I have a couple of questions as it turns to Spring and we are involved in several projects. Is there sufficient demand/ interest for more of the grey tint Fiero door glasses as in the past? It has been more than a year since we have offered the grey tint. The factory green tint are available in limited supply @ $160 ea, same as 2014 pricing. Please send me a pm at info@prosourceglassintl.com if you need or would want some in the coming months and I will look into turnaround time. We sold out of over 25 sets of the grey tint and many more of the green tint and I thank you all.
Second question:is there sufficient interest/d emand for roof glasses to be remanufactured? We would need at least 25 orders to even make it possible. i have no pricing, possible production or turnaround time. I know some folks have asked by phone and email how hard it is to come by so i would explore. I would need to know what brand of glass on the original and if needed for a sample if someone would offer a used one in turn for a new one at no charge if we go that route. It is best to email at above or during the week call 877-345-2800. if I am unavailable please leave me a message at ext 100 and I will get back to you as soon as possible. We receive hundreds of emails from our everday glass industry customers so sometimes these projects become secondary but the goal is to get it done in a timely manner.
I read part of the thread on the GT quarter windows and was thinking that should be able to be produced reasonably and correct fit but that is of interest possibly down the road. Thanks for your support. Our family has been in the automotive glass industry since 1953 so we only survive by doing it right.[b][/b]
Originally posted by prosource: I read part of the thread on the GT quarter windows and was thinking that should be able to be produced reasonably and correct fit but that is of interest possibly down the road. Thanks for your support. Our family has been in the automotive glass industry since 1953 so we only survive by doing it right.[b][/b]
Would these be made with glass or the same original polycarbonate material? Would they also have the same type of original printing for the dot matrix portion of the quarter windows?
Thanks Prosource for the update on info regarding another run of fiero door windows and now possible sunroof glass.
One challenge is the GT quarter windows...would you have the expertise with the type of plastic used for these windows?
I am willing / interested in supplying a used OEM factory GT window for R&D sample in exchange for a new GT window if successful. I have the passenger side.
Thanks for the interest towards the fiero and support for the source of glass.
Thanks Prosource for the update on info regarding another run of fiero door windows and now possible sunroof glass.
One challenge is the GT quarter windows...would you have the expertise with the type of plastic used for these windows?
I am willing / interested in supplying a used OEM factory GT window for R&D sample in exchange for a new GT window if successful. I have the passenger side.
Thanks for the interest towards the fiero and support for the source of glass.
I really was more interested in the door glasses at the moment and possibly roof glass, but if there is a need for the quarter windows too right away i could put some work towards it. Corwct but I am assuming we are talking 2 different things. I was looking at the glass windows found on the GT modeld right? VS the polycarbonate plastic pieces found on he other models? I stay away from the plastic. If it is the glass windows with a small curve, I need to know some particulars before accepting the sample used. Who made the window originally so i can see if tooling exists and confirming they are curved. As for the dot matrix, tempered glass it woul have to be done the same as OEM as long as they have the original specs. Is here demand for 25 sets of the GT quarterer glasses? Let me know and I can try to get some info first before pursuing. Thanks RIchard
I'm can't currently afford new door glass for my Fieros but I love that they are now available. Both of my cars could use new glass.
Does anyone have any pictures of the grey tint, or know how dark it is?
If you email at info@prosourceglassintl.com, I can send you an attachment of pictures i have on file of the actual ones we had. I think it is about 3-% tint coefficient, not real dark but a nice grey tint. By law since it is a fron tdoor glass they cannot be much darker, the factory would not produce as they know the appllication.
