I have just started to work on my 88 iron duke and I wanted to change the oil and filter. It took awhile to find the filter, but I got one. My 88 formula was just easy.........but duke, ...uuuhhh
My question: Is there a video on this ? Because I cant get that crazy large plug off to change the filter.
Its inside the oil pan.
Need suggestions and all the info I can find please !!! Thanks
It should be pretty straightforward. Just make sure you have the correct size socket so you don't round off the hex like this guy did:
The guy kind of hacks the job but you can get the gist of it. Its the only video I've seen that shows that design Duke.
If you mess up that big metal cap.... Used to be you could get replacements at the parts store. I don't know if that is still the case, but either way, use the right socket so you don't have to mangle it to remove it.
Before you try... Get Lisle 53000 Made to remove stuck/strip filter plug.
Google Amazon etc for Lisle 53000
Dorman.com has/had new plug w/ seal. Get thru many places.
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There's a reason why the terms "clockwise" and "counter-clockwise" are used in regards to tightening or loosening a threaded fastener. They make a whole lot more sense!
Hey Robert: Note the blue additions in the quote above.
Whether you're standing on your head, lying down or whatever, think of 12:00 o:clock as toward your head & 6:00 o'clock as toward your feet if you're facing the fastener.
There's a reason why the terms "clockwise" and "counter-clockwise" are used in regards to tightening or loosening a threaded fastener. They make a whole lot more sense!
Lol! Yep, Patrick you're right. The terms may, however, be losing their effectiveness as analog clocks fade into antiquity. What's clockwise on a digital clock? I've seen a few kids puzzled by that concept until it's explained...
What's clockwise on a digital clock? I've seen a few kids puzzled by that concept until it's explained...
I've seen more than a few kids (as well as adults) apparently puzzled by the concept of "right" vs "left"... and I'm not referring to politics! There's no hope.
There's a reason why the terms "clockwise" and "counter-clockwise" are used in regards to tightening or loosening a threaded fastener. They make a whole lot more sense!
So long as it's not a reverse threaded fastener. Those you usually find on rotating shafts though so the direction of rotation causes the fastener to get tighter.
So long as it's not a reverse threaded fastener. Those you usually find on rotating shafts though so the direction of rotation causes the fastener to get tighter.
Righty, tighty; Lefty loosey, gets confusing with left-hand threads. So does clockwise; counter-clockwise. You have face away from the fastener, manipulate the wrench behind your back and watch in a mirror.
I'm an Electronic Designer and Mechanical engineer. See that touchscreen on your phone, I'm responsible for the improvements that got it to your phone from the early days of touch.
I have some original touchscreens when they were $1500 each.
My problem is: 1) I do not have all the tools I need...yet, but never stopped me before 2) I do not have a lift, so its difficult to do anything under either of my cars, but I'm working on a solution for my garage. I do not like jack stands...at all.
My 88 Formula, I just put over 2000 miles since I purchased it a few months ago and got it running good.
All my $$ have always been in Electronic Test equipment and some in tools for auto repair.
But, I'll get where I want to be with both cars, just takes time.
I'm an Electronic Designer and Mechanical engineer. See that touchscreen on your phone, I'm responsible for the improvements that got it to your phone from the early days of touch.
I have some original touchscreens when they were $1500 each.
I design all types of products.
As an ME, the "right hand rule" as used for resolving vectors may be more familiar. Point the thumb of your right hand ( for right hand threads) in the direction you want the fastener to move to loosen or tighten and the direction that your fingers curl is the direction to rotate the fastener. In the case of the filter cap, you want the cap to move down away from the pan. Point your right thumb down and your fingers will naturally curl in a counterclockwise direction (as viewed looking up at the cap). Use your left thumb for left hand threads. Same convention for direction of engine rotation....point your thumb towards the direction of power output.
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Oh Gosh, please no formulas or right hand rules, no physics or Time-of-Flight calculations, No Electromagnetic Radiation formulas, that will drive you crazy (Hummm, but I do have an 88 Formula. LOL)
I'm trying to get away from that and work on Fiero's for a change in life. LOL
Oh Gosh, please no formulas or right hand rules, no physics or Time-of-Flight calculations, No Electromagnetic Radiation formulas, that will drive you crazy (Hummm, but I do have an 88 Formula. LOL)
I'm trying to get away from that and work on Fiero's for a change in life. LOL
Ok...lefty loosey / righty tighty for you! LOL...I think if you give it a shot it will become completely intuitive and you won't even think about which way to turn a threaded fastener.
Ok...lefty loosey / righty tighty for you! LOL...I think if you give it a shot it will become completely intuitive and you won't even think about which way to turn a threaded fastener.
I worked in a machine shop for almost 11 years and have been working on cars and tractors since I was 16. I still find myself visualizing in my head which way to turn the wrench on a fastener according to it's orientation to me. Yes the right to tighten and left to loosen is automatic, but which way is right for the bolt on the other side of the block that I'm getting from the bottom? From the top?
I worked in a machine shop for almost 11 years and have been working on cars and tractors since I was 16. I still find myself visualizing in my head which way to turn the wrench on a fastener according to it's orientation to me. Yes the right to tighten and left to loosen is automatic, but which way is right for the bolt on the other side of the block that I'm getting from the bottom? From the top?
Again...point your thumb (or visualize) in the direction you want the bolt to go (e.g. to loosen the bolt on the other side of the block, your right thumb would point away from the block)....try it. Instead of using the orientation of the fastener to you, this trick uses the orientation between the bolt and the block.
I received my GM duke oil cover removal tool today $9.00 and free shipping. It was still in the package...new from the late 80's.......nice price too !
If you are under the car on your back looking up at the filter then the standard conventions still work but if you are visualizing this from above it goes all ass backwards!
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If you are under the car on your back looking up at the filter then the standard conventions still work but if you are visualizing this from above it goes all ass backwards!
LOL My favorites are when I have to reach around and behind or under something so I can't even see the fastener I am trying to reach.... Maybe doing it left-handed for some additional confusion! Helps to carefully check the ratchet beforehand to make sure its set to tighten or loosen, whichever is appropriate.
If you are under the car on your back looking up at the filter then the standard conventions still work but if you are visualizing this from above it goes all ass backwards!
Thats the thing no matter where you are you should visualise it as if you were looking head on, like the image above. Whether you remember clockwise or righty-tighty. I kinda use my hand movement too, when tightening the finger and thumb cross over a certain way, the opposite for loosening. I'm sure we all have our own tricks.
There's no hope. 
