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88 front suspension in pre-88 question by RCR
Started on: 08-13-2018 07:30 AM
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Report this Post08-13-2018 07:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRClick Here to Email RCRSend a Private Message to RCREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Quick question for anyone that's done the swap.

Does the ride height seem higher? Have you been able to get the car to the same ride height or lower than the pre-88 suspension?

I ask because mine seems very high, even with a coil cut out. I'm not quite sure how I will get it lower.



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Report this Post08-13-2018 10:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for da.slyboyClick Here to Email da.slyboySend a Private Message to da.slyboyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
May or may not help since mine is an 86. But when I cut my springs for lowering, I didn't get the full effect until after I took it for a drive and let the springs fully seat/settle. Mine looked like yours after putting weight in it, but then lowered after the test drive. You could probably try bouncing the front end a bit to get you a better idea right now if your car is not movable.
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Originally posted by da.slyboy:

May or may not help since mine is an 86. But when I cut my springs for lowering, I didn't get the full effect until after I took it for a drive and let the springs fully seat/settle. Mine looked like yours after putting weight in it, but then lowered after the test drive. You could probably try bouncing the front end a bit to get you a better idea right now if your car is not movable.


The car has been on the blocks for two years now. You'd think it would settle by now. Thanx for the thought, though.

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Bob, it could sit there forever and not settle, it needs to be driven.
The 88's sat an inch higher in the front by design, as customers of earlier cars complained about scraping the front air dams (and worse) on curbs, etc.
Do you have lowering springs, ball joints or cut springs on the front?
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Did you make sure the springs were properly seated in the crossmember and on the lower a-arm? It is easy to install the springs wrong and doing so will raise the front.
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Joe, didn't know that, but the car has been driven a little bit. Hopefully that's it. I did cut one coil from the stock springs, FWIW, otherwise stock 88.

Guru, I think I did it right. I've read that could be an issue. Is there any tell-tales that I can use to verify it's right or wrong?

thanx for the feedback guys,

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Bob, I think that the driving also helps to fully seat the top of the spring and the rubber isolator fully into the upper spring pocket. It's almost a force fit that is almost impossible to get done by pushing up, setting the car on the ground or even driving around the block.
Hitting the brakes or finding some speed bumps helps to get the front settled into place.
What diameter are your front tires?
Also, are the wheel arches higher in the Ferrari body than in the Fiero?
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Bob, I think that the driving also helps to fully seat the top of the spring and the rubber isolator fully into the upper spring pocket. It's almost a force fit that is almost impossible to get done by pushing up, setting the car on the ground or even driving around the block.
Hitting the brakes or finding some speed bumps helps to get the front settled into place.
What diameter are your front tires?
Also, are the wheel arches higher in the Ferrari body than in the Fiero?


Thanx for the info, Joe.

I'm not quite sure, as these are just junk yard rollers to move the car around. The plan is for 25-26" diameter, which should help a bit. And, the Mera seems to have higher arches, too, which obviously isn't helping.

I'll try to stick my nose up there this weekend and see if the springs are fully seated.

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Here are two pictures of Meras from the 35 show. One high, one low.

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Original tire size on the MERA was significantly larger than the Fiero, wasn't it?
Something like 265/50/15?
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Original tire size on the MERA was significantly larger than the Fiero, wasn't it?
Something like 265/50/15?


That number is correct for the stock rear tires on a Mera. Factory standard for the front tires was 245 x 50 x15. Based on personal experience, you can run the 265s on all four corners but may have a bit of rubbing on the front tires at low speeds in a tight turn.

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Thanks for that info!
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The black car has Goodrich G-Force Sport Comp-2, 225 x 50 x16 on the front and 255 x 50 x 16 on the rear
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Originally posted by Larryinkc:

The black car has Goodrich G-Force Sport Comp-2, 225 x 50 x16 on the front and 255 x 50 x 16 on the rear


Thanx for the info. That would be about a 25" tall front, and a 26" for the rear. That's what I would be targeting.

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