I really was more interested in the door glasses at the moment and possibly roof glass, but if there is a need for the quarter windows too right away i could put some work towards it. Corwct but I am assuming we are talking 2 different things. I was looking at the glass windows found on the GT modeld right? VS the polycarbonate plastic pieces found on he other models? I stay away from the plastic. If it is the glass windows with a small curve, I need to know some particulars before accepting the sample used. Who made the window originally so i can see if tooling exists and confirming they are curved. As for the dot matrix, tempered glass it woul have to be done the same as OEM as long as they have the original specs. Is here demand for 25 sets of the GT quarterer glasses? Let me know and I can try to get some info first before pursuing. Thanks RIchard
Thanks for the response Richard. Yeah, those windows are marked with a white sticker on each GT quarter window. Its says LexaMar Corp. Some member in another thread stated the same findings, and name I searched online. Looks like this company is still listed as a public company based in Michigan supplying the automotive sector.
Here is the address.
Lexamar Corporation 100 Lexamar Drive Boyne City, MI 49712 Phone: (231) 582-3163
These are the for the 86-88 Fiero GT "fastback" quarter windows behind the glass windows your are currently reproducing. (just not so we get mixed up) I'd be happy to send you an e-mail with a furnished picture of exactly the quarter window I am talking about. This quarter window is likely the most wanted part that fiero owners are craving for to be reproduced, including myself. Nobody has been able to complete the project to supply many thousands of fiero owners in need of replacement. The curve of these quarter windows need to be strictly respected due to the fiero's body shape. That's why they are curved. A strait window doesn't cut the cake. Some folks say they have a green tint, but I can't confirm that. They look clear to me...but I will check back to see.
I am interested in purchasing 2 pairs of door windows in the near future, and that would be shipped to Canada. I will call in directly and speak with you upon order.
I love the grey tinted windows I bought last year, thank you. I have factory green tint on one car & the grey tint on the other, I like the grey tint better.
Just to be clear since your question was not answered directly, the GT rear quarter windows on the fastback body were made of plastic. There are some "decent" copies available, but none are really spectacular.
I might be interested in a set of gray windows, but not right now. Have too many projects going on.
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Even if Prosource can not make the GT fastback windows in poly, but could in glass I would think a lot of people would be on board. Might be a few pounds heavier, but I would think it would be more scratch resistant and wouldn't crack after years of being out in the sun like the poly ones. I'd be a tad bit worried about mounting and them staying in place going down the road though. Count me interested if you plan on making any of these with the correct for matrix and curves whether they are glass or poly.
I just finally got my grey tinted windows installed this past week. What a huge difference! No more widow scratches and replaced the slow motors as well. Add the new dew wipes and inner felt pads and the windows are like new. I'd strongly suggest the grey tint over the green. Matches nice with the black sail panels! Very happy and the containers say pinkerton, who if you call directly want over $300 for each glass! Would definitely recommend getting a pair of new glass from prosource even if you aren't ready to put them in yet. Took me almost a year to get them in, but you can't beat being able to look out your side windows and it doesn't even look like there is glass in the way...NICE! 100% satisfied!
We may be able to mount the glass quarter windows like the brackets are mounted on the sunroof. Someone could more then likely make up new mounts for it or maybe use some of the special sunroof bolts and nuts.
I think it would be a step up to have glass quarter windows, especially if we have a source to buy them from.
We may be able to mount the glass quarter windows like the brackets are mounted on the sunroof. Someone could more then likely make up new mounts for it or maybe use some of the special sunroof bolts and nuts.
I think it would be a step up to have glass quarter windows, especially if we have a source to buy them from.
