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t-top mystery by Michiganman
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I have t-top glass that the po says came from a fiero he cannibalized. The glass is 2 inches bigger (front to back) than my c&c fiero tops. Was there a bigger kit available for the Fiero?
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Report this Post08-25-2014 08:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
sounds like he confused "fiero t-top" with "firebird t-top" .....
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Report this Post08-25-2014 08:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hyperv6Send a Private Message to hyperv6Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The kits and factory tops were all the same accept for the one piece and two piece gaskets.

The glass is one size fits all.
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Report this Post08-25-2014 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IndyellowgtClick Here to Email IndyellowgtSend a Private Message to IndyellowgtEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ya know... I was saw a pic years ago of a ttop Fiero that had glass that went beyond the seals and all the way to the roof line,meaning there was no rear molding.. it had the front
Molding,then glass all the way back to the rear clip... It was shrugged off by some Fiero guys that I know. I lost track of the car and don't know what ever happened to it..
While I agree that all the ttop cars had the same set up,I'm willing to believe that there are possibly some 'proto' glass/roofs out there..
Not only would the P seal have to be relocated,the center bar,and glass bars would have to be longer as well... interesting,,,
I know fieroparts.com here in Maine got the actual ttop assembly straight from C&C years ago.. was quite a piece of history to look at...
Post up some pics of the glass,or better yet find a ttop car and see if that bad boy looks like it could drop in there.....

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Originally posted by Indyellowgt:

Ya know... I was saw a pic years ago of a ttop Fiero that had glass that went beyond the seals and all the way to the roof line,meaning there was no rear molding.. it had the front
Molding,then glass all the way back to the rear clip... It was shrugged off by some Fiero guys that I know. I lost track of the car and don't know what ever happened to it..
While I agree that all the ttop cars had the same set up,I'm willing to believe that there are possibly some 'proto' glass/roofs out there..
Not only would the P seal have to be relocated,the center bar,and glass bars would have to be longer as well... interesting,,,
I know fieroparts.com here in Maine got the actual ttop assembly straight from C&C years ago.. was quite a piece of history to look at...
Post up some pics of the glass,or better yet find a ttop car and see if that bad boy looks like it could drop in there.....



I saw that car too. It was a green (I think) 88 GT. Was for sale in the mall, here.
Those roof panels are probably two of... maybe four in existence.

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Edit - The car was for sale in the Mall. The seller was curyan910.
I don't know who the buyer was.

Here are some pics.





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Report this Post08-25-2014 11:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for StrappadoClick Here to Email StrappadoSend a Private Message to StrappadoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
that doesn't look too bad. wonder how well it seals?
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Report this Post08-25-2014 11:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AL68Click Here to Email AL68Send a Private Message to AL68Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I saw an 88 coupe at a u-pull-it earlier this year that looked like that. The glass was gone, no rear bar & the rear seal looked like someone modified a garage door bottom seal to fit it.
I thought someone tried to fit Firebird glass on it.

I grabbed a few of the remaining t-top plastic pieces, the dome light assembly had a cover that fit over it after the corners were cut off.
Maybe an aftermarket kit?
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Report this Post08-26-2014 08:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'd be curious if the car had the RPO code for T TOP.
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Report this Post08-26-2014 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IndyellowgtClick Here to Email IndyellowgtSend a Private Message to IndyellowgtEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Nice work,Raydar!
I don't know about you,but that looks A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN STOCK!

Where did that glass come from ?!?!?!?!
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Could the have taken a Mustang top and them put the side part from the Fiero on the glass some how?

The back gasket looks like something non production but it works.

I to am curious on what they used for the glass.

I know the last T top that was installed was just like all the other kits. and the early prototyped was just like the last kit. The only deviation was the gasket on the factory cars.
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When I get my t-top car back from painter I will set the "mystery" glass on it to see if it would fit with the rear trim removed.
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Originally posted by Indyellowgt:

Nice work,Raydar!
I don't know about you,but that looks A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN STOCK!

Where did that glass come from ?!?!?!?!


Thanks! I liked the way they looked, too.
Looks like they had a different kind of wind seal instead of the fabric P-seals as well. I'm specifically looking at the rolled... whatever it is, between the header trim piece and the weather seal. I don't recall that being on the "normal" installation.

IIRC, one of the other pics posted on his album (it's still on Photobucket) showed a C&C emblem.
I suggested in the original owner's thread that he might want to contact Tim at fieroparts.com and see if he knew anything about the odd design, but he was more interested in just selling it.
In retrospect, I wish I would have bought it, but it was too far away and I generally don't buy cars sight-unseen.

