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sunroof latches by vette7584
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has anyone else noticed there are at least 3 different latch parts that mount to the sunroof glass panel? I have 3 different ones, trying to find best one to use on my car. one has natural finish to the metal latch mechanism that engages the receiver on the body, one has a black painted metal latch, the third has a different plastic piece that mounts to the sunroof, it has a little lip or handle if you will. some of the metal arms that engage the receiver are bent out, is this from use or was it an adjustment technique? also some had O-rings on the latch and some didn't.
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Report this Post04-01-2016 04:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for vette7584Send a Private Message to vette7584Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Patrick, I wish I could do PIP, I tried, my picture's are too big?
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Originally posted by vette7584:

I tried, my picture's are too big?


1024 pixels is the maximum width for images here (height is unlimited), and the file size can't be more than 300 kb.

Use a free program such as IrfanView to re-size and/or re-compress your images. This handy program even allows you to select the maximum file size before you create the JPG (instead of having to guess multiple times until you get the compression settings right).

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Report this Post04-02-2016 05:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for vette7584Send a Private Message to vette7584Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I gave up, tried downloading infraview or whatever it is. cant believe it has to be so difficult to post a picture here. ebay and every other site in the world is easier
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ebay and every other site in the world is easier


I guess you'll need to ask "every other site in the world" your Fiero questions.
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thanks for your help posting the pics Gall
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Report this Post04-03-2016 11:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
They look like the usual running changes that you see in a lot of vendor parts.....with or without consent from the car maker...
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in the pics of the two latches side by side. the little metal arm, one is black, one is natural, i some bent outwards, is this from normal use, or was it a way or adjusting these?
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Originally posted by vette7584:

I gave up, tried downloading infraview or whatever it is. cant believe it has to be so difficult to post a picture here. ebay and every other site in the world is easier


I just use MS Paint. You should have it already (assuming you are using Windows). Open the pic. Click on "Resize". Select "Pixels". Change the first number (Horizontal) to 1024, or less (I prefer 800x600). You will see the filesize along the bottom of the screen. Make sure it is less than 300KB (Unfortunately you don't get to set the compression level (at least my version doesn't have it as an option) so you may have to resize again just to get it below 300KB). "Save As" a .jpg. Then you are good to go with PIP.
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I just use MS Paint... (Unfortunately you don't get to set the compression level (at least my version doesn't have it as an option) so you may have to resize again just to get it below 300KB).


That's a deal killer for me. Why bother using a vastly inferior program?

With IrfanView the maximum file size is set prior to creating the JPG, no matter what the image size is. The program then figures out the compression automatically. Easy peasy... no messing about.

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Report this Post04-03-2016 07:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
um,,, anybody have comments about the latch?
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Originally posted by vette7584:
in the pics of the two latches side by side. the little metal arm, one is black, one is natural, i some bent outwards, is this from normal use, or was it a way or adjusting these?

They tend to get bent over time and with ecessive tension. I know when I first got my car in 88 they were straight...not now. The arms are made of a pot metal and will break pretty easily if you try to straighten them.
The only difference I have seen between the unpainted & painted(newer) is the addition of a finger tab to help pull down the glass when latching...
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The only difference I have seen between the unpainted & painted(newer) is the addition of a finger tab to help pull down the glass when latching...


Ah, so that's what that extra little ledge thing is for. I've never seen one in person or even in pictures previously.
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I should mention, that I DID get it straightened without breaking..
It has to be taken apart, a small roll pin in one arm is removed to get the shaft out of the plastic latch arm. I then set the metal shaft section in a vise and tightened till straight. Then reassembled... good as new. When reinstalled in the car, I experimented with different thickness shims to get it snug and not to tight.

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Orig88GT-NC, do you think it would be safe to assume the one with the "finger tab" may be a later production latch?
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Orig88GT-NC, do you think it would be safe to assume the one with the "finger tab" may be a later production latch?

I'm sure it was, its the one that was original to my 88. I think in later production they got the design refined a bit by adding the finger tab and painting the arms for appearance. Failed to mention, it does have the o-rings added to the arm posts also. These seem to cut down on some of the rattling noise.
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Originally posted by Orig88GT-NC:

I'm sure it was, its the one that was original to my 88. I think in later production they got the design refined a bit by adding the finger tab and painting the arms for appearance.


What does "later production" refer to... later Fiero production or later '88 production? The latch on my Formula is basically the same as the ones on my '84, '86 and '87... no "finger tab".

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i think "finger tab" at only to support sun shade when used.
many lost that or never came will the car.

both pic's seem the ears are bent.
ears bent can cause problem to get the glass sealed.

yes that's "pot metal" and can's bent back.
could make a part but other things are "bad" to most times like the roof frame slots to lock in the latch bolts are bent down.
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Originally posted by theogre:

i think "finger tab" at only to support sun shade when used.
many lost that or never came with the car.


Ah, that might explain why I've never seen one.
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