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Tight lug nut by 85fieroguy
Started on: 02-23-2018 06:23 PM
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Man oh man have a front left flat. Cannot get one lug nut off of alum mags. Any ideas before I strip the hex top shape of nut?? HELP !!!!
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Originally posted by 85fieroguy:

Cannot get one lug nut off of alum mags. Any ideas before I strip the hex top shape of nut??


A few suggestions.

If the lug nut is open end, spray penetrating oil onto the end of the wheel stud.

It may or may not make much of a difference, but don't loosen all the rest of the lug nuts before getting this tight one loose. (Tighten them back up if you've loosened them.)

And this should be obvious, but don't be using some crappy ill-fitting tire iron trying to loosen the lug nuts. Use a deep socket (correct size, of course), preferably 1/2" drive with a long breaker bar.

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After the lubrication as suggested, tap on the nut itself with a hammer and punch to break free any oxidation. It can work, or it cannot.

Good luck.
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Not sure if you gotten that lug nut off yet but..............

I have driven (with a hammer) a deep well socket onto a lug nut to get it off before.

I have also used nut breakers, available at most auto parts stores.

Have used "Freeze Off" (I think that was the name), a product that you spray onto the lug bringing it to a very cold temp and causing it to contract and breaking the lock corrosion has on it.

I've also welded another nut onto the old nut and then twisted the heck out of a breaker bar to get one off. You may not want to do this with aluminum wheels.

There are probably several more methods.

Rams

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This may sound odd buy give it a try. I worked in an auto shop and was taught this.

Try tightening it up a little before trying to loosen it.
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Report this Post02-24-2018 08:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tsharkSend a Private Message to tsharkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I had to apply heat (think propane torch) to get a nut loose.
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to further what tshark said, heat it with a torch for a bit, then spray it with water immediately after taking the torch away until it stops steaming, the dramatic temperature change can often time break free any rust
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Mentioned earlier but you can't beat a deep snug fitting socket and a long breaker bar, backed up with a 3 foot section of steel pipe just in case. The satisfaction of hearing that "SNAP" is exillerating. Even if you break the stud in the process you'll still have a grin on your face days later.

On the other hand make sure your turning in the correct direction. You never know if a previous owner slipped in 1 left-hand threaded stud just for kicks or a clever deterrent to prevent wheel theft.

ps: GM and others use to have RH studs on one side of the car and LH on the other.

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Originally posted by Spoon:

On the other hand make sure your turning in the correct direction. You never know if a previous owner slipped in 1 left-hand threaded stud just for kicks or a clever deterrent to prevent wheel theft.


Damn, that would be sneaky!

 
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GM and others use to have RH studs on one side of the car and LH on the other.


GM? I dunno about that. None of the many Chevs I ever owned had reverse-threaded wheel studs. Going way back, I don't think my parents' 1955 Chev even had 'em. I believe Chrysler did though.

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Hopefully you've been able to remove it by now. If not, and you have tried everything that folks have suggested, it may be time to use an impact gun. Even an el cheapo electric impact gun from Harbor Freight should do the trick. Also, if it is on there that tight, then there is a very strong possibility that it is cross threaded and you'll end up replacing the stud and the nut.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

GM? I dunno about that. None of the many Chevs I ever owned had reverse-threaded wheel studs. Going way back, I don't think my parents' 1955 Chev even had 'em. I believe Chrysler did though.



My 60 Pontiac has LH studs. Many others too.

https://www.jalopyjournal.c...-wheel-studs.417894/

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Originally posted by Spoon:

My 60 Pontiac has LH studs. Many others too.

CHRYSLER'S LH THREAD WHEEL STUDS


No Chevys... ever, and ancient Pontiacs don't count.

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I've run into this problem so many times ( due to overzealous "auto techs" that crank every lug nut to 150 Ft/Lbs) that I took a spare 1/2" socket wrench and jammed it into a 4 foot piece of steel pipe. A giant breaker bar, if you will.

Now ALL the lugs come off.

A couple of times the stud came off with the lug nut but if you do the oil spray thing, then loosen just a bit, re-tighten, loosen, re-tighten a few times it usually comes off OK.

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Report this Post02-27-2018 04:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cliffwClick Here to Email cliffwSend a Private Message to cliffwEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I forgot to mention ... put a long handled four way lug nut wrench on it and a car jack stand on the outside of the lug wrench to keep it level. Then stand on the end of the right side of the lug wrench and jump up and down on it.
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Originally posted by cliffw:

This may sound odd buy give it a try. I worked in an auto shop and was taught this.

Try tightening it up a little before trying to loosen it.


A few times my wife has handed me a soda bottle she couldn't open, me thinking I was being funny crank it down even tighter but when I give it back, she's able to open it.
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