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maybe a modified glass from camaro/firebird. Glass is the same, but the locking attachment was used from a Fiero
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Thanks! I liked the way they looked, too.
Looks like they had a different kind of wind seal instead of the fabric P-seals as well. /Snip/ He might want to contact Tim at fieroparts.com and see if he knew anything about the odd design, but he was more interested in just selling it.
In retrospect, I wish I would have bought it...


I remember telling Tim about it,and he immediately discounted it...
I know I have two ttop cars and I have never liked the way the rear moldings and P seal looks in the back.. even the front moulding is hokey...unfortunately, the ttops have that aftermarket sunroof look to them.. not seamless.. but that larger glass would certainly help that... as long as you don't wind up with a leaker,rattler and a whistling roof in the wind... uhhh wait,they do that anyways!
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Originally posted by Michiganman:

When I get my t-top car back from painter I will set the "mystery" glass on it to see if it would fit with the rear trim removed.


Hey,Michiganman. That would be excellent.. please share with us your findings..
If it isn't too much trouble,maybe you could get us some dimensions of the glass,some pics from different angles and any other info about them so we can all go into junkyard mode and start scouring for this glass!

What color are you getting your car done in? So nice to have a freshly painted rig.....
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Hey,Michiganman. That would be excellent.. please share with us your findings..
If it isn't too much trouble,maybe you could get us some dimensions of the glass,some pics from different angles and any other info about them so we can all go into junkyard mode and start scouring for this glass!

What color are you getting your car done in? So nice to have a freshly painted rig.....
Mark

I will measure and photograph with comparison pics of my known Fiero t-top glass.
I'm painting my car "1980 trans am metallic gold" (can't remember what GM calls it)

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Report this Post08-28-2014 08:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for IndyellowgtClick Here to Email IndyellowgtSend a Private Message to IndyellowgtEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Nice! Thanks!
Post up pics of the car too. Should look sweet!
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Car back from paint today. Here are comparison pics of t-tops. The mystery t-top is 22" wide across bottom edge. 24-1\2" across top. Dimension from window to center spine is same as the stock '87 t-top.
PO is still positive the t-tops in question came from a fiero. ??????????????????????? Whuddayathink?

http://s255.photobucket.com...photos/library/t-top

P.S. busy putting the trim back on. Paint turned out good.
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Hmm pics don't wanna work for me..
Hopefully we can get a shot of the glass and your freshly painted ride up.
Thanks for sharing! Kinda stoked about this glass...
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PO is sure the ttops came from a fiero. Anyone else have a suggestion before I let this thread die?
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That looks like a T-Top Glass from a Dodge Daytona, and they removed the rear plastic trim on the Fiero to make it fit.

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Thanks for the suggestion. Sure would like to find out so I can sell them.
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Report this Post11-10-2014 12:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AL68Click Here to Email AL68Send a Private Message to AL68Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
There's an 84 with 38k on Craiglist now with no rear trim, glass all the way back to the painted top.

Owner says he has paperwork, maybe has info on the T-tops?

84 fiero

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The header trim looks to be wider than the C&C standard Fiero t-top piece. I wonder if this is from another company, or an early version of a C&C top, maybe a few prototypes exist.... It would be nice to see the paperwork.

(I was taking about the CL list, btw).

Also, I wonder if C&C went with smaller panels for ease of storage in the vehicle.

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Report this Post06-30-2015 08:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ardenQClick Here to Email ardenQSend a Private Message to ardenQEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
To clear up some confusion the ttop kit was from C&C and was their earlier kit made for fieros. I installed it back in the day.
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Cool, you found the thread
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To clear up some confusion the ttop kit was from C&C and was their earlier kit made for fieros. I installed it back in the day.


Cool! I never believed that the longer glass pieces were anything other than an early kit designed for the Fiero.
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You better keep an eye on that Fiero. There are 2 other gentalmen looking for their long lost love...

//www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/092410.html Sold this car a while back... looking for an update on it, if you're on here by curyan910
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Found this pic from the Chicago Tribune from July 1984

I think it answers where the longer tops came from.
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I think it answers where the longer tops came from.


Cool. Still from C&C.
Apparently they revised the design some time after '84.
Interesting. I'll bet those are a b!tch to find parts for.
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Yeah, no kidding, good luck trying to replace seals on those.
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Here's the news clip that was with the photo.


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