Forum member Scott's (darkhorizon) turbocharged 3800 notchback . It always amazed me how fast Scott ran this record 9.87 1/4 mile time @142 mph with his low budget build. He did this on the second incredible run. It was nothing short of amazing. Keep your eye on the time board. I doubt if this record will ever be broken with a gasoline engine Fiero. https://youtu.be/wDccYFa_kxI
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
[This message has been edited by Dennis LaGrua (edited 07-02-2021).]
There is proof of Scotts run on You Tube where they show the run and the timing board where you can clearly see the ET and MPH. Can you point us to fogs documented 1/4 mile run? The others maybe? I'd enjoy seeing those runs on video, so until such time as they are available, will believe Scott's 1/4 mile run as being the fastest 1/4 mile in a Fiero.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
There is proof of Scotts run on You Tube where they show the run and the timing board where you can clearly see the ET and MPH. Can you point us to fogs documented 1/4 mile run? The others maybe? I'd enjoy seeing those runs on video, so until such time as they are available, will believe Scott's 1/4 mile run as being the fastest 1/4 mile in a Fiero.
We are debating one tenth of a second here between Scott's run and one that was done in the far off place of Estonia. I still don't see proof of Fogs run in a video, only a timing slip that could be forged. To let this debate rest I will simply say that Scott has the fastest 1/4 mile time in North America. using a 3800 GM powertrain, with a standard chassis in an otherwise standard Fiero .
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
We are debating one tenth of a second here between Scott's run and one that was done in the far off place of Estonia. I still don't see proof of Fogs run in a video, only a timing slip that could be forged. To let this debate rest I will simply say that Scott has the fastest 1/4 mile time in North America. using a 3800 GM powertrain, with a standard chassis in an otherwise standard Fiero .
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua: We are debating one tenth of a second here between Scott's run and one that was done in the far off place of Estonia. I still don't see proof of Fogs run in a video, only a timing slip that could be forged. To let this debate rest I will simply say that Scott has the fastest 1/4 mile time in North America. using a 3800 GM powertrain, with a standard chassis in an otherwise standard Fiero .
Just trying to keep accurate information posted... which is exactly the opposite you are trying to do. This isn't about 1 tenth, Fog's time is 0.482 seconds (nearly 5 tenths or half a second) quicker and 6.37 mph faster... these are not trivial numbers and definitely not "one tenth".
The whole purpose of the 1/4 mile thread is for people to post slips and videos to document their successes, so people know they are real. Fog did exactly this. He posted the slip, the posted results from the race venue, as well as the video from the posted slip run... yet you still refuse to accept his accomplishments, which is very disappointing.
Fog: 9.388 @ 148.59 mph vs Scotts: 9.87 @ 142.22 mph Scott has had 8+ years to take the number away from Fog, but hasn't posted that he has done so.
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Originally posted by Fog: 9.388 @ 148.59 OL02 race number can be verified here.
[This message has been edited by fieroguru (edited 07-04-2021).]
OK point proven about Fogs run but to be fair about it, we also must consider the percentage of Fogs car that is OEM original. We can put a Fiero body on a Funny Car, gasser or Jet car but is it a Fiero? That is why the NHRA has different classes. Scott did his build on a low budget using only a different GM powertrain so I'll credit him for that 9 second run, fastest 1/4 mile in No America .
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
Kidding, well sort of... Maybe I'm imagining this, but I thought I read somewhere 20 years ago that the early 86 GT's were the quickest stock 1/4 mile Fiero due to the Muncie 4-speed combined with 3.65 gearing, because the 1984-1985 had different gearing and the later 1986.5 to 1988 ones being 5-speed. (that "extra gear" being sales marketing influenced more than anything and 1st becoming a tow-truck gear)
Disclaimer: I've owned several Getrag's and I prefer the Muncie 4-speed over the Getrag 5-speed because there is only a few hundred rpm difference at highway speed and I rarely drive my car on highway, 1st gear is more useful, its a quieter trans, more robust/stronger... and last but not least while I don't have any evidence to back this up it seems clutch life is longer on the 4-speed historically.
[This message has been edited by Skybax (edited 07-05-2021).]
Kidding, well sort of... Maybe I'm imagining this, but I thought I read somewhere 20 years ago that the early 86 GT's were the quickest stock 1/4 mile Fiero due to the Muncie 4-speed combined with 3.65 gearing, because the 1984-1985 had different gearing and the later 1986.5 to 1988 ones being 5-speed. (that "extra gear" being sales marketing influenced more than anything and 1st becoming a tow-truck gear)
Disclaimer: I've owned several Getrag's and I prefer the Muncie 4-speed over the Getrag 5-speed because there is only a few hundred rpm difference at highway speed and I rarely drive my car on highway, 1st gear is more useful, its a quieter trans, more robust/stronger... and last but not least while I don't have any evidence to back this up it seems clutch life is longer on the 4-speed historically.
not sure how this reply belongs in this thread?? Stock Fieros are fun, but complete dogs on a drag strip... 4 speed or 5 speed. no real difference
