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Celebrating the pop up headlight....guess what's missing? by Monkeyman
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/au...h?li=BBnb7Kz#image=1

Fifty cars, most of which nobody has ever heard of and no Fiero. Seriously?
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Just goes to show you what the average car enthusiast thinks of our cars...

...they don't.

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Missing others too.
'60s GTO i think (Haven't seen one in years.) and others had vacuum operated HL doors.
Some Pontiac Sunbird had "eyebrows" only covers 1/2 of HL. HL Sim to Geo shown but made in the US. (Same gen 2 motor and module design and FB or Fiero.)

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Originally posted by Fiero 88:

Just goes to show you what the average car enthusiast thinks of our cars...

...they don't.



Fiero, one of the best red headed stepchild cars ever.
Too unique to have the huge following of the Camaro or Mustang.
Not the status symbol of a BMW or an exotic.
Fiero enthusiasts are genuine enthusiasts.
I don't expect recognition.
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Originally posted by 2.5:
I don't expect recognition.


Nope, and I actually quite enjoy having a somewhat obscure car, with the exception of when I'm trying to find aftermarket items. Slightly slimmer pickins than the new edge I used to have.

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Originally posted by Fiero 88:


Nope, and I actually quite enjoy having a somewhat obscure car, with the exception of when I'm trying to find aftermarket items. Slightly slimmer pickins than the new edge I used to have.






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Just looked at that too, no Fiero. Did we see any Corvettes in there? Pop ups are not my favorite anyway.
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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

Fifty cars, most of which nobody has ever heard of and no Fiero. Seriously?


Okay fine, PFF members are all suffering from hurt feelings now... but there were still some beautiful cars there to look at.
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The Fiero must fall into the same pigeonhole as the Buick Reatta, which didn't get mentioned either, although there is a more "normal" Buick on there instead.

I was certain they would forget the Honda Accord but they did mention it (on the page with the Prelude).
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Originally posted by css9450:

The Fiero must fall into the same pigeonhole as the Buick Reatta,


The Reatta is another of the cars I would love to own. For some reason I'm a big fan of GM "oddball" cars. I also want a Cadillac Allante'
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Originally posted by 2.5:
Fiero, one of the best red headed stepchild cars ever.
Too unique to have the huge following of the Camaro or Mustang.
Not the status symbol of a BMW or an exotic.
Fiero enthusiasts are genuine enthusiasts.


BRILLIANT analogy/observation! 100% agree!

But I have to admit, I love that I have the only Fiero that shows up to the classic car cruises and car shows in the area. Nothing against Corvettes, Camaros, or Mustangs, but EVERYBODY has one of those. The Fiero gets smiles, compliments, and questions each time I take her out.

And amusingly, one of the questions I got last week was "Where are the headlights"? This was from teenager - but the car is almost twice his age. I showed him how the pop ups work, and he thought it was "the coolest thing ever". I respectfully agree
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You might like this also: Tribute to pop up headlights

Fiero at 2:16
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I showed him how the pop ups work, and he thought it was "the coolest thing ever".


It's not so cool when only one goes up... but I digress.
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More click bait for the web is all this was.

It also was targeted mostly to Euro car fans.

I can think of nearly two dozen cars not listed here just from America. Some obscure some not.
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I like HIDDEN headlites, not pop ups myself. Some hidden ones are 80s Lincolns, gen 1 Camaro, Dodge Charger, GTO, Chrys 5th Ave,
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You might like this also: Tribute to pop up headlights

Fiero at 2:16


Nice video and he got many of the ones I was thinking of like the several years of the Riv and T bird.

He was still missing some really common ones like the Lincoln, 68-69 Impala and of all ones not to miss the 69 Camaro.

I noted he must be based here in the midwest as many of these cars are ones I have seen locally. No mistaking the Vectors especially the red white and blue one that was a one of one. .
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A lot of those cars had only flip-up eyebrows- NOT pop up headlights....And in the paragraph on the Pantera, they stated they could could have gone with it's predecessor, the Mangusta....It did not have any form of pop-up- the headlights were in the grill....I think they hire drunk chimps to do these auto articles......But they need to be careful...there are some chimps that have MORE auto knowledge than whoever wrote this article.....
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A lot of those cars had only flip-up eyebrows- NOT pop up headlights....And in the paragraph on the Pantera, they stated they could could have gone with it's predecessor, the Mangusta....It did not have any form of pop-up- the headlights were in the grill....I think they hire drunk chimps to do these auto articles......But they need to be careful...there are some chimps that have MORE auto knowledge than whoever wrote this article.....


