't have the center gauges.
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Report this Post07-17-2022 11:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I used to stalk the dealerships back in the day.
The first Fiero to have the center aux gauges was the 86 2M6/SE. The 4 cylinder SE did not have them.
My 85 GT, purchased new, did not have them. It did, however, have an oil pressure gauge in the tach.
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Report this Post07-17-2022 11:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I forgot that the 2m6 came before the GT. Maybe my dash isn't from an 84. I'm going to remove the ductwork and map pocket to clean it. Maybe there's some identifiers that are hidden. The sticker on the ductwork is unreadable.
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pretty sure the 85 2m6 all had aux gauges. So the connector should be there for all 85-88 model years.
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If any 85 V6's had the gauges seems the GT would have had it, too. They didn't.

I haven't removed the ductwork yet to see if there's any info on the dash.
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He's right. '86 and up V6s only. The oil pressure gauge moved to the aux pod to allow for the new backlit gauges with the turned tach.
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Originally posted by Brian D:

He's right. '86 and up V6s only. The oil pressure gauge moved to the aux pod to allow for the new backlit gauges with the turned tach.


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Then the car we stripped must have had an 86 dash transposed into it. It does have the cloth backing and Fiero logo in the dash pocket. As I recall, the 84's had an elastic strap map holder in the dash pocket.
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Two tone or single color dash?

GT's in 86 had a single color dash, all other 86 models had two tone.

That switched for 88, the GT das was two tone, base and Formula were single color.
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It's a two tone.
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Originally posted by fierofool:

Then the car we stripped must have had an 86 dash transposed into it. It does have the cloth backing and Fiero logo in the dash pocket. As I recall, the 84's had an elastic strap map holder in the dash pocket.


Depends which model and options, my 84 SE has the map pocket in the dash, and on the doors (power windows). I also added the aux gauge pod to my car after upgrading to the GT 120MPH speedometer cluster. The 84 cluster has a volt gauge below the tach, 85+ had an oil pressure gauge below the tach, and when the 120 MPH cluster was introduced the tach didn't have a gauge built into it, they moved the oil pressure to the center cluster and added the volt gauge that had been absent since '85.

I did a write-up a long time ago on adding the aux cluster to an 84, there's another one somewhere somebody did on adding it to an 85.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum9/HTML/000010.html

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Two tone or single color dash?

GT's in 86 had a single color dash, all other 86 models had two tone.

That switched for 88, the GT das was two tone, base and Formula were single color.


Out of curiosity were 87s all single tone?
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My 87 is two tone gray.
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And my '87 SE Mera had a two tone Saddle interior.
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Report this Post07-25-2022 06:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Today, I removed the ductwork and the map pocket from the dash and it appears that this is an OEM 1984 brown/tan dash with a factory cutout for the auxiliary gauge wiring harness. On the back side of the dash behind where the map pocket is located, and hidden by the duct work is a casting that says says1984 Fiero Base. I will download, resize and post pictures later this evening.
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I also have some other gold tone trim pieces that came in the saddle tan interiors. I'll let all this go for $225 within a reasonable drive of Atlanta or Athens, Ga. Will not separate. Cannot ship.

The only damage to the dash are the two small cracks at the corners of the defroster grill, a few light rust spots on the grill, and some fading of the light tan on the corner vents.
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My go to.... Enthusiasts Guide to the Pontiac Fiero. (NIFE)

It says that the Auxiliary gauge cluster above the center console was put on all V6 models starting in 1986.
If this is in error, then I am reading the book incorrectly.
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All evidence points to that, too but this is obviously an oddity. The cutout for the harness is definitely factory.
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RWDPLZ, did your 84SE dash already have the cutout for the auxiliary gauge harness? This dash definitely came from an SE based on the sheepswool seats.
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Originally posted by fierofool:

RWDPLZ, did your 84SE dash already have the cutout for the auxiliary gauge harness? This dash definitely came from an SE based on the sheepswool seats.


No, I had to add it.
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This one is definitely factory. You can see where it's reinforced around the cutout with what looks like some kind of film as is used elsewhere. Maybe it was part of their prototyping. It's likely that the 86 was already in the works. I'm trying to contact my friend who was with me to see if he got a center cluster from the car.

Edited: He said he didn't get a cluster from the car, so I don't really know what this dash was doing in the car. It's been many years ago so maybe the cluster was already gone with the radio surround.

Can anyone provide any further info by the part number in my picture?

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