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Fiero Security Lugnuts by fierofool
Started on: 05-01-2021 02:33 PM
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I have just encountered my 4th consecutive 88 Fiero with security lugnuts with the same key pattern.

I think there were two suppliers of these security lugs, and maybe they both were using the same patterns. The tag I have for this particular security key has registration number 3410588. If you are in need of a security lugnut socket, give it a try.

Made by
American Accessories,
Division of Amcor Industries, Inc.

They are now doing business as
Gorilla Automotive Products
2011 East 49th Street Los Angeles, CA 90058 United States

Phone 1-323-585-2852

WEBSITE www.gorilla-auto.com
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Originally posted by fierofool:
I have just encountered my 4th consecutive 88 Fiero with security lugnuts with the same key pattern.

I think there were two suppliers of these security lugs, and maybe they both were using the same patterns. The tag I have for this particular security key has registration number 3410588. If you are in need of a security lugnut socket, give it a try.

Made by
American Accessories,
Division of Amcor Industries, Inc.

They are now doing business as
Gorilla Automotive Products
2011 East 49th Street Los Angeles, CA 90058 United States

Phone 1-323-585-2852

WEBSITE www.gorilla-auto.com
Not sure where you get this and site has a few issues and no mention related to Amcor.

GM only had/has 1 vendor making Wheel Locks... Amcor and is still at https://www.amcorlocks.com/ but moved to 6220 Commerce Drive Westland , Michigan 48185

One Link in my cave Tires page is "dead" is just old w/ added part after .com IOW the /store2.asp?type=SETS gets 404 error on https://www.amcorlocks.com

Amcor only made a "few" patterns for lugs and others and not really a surprise same pattern on several to many cars.
Is why you could go to many GM dealers to use "Master Key" set to order new key w/o having key numbers from original doc's came w/ car.

Amcor now shows every key pattern available at https://www.amcorlocks.com/copy-of-complete-set
Plus also sells "Master Set" but isn't same used by GM because missing odd small keys that unlock "hubcaps" on some GM rims etc.
If you need a lock that works w/ GM lug covers this is only place I know of to get them. PN seems to change so "call" them before ordering.

No Locking lugs are really good, more so if rims allow a lot of room to hack them off by whatever tools, but still makes many thieves to find an easier target.

I use McGard locks because don't have OE rims and can't use GM lugs w/ plastic covers.
McGard made a point that their design allows many more keys then most others including Amcor.
So you won't see same pattern and can't use other keys very easy.
McGard also makes locks for many other things for Govrmnt and more.

Been using McGard for many years... Unlike many, They won't rust in states w/ heavy salt on roads, near ocean, etc. Sells Lug Nuts/bolts w/ same level of manufacturing.

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Your wheels fit nothing 5 x 100 low offset and nobody can use them unless multifit then nobody wants them. If 3 piece then get an alarm with 4g by the time they have wheels off you get a chance to be at the scene and in USA armed with your AK.

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Not sure where you get this and site has a few issues and no mention related to Amcor.


This is where I got it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/p.../company/1625140D:US
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Originally posted by Australian:
Your wheels fit nothing 5 x 100 low offset and nobody can use them unless multifit then nobody wants them. If 3 piece then get an alarm with 4g by the time they have wheels off you get a chance to be at the scene and in USA armed with your AK.
Clueless are you...

They steal any rims and tires mostly to sell not to be used by them... A Few examples:
On CL Ebay etc.
At flea markets etc. or To vendors doing this.
To used tire and other shady shops.
As Scrap Metal. Even 4 very dirty Aluminum rims often still gets $30 or more. I know this as fact because junked 4 Al rims stored outside for months and painted by idiots.

Again, any Wheel locks can help because many thieves just go to easier targets w/o them.

Car alarms are BS. No-one bothers to report them because of 90+% are False Alarms. You can even tow a car w/ them and no-one cares.
Car Texting you every time someone touches a car gets Very Old And Very Fast. If you dial down sensitive level then very likely jacking the car won't set off an alarm.