I agree sooo many articles out there written by non car people.
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The Reatta is another of the cars I would love to own. For some reason I'm a big fan of GM "oddball" cars. I also want a Cadillac Allante'




I also would like an Avanti... ('63)
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A few weeks ago I took my boat out to the Delta for a ski ride- Parked on the levee at the marina was a 4 door Avanti! I know that the Avanti was produced for decades after Studebaker went under in the mid-sixties...but a FOUR DOOR?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by css9450:

The Fiero must fall into the same pigeonhole as the Buick Reatta,


The Reatta is another of the cars I would love to own. For some reason I'm a big fan of GM "oddball" cars. I also want a Cadillac Allante' [/QUOTE]

The Reatta is a cool car. I understand there were only about 21,000 ever built between 1988 and 1991. The one below is a 1990 purchased from the estate of the original owner and always maintained by the dealer. I bought it fairly cheap and presented it to my daughter (just got her drivers license) to use for a couple of months before going off to college. She loved it so much I gave it to her.

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Beautiful car

I see them for sale occasionally, but they are either trashed or WAY overpriced. If I ever chanced into a nice example - I would be VERY tempted to pick it up. I would have plenty of room in the garage, as I could put it where my wife used to park (as she would leave me if I bought ANOTHER car). So, like I said, it would have to be a very nice Reatta
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I agree sooo many articles out there written by non car people.


"Car and Driver" magazine once made a crack about those kind of articles. Something about a guy in a room, with a computer, and the editor slides a piece of paper with the name of a car on it under the door. Hmmm, what's this? "Ford Pinto"? Let's see what the ol' Google has to say...

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Beautiful car

I see them for sale occasionally, but they are either trashed or WAY overpriced. If I ever chanced into a nice example - I would be VERY tempted to pick it up. I would have plenty of room in the garage, as I could put it where my wife used to park (as she would leave me if I bought ANOTHER car). So, like I said, it would have to be a very nice Reatta


Yup, in MI, it is hard to find older cars in nice condition, unless you are willing to pay a lot.
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Originally posted by trivet:

Beautiful car

I see them for sale occasionally, but they are either trashed or WAY overpriced. If I ever chanced into a nice example - I would be VERY tempted to pick it up. I would have plenty of room in the garage, as I could put it where my wife used to park (as she would leave me if I bought ANOTHER car). So, like I said, it would have to be a very nice Reatta


LOL!

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"Car and Driver" magazine once made a crack about those kind of articles.


I dunno....C&D once compared an 88 Formula Fiero against a MR2 and a CRX....And the CRX won...."The CRX has the body of Daryl Hannah"?! The Fiero walked all over the other two in every test(Including lap time) except braking......The only complaints about the Fiero were "heavy steering and the instruments point at your navel" While the CRX had "A driving position that no amount of adjusting could fix"........I think every other ad in that edition of C&D was for Hondas.....

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Years ago, I thought it was C&D, but could be wrong reviewed an 88GT in their mag.
They stated it had aluminum heads and power steering.
This worked to my advantage when I finally purchased one since the owner didn't know anymore about fieros than I did.
I was able to talk him down $500.
Later I found out that the magazine was wrong.
It now has aluminum heads and power steering.
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They had a couple I didn't expect like the Subaru XT, but one I was certain they wouldn't have they didn't.

A couple generation of the Nissan Pulsar/NSX.





Then that got me thinking.

Various generations of the Nissan SX.





The Nissan 300ZX...



Then I realized... They didn't post a single Nissan/Datsun but they posted both the Dodge Daytona and Mitsubishi Starion which were basically the same car. While they posted only 1 generation of the Isuzu Piazza, we'd know it as a Impulse, they posted the Geo Storm as well which is just another generation of the Piazza.

That made me think of the Mitsubishi 3000GT.



Then I thought of the Chrysler/Plymouth Laser and Eagle Talon.



I think were gonna need a bigger list...

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Saturn coupe from mid 90s...

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Not sure if they "flip up" but these should count too.

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Not only skipped my Fiero, also juiced me on my Celica Supra MKII.

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

A few weeks ago I took my boat out to the Delta for a ski ride- Parked on the levee at the marina was a 4 door Avanti! I know that the Avanti was produced for decades after Studebaker went under in the mid-sixties...but a FOUR DOOR?


I think one of the owners of Avanti made 4 doors for one year. Pretty sure it was less than 100 made. Pretty sure by then they were just bodies on a GM chassis. They were around 1988-1990. About the only difference Studebaker made was the original had round headlite bezels, and the next year had squared ones.

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Bah! I can't believe I forgot this one!

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Just looked at that too, no Fiero. Did we see any Corvettes in there? Pop ups are not my favorite anyway.


