It's fun to wonder if the Fiero would have been somewhat like this in later generations. I think we all know the answers to what the future could have held but this video is still fun to watch.
But the Banshee was just a show car and really had only reality in the ideas and not so much in the execution.
I have seen this car and while the option ideas were later used and show cased there little of the styling would have worked even toned down a lot. This was one of the last real dream cars as GM started going to show cars that were much closer to production soon after this car arrived.
Note too the GM 80 platform version of the original 1990's GTO concept not the blocky orange one shared some of the styling with this too. It was one step closer to production but it too would have been toned down more. It was AWD too.
The 1964 Pontiac Banshee XP-833 sure looks like a cross between the '68 Vette and the Opel GT. The same stylist must've been involved with all three cars.
Gotta say that I don't like the Pontiac treatment of the rear end though.
The 1964 Pontiac Banshee XP-833 sure looks like a cross between the '68 Vette and the Opel GT. The same stylist must've been involved with all three cars.
Gotta say that I don't like the Pontiac treatment of the rear end though.
The 64 car was started in 1962-63 by John Delorean and was built and designed by Bill Collins of Pontiac. Keep in mind GM was just launching the 63 Split window Vette.
Delorean was targeting the Mustang with this car as it was priced with in $100 of the stang but Chevy wanted Pontiac to have no part of this car. Sounds familiar does it not?
Anyway this car was not killed as it never even had a chance. Both the coupe and convertible were created up by Collins and were intentionally lost in the Tech center storage where they were later sold and purchased buy Collins and another employee that was alerted to what was inside the create.
As for the 68 Vette it was not designed by the same person but it is accepted by the Corvette people as being an influence on the new car and to this day is the only non Corvette car ever invited to the Bloomington Gold meet the grandest Corvette gathering in the world.
The same for the 68 Opel as it carries similar lines but was not designed by the same guy.
Both cars today are owned by private collectors.
Note the tail panel was directly carried over to the 68 Firebird and GTO by Deloreans call.
Originally posted by hyperv6: The 64 car was started in 1962-63 by John Delorean and was built and designed by Bill Collins of Pontiac. Keep in mind GM was just launching the 63 Split window Vette.
Delorean was targeting the Mustang with this car as it was priced with in $100 of the stang but Chevy wanted Pontiac to have no part of this car. Sounds familiar does it not?
Anyway this car was not killed as it never even had a chance. Both the coupe and convertible were created up by Collins and were intentionally lost in the Tech center storage where they were later sold and purchased buy Collins and another employee that was alerted to what was inside the create.
As for the 68 Vette it was not designed by the same person but it is accepted by the Corvette people as being an influence on the new car and to this day is the only non Corvette car ever invited to the Bloomington Gold meet the grandest Corvette gathering in the world.
The same for the 68 Opel as it carries similar lines but was not designed by the same guy.
Both cars today are owned by private collectors.
Note the tail panel was directly carried over to the 68 Firebird and GTO by Deloreans call.
Good stuff.
I see some of that car int the 70+ Bird too.
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Originally posted by JohnWPB: WoW! Before texting and driving.... there were steering wheels with 26 buttons on them! LOL!
Between all the buttons on the steering wheel, dash (right behind the steering wheel), door panel, and seat, in my Avalanche, there are just as many buttons. And that's the Chevy. The Cadillac Escalade Platinum has a few more buttons with a heated steering wheel and such.
Pontiac for years were mocked for all the buttons in a SSEI. My SSEI had something like 8 plus buttons just for the power seats in the console. It looked like a calculator.
It's fun to wonder if the Fiero would have been somewhat like this in later generations. I think we all know the answers to what the future could have held but this video is still fun to watch.
Great video! The 88 Banshee is still one of my all time favorite cars. Absolutely beautiful from every angle, and the peek of 80's "futuristic" styling.
Everyone has seen Knight Rider 2000 havn't you........ That is the car they used in the Movie as the NEW, KITT its an 80's / 90's B movie, but still nice to see the car used a lot.
I think you are right on the stealth part. I watched it not too long ago and was a little dissapointed that when he (kitt) stomped on the gas, it was front wheel drive.
Right near the beginning of the movie - Doc and Marty have just landed in the back alley in "the future", the rain has stopped and they've exited the Time Machine.
Marty looks down the alley toward the old Town Hall and the Banshee drives by.
Right near the beginning of the movie - Doc and Marty have just landed in the back alley in "the future", the rain has stopped and they've exited the Time Machine.
Marty looks down the alley toward the old Town Hall and the Banshee drives by.
My wrong info above has been removed sorry about that, and really disappointing to find that out.
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Frankly I think the car is hideous. What good lines it has are lost in the sea of bleh. Nothing about it makes for a good sports car, from what I can see. Rather, they play with luxury quirks like motorized (heavy) interior adjusters and putting as many buttons on it's dash as they can. It probably has 800 miles of wires bundled up behind the dashboard. By the way, their GPS navigation system has got to be a lie, because computers back then took twenty minutes to render one single frame of that type of animation... Not to mention the way it was showing other vehicles, complete with 3D representations of their shape... and I don't think there was a roadway database like there is now. 4 seats? Nope. And what about those "recessed" wheels? I hate that look, where they stick the body 5 inches out over the wheels. I guess they didn't have the "Pontiac Wide Track" back then. I do like the shape of the wheelwells otherwise. I bet its very heavy, handles like a dog, overheats, uses parts from a Chevette, and could be out run by a VW Bug. Hum now that I think about it, back in the day I never saw that car being shown on the track or other such bragging rites.
Ok, I'm frumpy about GM and their 'concept cars' that didn't seem to have a goal other than to be weird. That car would only be fun for getting looks, but not so great to drive.
I give the Banshee a 2 out of 5 stars. It is obese, confused, and unrealistic. I will not ride that Pontiac.
Nothing about it makes for a good sports car, from what I can see.
Hum now that I think about it, back in the day I never saw that car being shown on the track or other such bragging rites.
Was this version of the Banshee foreseen as a "sports car"... or was it perhaps more so a glimpse into the future? Not every car is designed for the track.
Was this version of the Banshee foreseen as a "sports car"... or was it perhaps more so a glimpse into the future? Not every car is designed for the track.
It was a performance commuter vehicle concept. It was to showcase design and technology that Pontiac, at the time, thought would be relevant 15-20 years in the future, and which they wanted to bring to the F-body platform.
And if you look at the current Corvette, ATS, or Suburban/Escalade, they have every single feature shown in the Banshee, save for speakers embedded in the seat, and side mirror delete. Seat speakers was an 80s/90s novelty that nobody does any more, and side mirrors are a major safety concern, for which no manufacturer has a feasible plan to replace on a wide production scale. The current GM lineup though, also has a lot more features than what were shown in the Banshee. DVD, BluRay, USB, Bluetooth, and so many other technologies, didn't exist, or were not thought to be fiscally viable for production vehicles.
If the Banshee were to be built today, the exterior might look roughly the same, but the interior, ergonomics, suspension, and powertrain would all be quite different.
Right near the beginning of the movie - Doc and Marty have just landed in the back alley in "the future", the rain has stopped and they've exited the Time Machine.
Marty looks down the alley toward the old Town Hall and the Banshee drives by.