And While Australia and UK have banned guns to the General Public yet your Crime and Murder Rates keep climbing. UK now bans most Knives carried by anyone too but doesn't help the Crime rates. UK EU and other Gun and "Anti-terror" laws didn't stop 7/7 and other Terrorist attacks either.
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Originally posted by fierofool:
This is where I got it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/p.../company/1625140D:US
Thanks but likely not any better then Amcor locks.
Any lock w/ molded keys has issues at minimum. So "safer" then plan lugs but not much.

Many Chrome lugs have problems w/ rust after just one or a few cycles taking wheels off. Worse are cheap aftermarket chrome lugs.
Most Wheel Locks are more so even used w/ actual key. McGard and very few others will last decades in the worse places.
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TheOgre, this is Amcor. It's the new name of the company that Amcor evolved into or was purchased by.

I have a set of McGard wire spoke wheels that have been stacked in my garage for about 23 years. No rust. They were from my daughter's boyfriends car. She bought and paid for them and pulled them off when she caught him cheating. The caps are on them but she lost the key, so no one is interested in buying them.
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Originally posted by fierofool:
TheOgre, this is Amcor. It's the new name of the company that Amcor evolved into or was purchased by.
Not quite right...
Link says...
"Amcor Industries, Inc., doing business [as] Gorilla Automotive Products," isn't = "sold to" "spun off" etc.

Anyone can have "Doing Business As" (DBA) in any county or state.
In very short... You can go to local gov (Prothonotary's office), look in a "book" to make sure name is Not there etc, fill a form and pay a fee and name is now "you" even w/o having a business.
But many places won't allow obvious Names TM w/ USPTO like you trying Coors as a local name.

Plus Amcor Industries, Inc. likely doesn't = Amcor Locks... https://www.bloomberg.com/p.../company/0530466D:US

Might find more info digging in Mi gov or "calling" Amcor Wheel Locks Inc
old listing at http://www.buzzfile.com/bus...cks-Inc-734-458-8920
 
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Name: Amcor Wheel Locks Inc
Year Founded: 1988
but doesn't seem correct as the product was used way before that.

Large number of companies use Amcor as part of a name.
If you web search Amcor Industries Inc you get Amcor.com is Amcor Plastics and others results.

Worse, Two companies can have same or similar and one often have to change names or be sued. Sometime is accidental, other times is on purpose to suck in buyers from the other company.

Just found this... Gorilla was sold to Wheel Pros Holdings L.L.C.
https://www.tirebusiness.co...lug-nuts-wheel-locks
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I have an Amcor set for my Indy.
https://www.amcorlocks.com/...-7-complete-set-gold

I prefer it to the McGard style locks GM now sells.

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Originally posted by theogre:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Australian:
Your wheels fit nothing 5 x 100 low offset and nobody can use them unless multifit then nobody wants them. If 3 piece then get an alarm with 4g by the time they have wheels off you get a chance to be at the scene and in USA armed with your AK.
Clueless are you...

They steal any rims and tires mostly to sell not to be used by them... A Few examples:
On CL Ebay etc.
At flea markets etc. or To vendors doing this.
To used tire and other shady shops.
As Scrap Metal. Even 4 very dirty Aluminum rims often still gets $30 or more. I know this as fact because junked 4 Al rims stored outside for months and painted by idiots.

Again, any Wheel locks can help because many thieves just go to easier targets w/o them.

Car alarms are BS. No-one bothers to report them because of 90+% are False Alarms. You can even tow a car w/ them and no-one cares.
Car Texting you every time someone touches a car gets Very Old And Very Fast. If you dial down sensitive level then very likely jacking the car won't set off an alarm.

And While Australia and UK have banned guns to the General Public yet your Crime and Murder Rates keep climbing. UK now bans most Knives carried by anyone too but doesn't help the Crime rates. UK EU and other Gun and "Anti-terror" laws didn't stop 7/7 and other Terrorist attacks either. [/QUOTE]

A soundng alarm would also be deterant to someone jacking up car. You are miserable.


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My car has the original lock nuts on and I have the paperwork with it too. My car sits in my garage most of the time.
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