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1990–2001 Honda Prelude, 1983–91 Honda Vigor, 1986–89 Imperial, 1969–75 and 1981–83 Iso Lele, 1969–74 Iso Grifo, 1965–74 Isuzu Piazza, 1981–87 (also Isuzu Impulse, Holden Piazza) Jaguar XJ220, 1992–94 Lamborghini Athon, 1980 (concept car) Lamborghini Bravo, 1974 (concept car) Lamborghini Countach, 1974–90 Lamborghini Diablo, 1990–98 Lamborghini Islero, 1968–69 Lamborghini Jalpa, 1981–88 Lamborghini Jarama, 1970–76 Lamborghini Urraco, 1973–79 Lamborghini Marco Polo, 1982 (concept car) Lamborghini Miura, 1966–73 Lamborghini Silhouette, 1976–79 Lancia Montecarlo, 1975–79 (for Scorpion, North-American version) Lancia Stratos, 1972–73 Lincoln Continental, 1970–79 Lincoln Mark series, 1968–83 Lister Storm, 1993–99 Lombardi Grand Prix, 1968–72 Lotus Eclat, 1974–82 Lotus Elan, 1962–73 +2 model, 1967–75 Lotus Elan M100 1989–95 Lotus Elite, 1974–82 Lotus Esprit, 1976–2004 Lotus Excel, 1982–92 Manta Mirage, 1974–86 Maserati Bora, 1971–80 Maserati Ghibli, 1966–73 Maserati Indy, 1969–74 Maserati Khamsin, 1974–82 Maserati Merak, 1972–82 Matra 530, 1967–73 Matra Bagheera, 1973–80 Matra Murena, 1980–83 Mazda 929 (some models) Mazda AZ-550 Sports Type A, 1989 (concept version) Mazda Familia Astina, marketed in Europe as the original 323F, 1989–94 Mazda MX-5 Miata (NA), 1989–97 Mazda RX-7, 1978–2002 Mercury Cougar, 1967–70 Mercury Capri, 1991–94 (Third Generation) Mercury Cyclone 1970-71 (hidden headlights optional on GT) (70 was a Comet Cyclone and 71 was a Montego Cyclone) Mercury Marauder, 1969–70 Mercury Marquis, 1969–78 Mercury Montego, 1970–71 (some models) MG EX-E, 1985 (concept car) Mitsubishi GTO/3000GT, 1991–93 Mitsubishi Eclipse, 1990–94 Mitsubishi Starion, 1982–90 (also Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler Conquest, captive imports) Monica 560, 1973–74 Nissan Silvia/200SX(S12), 1983–89 Nissan 180SX/200SX/240SX(S13), 1989–94 [also 1996–98 (Kouki) 180SX] Nissan 300ZX (Z31), 1984–89 Nissan Pulsar/N12 NX/N13 NX/N13 EXA, 1983–90 Oldsmobile Toronado, 1966–69 and 1986–92 Opel GT, 1968–73 Panther Solo, 1989–90 Plymouth Fury, 1970–71 (Gran Coupe & Sport Fury, Sport Suburban wagon for 1971) Plymouth Fury III, 1972 (optional) Plymouth Laser, 1990–91 Plymouth Superbird, 1970 Pontiac Fiero, 1984–88 Pontiac Firebird (including the Trans Am and Formula), 1982–2002 Pontiac Grand Prix, 1967–68 Pontiac GTO, 1968–69 Pontiac Sunbird SE/GT 1986–93 Porsche 911 Turbo SE 'Slantnose', 1985–89, 964 Turbo S 'Flatnose', 1994 Porsche 914, 1969–76 Porsche 924, 1976–88 Porsche 928, 1978–95 Porsche 944, 1982–91 Porsche 968, 1991–94 Quantum Sports Cars 2+2, 1993– Reliant Scimitar SS1, 1984–90 Reliant Scimitar SST, 1990 Reliant Scimitar Sabre, 1990–93 Saab Sonett III, 1970–74 Saturn SC2, 1991–96 Subaru XT 1985–91 Škoda 1100 GT, 1970 Škoda 110 Super Sport, 1971 Tatra MTX V8, 1991 Toyota 2000GT, 1967–70 Toyota Celica, 1984–93 Toyota Corolla, 1983–91 (some versions) Toyota MR2, 1984–99 Toyota Sprinter Trueno, 1983–92 Toyota Supra, 1982–92 Toyota Tercel, 1982–88 (also known as Corolla II and Sprinter Carib) Triumph TR7/TR8, 1975–82 TVR 350i, 350SX, 1983–89 TVR 350SE, 1990–91 TVR 390SE, 420SE, 1984–89 TVR 400SE, 400SX, 430SE, 450SE, 1988–91 TVR 420 SEAC, 1986–88 TVR 450 SEAC, 1988–89 TVR Tasmin, 280i, Tasmin 200, 1980–88 Venturi 400 GT Venturi Atlantique, 1987–99[1] Venturi Coupe Venturi MVS Venturi Transcup Volvo 480, 1986–95 Vector M12, 1995–99 Vector W8, 1989–93 Vector WX-3, 1993 Zimmer Quicksilver, 1986–90[2]


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