Hi: thanks to all for the correspondence. It becomes overwhelming when we try to do too much at once. I appreciate the info and input. First off, we are going to try to get the grey tint door glasses remanufactured within the next 3-4 months so folks can plan accordingly and some can save funds just in time for summer. i will update you regarding the confirmation. As for the roof glasses if anyone wants to send me some info and realistically if there is a demand we might look into with the manufacturers. No way on the chopped door glasses by us. We are not geared for making the tooling but I can suggest a company, Alan Auto Glass that does a lot of custom work for the tv/ movie industry. He can make the tooling and door glasses out of laminated so they can be cut down to the size needed. It is not cheap I am sure but if there is sufficient demand for a few sets it will bring the price down. Lee, the owner can be reached (in Burbank, CA) at tel 818-845-7300 or see below correspondence that transpired yesterday. Thanks, Richard
We have a tool for DW 1013 and can make these any size. We would slump to stock size and trim to needed size. Doors are another story. We would need to make 2 tools for R&L doors. Make to stock size and trim to needed size. Then make lower channels to accommodate mounting to stock hardware. Lot of work in this. We are doing 05 infinity doors for a project in Canada , Q35 2door. Will send pics to show what we are doing. Lee
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On Mar 14, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Info <info@prosourceglassintl.com> wrote: I cannot imagine it would be worthwhile to do so economically for the few needed. If money is not a big issue, contact Lee at Alan Auto Glass in Burbank CA. He can make a laminated version which can be cut down from an original door glass. His email is AAAGLASSS@aol.com. I have copied him on this . The Glass Part#’s are DD6717 and DD6718. Thanks, Richard
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From: Josh Bishop [mailto:josh.bishop.m@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:16 PM To: info@prosourceglassintl.com Subject: Chop top glass for the Fiero
Would you be interested in making glass for chopped Fiero?
@ Richard: Yea, a few things got muddled in this thread, so it is hard to pick / read between the lines.
Hopefully this will clear up a few things:
First, as mentioned, the Quarter windows on the GT are indeed plastic. even to make them out of glass, it would take a significant bit of time, effort and tooling. They are an odd shape, and have a distinct curve from front to back, and top to bottom, that varies as the window progresses towards the rear. For instance, the top to bottom curve at the back of the window is far less than at the front. That said, I think there could be a very good market for these. Right now there are no perfect solutions for us.
Unfortunately it must also be said that with this community, commitment is difficult to say the least. Sorry to say, but it is 100% true, and given an hour could produce links to countless threads proving it. If you get 100 people saying they will purchase glass quarter windows if you make them, maybe 10 will actually step up to buy them after you make a huge investment to produce them. About the only way or you to make this would would be a group buy, paying up front in some sort of escrow account, you make the windows and ship to fulfill the commitment. If you are unable to make the windows, a full refund would be in order. That way you have the full commitment and payment up front to cover the initial run.
As for sunroof glass, I do not see that big of a need for it personally. They are "static" and do not get scratched with the up and down movement on the guides and such. My sunroof glass for instance is original (29 years old), and all I had to do to make it look brand new was a high speed buffer with some polishing compound, and new hardware all around from the Fiero Store.
As for the door glass, thank you for filling a huge need in this community. On top of that, offering 2 variations. Thank you!
@ Richard: Yea, a few things got muddled in this thread, so it is hard to pick / read between the lines.
Hopefully this will clear up a few things:
First, as mentioned, the Quarter windows on the GT are indeed plastic. even to make them out of glass, it would take a significant bit of time, effort and tooling. They are an odd shape, and have a distinct curve from front to back, and top to bottom, that varies as the window progresses towards the rear. For instance, the top to bottom curve at the back of the window is far less than at the front. That said, I think there could be a very good market for these. Right now there are no perfect solutions for us.
Unfortunately it must also be said that with this community, commitment is difficult to say the least. Sorry to say, but it is 100% true, and given an hour could produce links to countless threads proving it. If you get 100 people saying they will purchase glass quarter windows if you make them, maybe 10 will actually step up to buy them after you make a huge investment to produce them. About the only way or you to make this would would be a group buy, paying up front in some sort of escrow account, you make the windows and ship to fulfill the commitment. If you are unable to make the windows, a full refund would be in order. That way you have the full commitment and payment up front to cover the initial run.
As for sunroof glass, I do not see that big of a need for it personally. They are "static" and do not get scratched with the up and down movement on the guides and such. My sunroof glass for instance is original (29 years old), and all I had to do to make it look brand new was a high speed buffer with some polishing compound, and new hardware all around from the Fiero Store.
