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Motor Trend Recognition by Pegasus88GT
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Report this Post08-19-2014 05:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Pegasus88GTClick Here to Email Pegasus88GTSend a Private Message to Pegasus88GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not sure if anyone saw this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8pOA8dNMSU

Make sure to vote here:

http://www.hagerty.com/arti.../08/18/Cult-Classics

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The Fiero is popular because it is the ideal mid engine platform for a hot rod. What other make of car has experienced the amount of modifications that Fiero owners have done. As for the Corvair, it is a piece of unsafe junk. I once owned one years ago and in the rain going around a turn the rear end has a habit of ending up in front of you. Real scary in traffic. I would not touch one with a 10' pole. It is unsafe at any speed.

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Report this Post08-19-2014 06:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jimbolayaClick Here to Email jimbolayaSend a Private Message to jimbolayaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So which one of you guys is the one that walked into his stereo shop with the Pegasus tattoo? You know it had to be one of us.

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Voted for the corvair! Just kidding
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Bump. This needs to be in O/T as well.

Can't let a Corvair beat us.

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Originally posted by Fats:

Bump. This needs to be in O/T as well.

Can't let a Corvair beat us.

Brad


I don't know I am torn, the Corvair was, well the Corvair and it was on one of Nader's hit lists for it being something he felt was unsafe, besides I had a girlfriend who had a convertible one and I really loved her but hated the car, but it was easier to get laid in than the Fiero.
I don't know but I guess seeing I already voted for the Fiero I should just let it stand, or can I vote again and change my mind.

Besides I do have the Fiero model in question and it has never left me stranded, YET. Oh ya by the way you can vote repeatedly.

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Was it just me or did those guys seem real uncomfortable when they were describing the cars?
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Report this Post08-20-2014 12:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for zzzhuhSend a Private Message to zzzhuhEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I feel like these guy's were kind of forcing the enjoyment with the two car's. It's like they were pretending to enjoy em. I doubt either of them know about this site, nor REALLY know about the community.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

The Fiero is popular because it is the ideal mid engine platform for a hot rod. What other make of car has experienced the amount of modifications that Fiero owners have done. As for the Corvair, it is a piece of unsafe junk. I once owned one years ago and in the rain going around a turn the rear end has a habit of ending up in front of you. Real scary in traffic. I would not touch one with a 10' pole. It is unsafe at any speed.



My first car was a 65 Corvair Monza. Great car, loved it. I had no issues with handling at all; rain, snow, ice, dry, dirt, gravel.....
Ralph Nader did the car a great injustice with his criticism of the handling.

Dennis, IMHO your comments rank right up there with "Don't all Fieros catch on fire?".

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The Corvair, just like the Porsche 911 and any other rear engine car is subject to "snap" over steer when pushed to the limit or when the steering is over corrected. The Fiero does not have the problem to the same degree because its center of gravity is further forward like the Porsche Cayman. The more power the rear engine car has the more likely an inexperienced driver will reach the limit and experience "snap" over steer.
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From the Hagerty link "The Pontiac has the mid-engine 2.4L “Iron Duke” inline four. "

2.4?
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Corvairs are awesome. I'd own for sure if I had the room.
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My first new car was a Corvair,a 1964 Monza.GM had a car that came with my engine(I think it had 102, maybe 110 hp)all the way up to 180 hp that,if I remember right,ran in the 12's at the dragstrip. I had an instruction book for puttinga a small block where the back seat was.There are probably some V8 Corvairs still out there.I remember mine handling like it was on rails going around tight curves.

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I learned to drive in my brother's 63 Corvair Monza four speed.
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An ex brother in law of mine had a 67 Corvair with 140hp, it was fast but I remember that he and other Corvair owners added weight to the front by putting a bag of sand or cement in the front trunk because the front was so light.
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I voted for the Fiero, but I did own a Corvair convertable w/ 110 hp engine w/ 140 hp dual exhaust. Sounded great.

Two interesting cars to compare. Both drive very different, my corvair had the 2 speed powerglide auto. I enjoyed driving it as a cruiser. Would not say it was a sports car.



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Originally posted by olejoedad:


My first car was a 65 Corvair Monza. Great car, loved it. I had no issues with handling at all; rain, snow, ice, dry, dirt, gravel.....
Ralph Nader did the car a great injustice with his criticism of the handling.

Dennis, IMHO your comments rank right up there with "Don't all Fieros catch on fire?".


As my post indicated I once owned a Corvair too and I experienced the "merry go round" effect first hand more than once. Take a sharp turn in the rain with that car and it more than fishtailed. I am fortunate that I wasn't killed. Plus that car was in the shop every other week. Having the engine and transmission in back of the rear wheels makes this car very dangerous. All Corvairs were built this way but if you believe that its a good design I'm not telling you not to buy one!

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:


I once owned a Corvair too and I experienced the "merry go round" effect first hand



I did 2 360s on a curved bridge once on a wet road, somehow missed everything in my path. I think I may have pooped myself at the time. X%X%!
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So I went and voted when I first saw the thread, but I just now watched the video. Good lord both of those guys are ANNOYING.
That video is definitely better as text only.

 
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As my post indicated I once owned a Corvair too and I experienced the "merry go round" effect first hand more than once.


Did you have the tires inflated to 32psi all the way around?

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I like both of them but the Fiero is the one I own for a reason. Besides I can go almost anywhere in it that has a road while our Corvair we had not so much, if it broke down you were screwed every time!
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Can't decide. Maybe I'll vote for the Fiero, since I like the earlier Corvair design better. I've always liked the 1986 SE 2M4 cars with factory aero fascias.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

The Fiero is popular because it is the ideal mid engine platform for a hot rod. What other make of car has experienced the amount of modifications that Fiero owners have done. As for the Corvair, it is a piece of unsafe junk. I once owned one years ago and in the rain going around a turn the rear end has a habit of ending up in front of you. Real scary in traffic. I would not touch one with a 10' pole. It is unsafe at any speed.



The same thing happens to lots of people who can't drive to save their souls.
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when do they reveal who won the voting?

Love both cars but had to vote for the Fiero. Go Fiero!
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:


As my post indicated I once owned a Corvair too and I experienced the "merry go round" effect first hand more than once. Take a sharp turn in the rain with that car and it more than fishtailed. I am fortunate that I wasn't killed. Plus that car was in the shop every other week. Having the engine and transmission in back of the rear wheels makes this car very dangerous. All Corvairs were built this way but if you believe that its a good design I'm not telling you not to buy one!




Just FYI... i've done this twice, in the rain, and once autcrossing. It can happen to anyone really. The rain one was really, really, really bad. Taking a moderate left, and all of a sudden the back just kept turning, but I was ready to go straight, it pulled me into the oncoming traffic lanes and spun me all the way around the other direction. The car stalled, and I sat there shaking for a few minutes before I built the courage to start it up and drive it again.

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We lost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipCNoHzpmg


too many people who know nothing about fiero's voting.
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Found this while looking for something else, look behind the Fiero:

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