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Autocross guys-- step inside, class question by Napoleon_Tanerite
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I'm planning on racing my 87 GT this spring. With the mods that are currently on it (TFS handling kit 2, 17x7.5" wheels) it would put me in STR. Reading through the rules it talks about being able to replace suspension components with upgraded parts, but not altering the factory geometry. What does that mean for an 88 cradle swap? I know you have to relocate the strut mount points on the 87 in order to fit the 88 cradle, but that just means you maintain the factory geometry of the 88. My local club isn't the most responsive or helpful on these things, and to be honest, I think I could probably get away with running whatever class I taped to the side of the car-- but I'm not a dirty lying liarface cheating scoundrel.
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Originally posted by Napoleon_Tanerite:

I think I could probably get away with running whatever class I taped to the side of the car-- but I'm not a dirty lying liarface cheating scoundrel.


I wouldn't sweat the class. At our level it's all just for fun.

My '88 Formula is classed in STR... and looking at the competition in that category, I haven't got a hope of ever "winning" the class. Unless there's money on the line, I doubt it's critical what class our Fieros (stock or slightly modified) might be put in.
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I doubt any of the SCCA or other clubs tech people have a clue about Fieros! I doubt they even know there is a difference in suspensions and brakes. I bet I could take my 3800SC through tech and they wouldn't know that it wasn't a stock engine.
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I wouldn't sweat the class. At our level it's all just for fun.


Agreed... but then again my fiero is in XP and isn't competitive... As long as I stay on the course and my times get progressively lower, I am happy! My goal for the next year or two is to get better wheels/tires and spend more time balancing out the setup.
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Agreed... but then again my fiero is in XP and isn't competitive... As long as I stay on the course and my times get progressively lower, I am happy! My goal for the next year or two is to get better wheels/tires and spend more time balancing out the setup.


What's the problem? Too much power/torque for the wheels to handle?
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...my fiero is in XP and isn't competitive


I wish my Fiero had the problems yours has!
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Originally posted by Napoleon_Tanerite:
What's the problem? Too much power/torque for the wheels to handle?


Several things
17/18 wheels and 275+ rear width with 200 tread wear tires
Stiffer springs (400/275 isn't stiff enough) to reduce body roll and then dial in proper sway bar settings.
A trick way to go from -0.5 degree rear camber to -2 or -3 and back again quickly and precisely so I can still drive it the 90 mile round trip to work daily in the summer and then autocross on the weekends with minimal setup time.
Power steering for a quicker ratio, when doing some 3S runs, it is a complete 180 turn around a cone and stock fiero steering ratio sucks for that.
Driver mod for better throttle modulation (382 whp on tap) and more fluid steering inputs.

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Originally posted by fieroguru:

Driver mod for better throttle modulation (382 whp on tap)...


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