As for the door glass, thank you for filling a huge need in this community. On top of that, offering 2 variations. Thank you!
Many thanks for all the info and condensed in form. I actually did not realize that the rear quarters were plastic, I always thought the GT had rear quarter windows. I know I have seen a few GT's over the years but it has been a while. The Fiero community has been real good although it takes a while for enough folks to actually step up but in the long run over the course over the last 2 years we did quite a few sales. For smaller margins to make it worthwhile for us it would need to be sold and turned over a little faster. Let me see what we are going to do with the info, possible sample and so on for the plastic/ glass rears. I appreciate the fast responses and see what we will do very soon. Richard
What John says is true, however with your reputation if you were to make a GT quarter window to the correct curves with the quality you put into your other parts, I would be willing to put a down payment on them if it was needed (I'd expect payment to be returned if you didn't make them). I'm sure there is enough demand where others would do this as well.
I love the grey tinted windows I bought last year, thank you. I have factory green tint on one car & the grey tint on the other, I like the grey tint better.
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Originally posted by zefferk:
I just finally got my grey tinted windows installed this past week.
I recently (finally) finished installing my OEM tint glass that I bought in December and more than happy with the glass as supplied - no more scratched side windows and would recommend them.
I am not sure if there would be a lot of demand for the roof glass though - even in my area those seem to be some what easy enough to find (never mind down in the US).
The Lexan GT 1/4 windows, I would be all over those if a quality repro was made, doesn't hurt to have spares of those.
What John says is true, however with your reputation if you were to make a GT quarter window to the correct curves with the quality you put into your other parts, I would be willing to put a down payment on them if it was needed (I'd expect payment to be returned if you didn't make them). I'm sure there is enough demand where others would do this as well.
Agreed. Maybe run it on Kickstarter to see if enough people buy in to make it work financially.
One thing about glass though: It would change the forces on the window and the tape that holds in in place. It's one thing to use tape to hold a 10 ounce piece of Lexan in place. It's another to use it to hold a three pound (breakable) piece of glass in place.
We could always try the butyl urethane caulking we use on our windshields. Someone used that to put the lean ones back into my GT after having it painted. When I went to replace them with a reproduction one I got tired of trying to cut the cracked delaminated sails out so I tried kicking them out. Long story short, had to go back to cutting because they didn't budge. So we could try that, and I'm sure we could figure out a clip system as well. Glass would likely hold up better if retained properly.
One thing about glass though: It would change the forces on the window and the tape that holds in in place. It's one thing to use tape to hold a 10 ounce piece of Lexan in place. It's another to use it to hold a three pound (breakable) piece of glass in place.
Couldnt we use the same wiondow sealer they use on windshields?
Maybe. But (although I'm no expert) I expect that the wind load on the sail panels is different than the windshield- the force from air rolling off the roof could create a force that tries to push them out, which does not happen with the windshield.
I would be interested in the GT quarter windows also.. But in the exact replacement of OEM and the dot matrix with the exact measurements of stock and not warped with the curves of the plastic... GT logo in exact......well, you get the picture... Sorry to be so demanding but I think I could say for all.. That's why we hold out. I wish someone on this forum actually worked at the quarter window factory location... So they can explain how to mold a curviture in the plastic and have the dot matrix not warp during the process of making them. Or maybe we're just overthinking this... There's a Fiero member on here, pokeyfiero, that has already produced a CNC mold for the windows with the correct size and curve... There's a picture of the first run on page 4 in the link below.. But need to figure out the correct printing method. Here's the link to his thread.. The windows look great! I think. Prosource, Maybe you can partner up with him and get these going..? Thanks for helping us in all that you do
This is all interesting, a bit too much at the moment but will revisit in the coming weeks (after tax season/ Spring etc). I will keep all posted Thanks for the info..
I think I just quoted last eve to Sask for the grey tint.. $88 and change to Canada. Of course if you have a US address of a friend/ relative it would save you at least $30-40 freight and the brokerage fees.. something to think of. Richard
