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So Is There a Pittsburgh Fiero Club? by RotrexFiero
Started on: 12-25-2021 08:41 PM
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Please let me know.

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Report this Post12-25-2021 08:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero ViceSend a Private Message to Fiero ViceEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

There was one back in the 90's, but not now. No!
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There used to be a good number of clubs in Ohio but most are gone or doormat.

Many of us are still here with out cars as this is one of the highest concentrated areas for the car.

In this day and age it is tough to keep a club together long if not for a strong core doing all the work. Even then people just don’t have the time anymore to participate.

It is not just car clubs but many other much larger groups are struggling today.

Covid has made it even worse.

Many national clubs today are going private. This way some does Al, the work and they are rewarded for the effort. Also they are forced to put out a hood product if they are to survive. The major Shelby club has done this and are thriving.

It also cuts all the ego crap that hurts clubs.
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Originally posted by hyperv6:

There used to be a good number of clubs in Ohio but most are gone or doormat.

Many of us are still here with out cars as this is one of the highest concentrated areas for the car.

In this day and age it is tough to keep a club together long if not for a strong core doing all the work. Even then people just don’t have the time anymore to participate.

It is not just car clubs but many other much larger groups are struggling today.

Covid has made it even worse.

Many national clubs today are going private. This way some does Al, the work and they are rewarded for the effort. Also they are forced to put out a hood product if they are to survive. The major Shelby club has done this and are thriving.

It also cuts all the ego crap that hurts clubs.

I really wish that we could compile a list of existing clubs along with their current membership status to get a better idea of the number of Fieros per region.
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Report this Post12-26-2021 11:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hyperv6Send a Private Message to hyperv6Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
We still have a good number of cars here but no clubs.

This applies to much of the country so getting club info would be a poor indication of the number of cars.

When the cars originally sold Ohio, Michigan, Illinois and Indiana were the strongest markets. Not just for Fiero but Pontiac in general too.

This is why Fiero Phil had most of the shows in those states. He tried a few out of the area but they were poorly attended.

The Michigan, Ohio and Indy shows were over 200 cars if I recall.
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MAFOA is a large and active Fiero club with members from PA, OH, DE, MD, VA , RI .NY, & NJ

Wes Shiring is the activities director for MAFOA in Western PA. He lives in Indiana, PA
You can reach him at shiring1@yahoo.com

MAFOA typically gets quite a few Carlisle attendees from the Pittsburgh area so there must be a group out your way. There was a Facebook group for these guys a while ago but I don't recall the name. MAFOA president Jennifer Goss can probably give you that info. She is very helpful and a very nice person. She can be reached at
JENNIFER.G@FIEROPRIDE.COM

And a recommendation; Join MAFOA, its inexpensive $15/yr and the monthly newsletter has tech tips and a listing of all activities.
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The clubs were a good place to exchange information, learn from others, and check out their machines. Now you can do that all over the internet. I would have never attempted some of the things I did, or accomplished without the forum and its members at my side.

It would be nice to see the clubs come back, but I guess you'd have outline some benefits.
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Originally posted by RotrexFiero:

The clubs were a good place to exchange information, learn from others, and check out their machines. Now you can do that all over the internet. I would have never attempted some of the things I did, or accomplished without the forum and its members at my side.

It would be nice to see the clubs come back, but I guess you'd have outline some benefits.


Clubs like many social groups have been hurt by the web. They also have been hurt as free time for many is limited anymore. Most clubs or groups are struggling for membership as they just don’t have people joining and when they do only a couple end up doing most of the work.

In person clubs benefit much as you create personal friendships and in the cases of car clubs help with cars. I know when the Cleveland club was together we shared out secrets to restoration and detailing that generally once we left our area we would all come home with awards. We wanted everyone to be successful.

But like many things egos, hurt feelings and politics come in and bring the end to some good clubs. Also the lack of people to do the work of running the clubs becomes tough to find.

But many organizations like the Masons, scouts, Knights of Columbus, Eagles, etc are all struggling in many areas to survive.

We have lost the art of networking. In the years past it was who you knew. Today you just sign up to LinkedIn to network with many people you may never have met.
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There is an informal Western PA Fiero group on Facebook that is composed of MAFOA members but we have many, many members in that area. Our big yearly event is in Carlisle every June (as you likely know) and we also are now trying to grow a presence at the Pittsburgh Grand Prix. Wes is also up for planning some other events in the region.

Would love to get you guys connected! We are a low drama, Fiero loving group who enjoys each other's company.

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In 2003 we had 18 Fiero's at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix, they used to piggy-back with the T-Bird Club, but the last few years there was maybe ONE. I personally know the 2 guys who run the American show and I'm very good friends with one of them, so if somebody wants to organize something let me know and I can have designated area brought up in a future PVGP meeting. (Side note: I was a sponsor for 3 years but have no interest any longer. We have a really nice regional AMC show and I was thinking about doing something similar for the Fiero, but its in the earliest stages of conception). Here are 2 photos from 2003...





There are many reasons for decline as several people pointed out above, but one of the most obvious is the age demographics. Most of the Fiero owners around here 20 years ago were in their 40's, so it's no wonder they don't have their Fiero any longer (lack of interest, difficult to get in & out in their 60's, etc). The first person who comes to mind is Mark, he was very active and very knowledgeable. It's no different than all my vintage car customers who don't use their 50s/60s/70s cars any longer. The biggest difference between the "other old cars" and the Fiero is, many of the other old cars often have many new buyers willing to take the seat, and unfortunately the Fiero is not in that category. Truth be told, the Fiero is the same as it was 20 years ago, a massively misunderstood unique car that is an exceptional value to those who know it and understand it. That might change in the future, but for now the song remains the same.

PS: The one contributing factor to decline in many car automobile groups that nobody realizes, mentions, or willingness to acknowledge is, the fact that Facebook didn't help over the past 10 years as it was "perceived" is a major contributor to the decline in clubs and forums, and I'm not going into all the details because its too deep and controversial. Bottom line, Facebook exposed a vulnerability in humans and that's why the co-founder left years ago, and its completely out of control now. Even though I'm tech savvy, I've never been on Facebook and I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole for 10 different reasons, and I know many people who closed their accounts and walked away in 2021 for 5 of those reasons.

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Maybe it's time for me to move out of this state and head East. Sounds like all the great action is on the other side of the U.S
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You should move out of California for the simple fact that don't want you to have any rights whatsoever

Joking aside, yes the old car scene is rich and plentiful in the rust belt states, its always been that way.

I have customers tell me all the time... "its seems like you folks up there have all the good cars and events"
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