Does anyone know how to get a title for a car, where the title is lost and the car hasn't been registered in 20 years.
I know the car is not stolen. It's not a fiero it's a 66 mustang, that has sat for 20 or more years. The original owner passed away and the owners daughter can't find any paper work. She wants it gone but before I take it I want to make sure I can get a title.
Find the administrator of the estate, the person who had power of attorney, or the next living relative in order of widow, oldest child to youngest child. The vehicle would have passed down through inheritance if there was no designated recipient in his will. The state of Ohio may still have record of the original title and can issue a duplicate. The person who inherited the car can sign the title over. Check with your Department of Motor Vehicles or whatever agency issues license plates to get the exact requirements.
check the local laws for having a bonded title issued. or if you are good friends with a trustworthy local mechanic, see if they would be willing to do a mechanic's lien on the car. I had to do one to get a title for the wife's Camaro after the previous owners screwed it up rendering the title useless, fortunately I owned my own shop and had a lien expert on staff...
Ohio is generous with only a $5 late fee if you don't transfer it within 30 days. In Texas it's up to $150. It's all about the revenue. They want the sales tax every time a vehicle changes hands. I did one for $1 and they still collected the 6 cents.
There are ways to get a title. Nationwide companies will do all the paperwork for you and you just take the paperwork down to the DMV for your state.
In state.... Dup title can be calling/visiting state DMV etc as above. They should call DMV anyway. Sold/inherit to another state... Call DMV in other state BEFORE you sign the copy title.
Why?How they sign the title can matter. Often not as simple signing a name. May need extra documents too.
I had inherit one from NJ year back, admin is from VT, DE won't accept title because admin had sign it wrong. I have to mail the title back, they sign correct way per DE rules and mail back to me. Even that, they were a pain.
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Ohio is one of the hardest states to get a title in from what I have experienced... I have had a few Fieros that I had to get a title for. You need a mechanic to put a lien on the car. Then the state may or may not get back to you and there is nobody to call for the status. Also you need the title to scrap a car or you have to find a junkyard that will take it (and they give you about 50% of the scrap value without the title). Last car I had I couldn't get the title so I just parted and scrapped it. I don't know if I would do it again...
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Why?How they sign the title can matter. Often not as simple signing a name. May need extra documents too.
They are cracking down.... In Texas now a signed title is not enough... you need that AND a bill of sale or the seller has to sign the title application. Just went through this a month ago, they won't budge without having both documents. And if the transfer took place over 20 business days you get hit with a fine. So if you have a car sitting around with just a signed title you are SOL unless all you want to do is scrap it. Yes it can still be done but you have to use extraordinary means.
Originally posted by jscott1: They are cracking down.... In Texas now a signed title is not enough... you need that AND a bill of sale or the seller has to sign the title application. Just went through this a month ago, they won't budge without having both documents. And if the transfer took place over 20 business days you get hit with a fine. So if you have a car sitting around with just a signed title you are SOL unless all you want to do is scrap it. Yes it can still be done but you have to use extraordinary means.
Yeah, it is a crackdown because it is big money. Ohio loves to tax you over and over for the sale of a car. If they think the price is too low on a title... then watch out. They will call you, the buyer/seller and try to bully you into admitting to a higher price...
OHIO is a royal PITA. Its now almost impossible to even get a mechanics lien. Since you know the owners family, Id say you need the next living relative to apply for a duplicate title and supply a copy of a death certificate for the titled owner. Then he might get a copy that they can sign over to you. Be careful all the info, addresses, names, etc are all done correctly or you have to start over.
Next is Oklahoma. I bought a car that had been broke down and parked for over ten years. He had the title. I still had to pay for registration for the whole time it sat (10 years of registration fees) before they would give me a current one. I even gave them a notorized letter from the owner saying it had not been driven in that 10 years because it didnt run. I paid more for tags than the car.
Yeah, it is a crackdown because it is big money. Ohio loves to tax you over and over for the sale of a car. If they think the price is too low on a title... then watch out. They will call you, the buyer/seller and try to bully you into admitting to a higher price...
Texas has closed the price loophole as well. They will automatically put the price that they think the car is worth on the title transfer regardless of what you paid for it. And you will pay the tax on their made up number.
Yes it is all about the money. Their should be no tax on a used car. The tax has already been paid when the car was new. But they want a cut every time the vehicle changes hands.
Yeah, it is a crackdown because it is big money. Ohio loves to tax you over and over for the sale of a car. If they think the price is too low on a title... then watch out. They will call you, the buyer/seller and try to bully you into admitting to a higher price...
Ive gotten great deals buying old cars, and usually sell them for really cheap. DMVs contacted me several times to verify prices buying and selling.
Originally posted by jscott1: Texas has closed the price loophole as well. They will automatically put the price that they think the car is worth on the title transfer regardless of what you paid for it. And you will pay the tax on their made up number.
No, Not "made up." Many States use NADA Retail price to calc taxes.
NADA guides still list old cars, like 1926 old... NADA Average Retail for Fiero is ~$3500, Low Retail ~$1400
This stops selling cars $1000 but BoS says $1 to avoid taxes.
In Texas, yes, signed title, bill of sale, and/or the form from DMV are all needed now.
You can't even send a car to the crusher in Texas without a title anymore. Used to be,that if the vehicle was in pieces, they would take it--no more. Some scrap metal yards may let you by, but most won't.
Ohio done away with the 'Gift' sales where you can sell a car to a relative or friend for $1.00. Now you have to 'sell' it to them for a legitimate value.
Ohio done away with the 'Gift' sales where you can sell a car to a relative or friend for $1.00. Now you have to 'sell' it to them for a legitimate value.
Not true. I just got my 2001 toyota tundra from my father as a gift. I paid no taxes on the transfer even though the value is $9,000. I literally did this in the past 60 days.
Texas still allows an exemption for transfer to an immediate family relative. But anyone else forget it. If my car is cut up and only worth scrap then NADA is a made up number as far as I'm concerned .
Not true. I just got my 2001 toyota tundra from my father as a gift. I paid no taxes on the transfer even though the value is $9,000. I literally did this in the past 60 days.
Thats not what I was told by the DMV when I tried to do it a month ago (mid May) when I picked up my latest minivan. They told me they dont do it anymore. I had to fill in a plausable amount before they would give me a title, so I made it $800.
