Is Pontiac Fiero the most customized and modified car/vehicle platform ever built? The Fiero platform has been used for numerous Kit Cars, Exotic Replicas, Meras, Zimmer Quicksilvers, Concept 2000 GT's, Motorcycle Trikes, and countless engine conversions. Is there any other mass produced production vehicle that has been more popular for vehicle conversions and transformations than the versatile Fiero? http://oppositelock.jalopni...-equivale-1483308940 Feel free to list more unique Fiero permutations.
I would also add 55-57 Chevy, 67-69 Camaro and the Fox body Mustang to that list. Fiero may be one of the most versatile, but it was very low production compared to the others listed. There were 15 million(!) Model T's.
------------------ 1986 SE Aero coupe.
3.4 DOHC swap is complete and running, now just have to finish the rest of the car...
I would suspect that there have been more VW mods than Fiero mods. Only because there were more VWs built, and for a longer period of time. Don't forget all the VW based dune buggies, sand rails, and other rebodies.
Of course, you can buy enough pieces from the aftermarket that you can build your own VW engine (or probably an entire car) without ever owning an original VW part. You can't really do that with a Fiero. (Mark Corbin made the same statement about the Corvair, but they're not nearly as popular as the VW.)
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Fiero production numbers are too low for it to beat out much longer running cars. Model T and VW have already been mentioned. I would imagine either one of those would take the title. Ford built over 14 *Million* Model T's between 1909 and 1927. http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/fdprod.htm
14 Million cars that have been around for over a century compared to about 370,000 cars that have been around for 30 years.
Do a Google search for "Fiero" and you get about 789,000 results. Do a Google search for "T Bucket" and you get over 6 million.
No contest.
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I think he is talking about variety and the many different "cars" a Fiero had been turned into - not raw numbers.
Even with that criteria, the Fiero does not come close to the beetle. Google "pontiac fiero kit car" - 54,000 results, "vw beetle kit car" - 1.25 million results.
The beetle just had tons more made and was around a lot longer. Everything from dune buggies to super car clones were made from the beetle platform.
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Originally posted by mrfred8: Even with that criteria, the Fiero does not come close to the beetle. Google "pontiac fiero kit car" - 54,000 results, "vw beetle kit car" - 1.25 million results.
The beetle just had tons more made and was around a lot longer. Everything from dune buggies to super car clones were made from the beetle platform.
Anyone stick a V8 in the rear of a VW bug without it lookin weird ????? A lambo clone with an aircool engine
why would you stick a v8 in a vw to make a super car. the Porsche 911 setup bolts in. its used in many clones. the body literally unbolts from the floor. one reason people have also stuck bug bodies on truck frames. The vw has the largest uses out there and most versatility. The aftermarket community is still building many upgrades. you can take a 1950 vw and bolt on rack and pinion electric power steering 4 wheel disk brakes coil over suspensions. Motors are up to 3liters bolt in with turbo setups. On the v8 subject. I have seen motors put in on a tube chassis that located in the front with a transmission down the center to a rear diff. Its completely under the factory body and with tinted windows up and just looking at the body it would look stock.
Just for customizing, Corvettes have a huge following and aftermarket. Custom Corvettes google search turned up 614,000 links. Modified Corvettes got 671,000. Simply google Corvette and you get a mind boggling 558 MILLION hits.
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Hot Rod also put out statistics on the most common cars to attend Power Tour. It confims 55-57 Chevys, 67-69 Camaros, and Mustangs dominate the list. I think the Fiero still needs to be accepted as a classic before it could be added to that list. Local clubs getting Fiero specific or 80s specific classes added to shows really helps.
At the Pontiac IL all Pontiac show NIFE was able to get our own class and we had 13-14 Fieros show up. I know we had a lot of people stopping by asking about them even when surrounded by 100s of GTO, Lemans, Firebirds, etc.
Growing up in the 70s I can say without a doubt bugs win for total number of bugs converted and the number of varieties! I had friends with;rolls royce,flower power,rail buggy,speed buggy,dragster running 10s,supper buggy,gattor with pto propeller,and my favorite, the friend who had seen they float but his door seals were shot so it was labeled the VW submarine!
Don't forget about older vehicles like the 32 Ford. That thing has been a classic hot rod/project car for DECADES. It may not have the variety of the Fiero, but I will say it is customized far more often.
Don't forget about older vehicles like the 32 Ford. That thing has been a classic hot rod/project car for DECADES. It may not have the variety of the Fiero, but I will say it is customized far more often.
The Model T is pretty high up there in total production numbers at something like 16.5 million.
VW Beetle was about 21.5 million though, and VW Golf has sold over 24 million.
Ford F series pickup and Toyota Corolla have both sold more than that though, over 25 million.
So next time you see someone driving a Corolla with chrome plated non-functional stick-on vents, remember that it's probably the most customized car ever built.
Originally posted by Napoleon_Tanerite: Don't forget about older vehicles like the 32 Ford. That thing has been a classic hot rod/project car for DECADES. It may not have the variety of the Fiero, but I will say it is customized far more often.
Uh.... That's what a Model A is....
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Originally posted by Thunderstruck GT:
I guess I'll partake in this antique thread.
The answer is..... Fat chance!
There were millions of Camaros, Firebirds and Mustangs built and a good percentage of them got and get customized on a daily basis.
Hell, even an old Model A is more customized than a Fiero ever will be.
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VW by a long shot holds that offer and the Fiero while it has many modified cars is way down on the list compared to many cars like Mustangs, Camaros and many other cars made in much greater numbers.