Been kicking a new swap around and im looking at options and don't know much about the 3800 turbos and streetabilty for a D/D..
Kinda like a ls4 auto---or the 3800 sc auto.
but was looking at what kinda Hp/Tourk could be achieve,but wasn't sure about the turbos..I know I can achieve better numbers with the turbo over the supercharged,but at any cost as a D/D,and how much more cash?
Been kicking a new swap around and im looking at options and don't know much about the 3800 turbos and streetabilty for a D/D..
Kinda like a ls4 auto---or the 3800 sc auto.
but was looking at what kinda Hp/Tourk could be achieve,but wasn't sure about the turbos..I know I can achieve better numbers with the turbo over the supercharged,but at any cost as a D/D,and how much more cash?
It could be relativity the same cost as the SC depending on what turbo you use. You really just have to research and catch some deals.
Drivability should be the same or better as the SC. Set a budget and HP level and go from there.
You can realistically achieve 350HP-600HP with a Turbo but the SC tops out around 380HP.
The HP level will determine how big of a turbo you need and if a CAM is warranted along with other supporting mods & upgraded transmission.
You must decide where you want to mount the turbo and what intake you are going to use.
IMO, the rear mounted turbo is the easiest as you just need to buy the Turbo Adapter flange off ebay.
Other than that you will have to come up with a custom turbo headers solution as there is NO off the shelf product you can buy.
The rest is normal 3800 SC stuff and universal Turbo plug and play stuff.
IMO, LS4 would be the ideal daily driver b/c of the cylinder deactivation. You should also consider the LSJ / 2.0L Ecotec Turbo. This engine makes a ton of TQ and gets great fuel economy (which is important when you have a tiny gas tank...) The most important thing is to figure out exactly what you want the car to be. Do you want just a D/D, or a 1/4 mile terror, or a twist track terror, dyno queen, show car, all of the above? The "old timers" on this forum know the best / most economical / least painful DIY, etc... way to get-r-done. I wish I would have known about this forum in 2005 to ask the questions you are asking, it would have saved me tens of thousands of dollars and years of time.
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Been kicking a new swap around and im looking at options and don't know much about the 3800 turbos and streetabilty for a D/D..
Kinda like a ls4 auto---or the 3800 sc auto.
but was looking at what kinda Hp/Tourk could be achieve,but wasn't sure about the turbos..I know I can achieve better numbers with the turbo over the supercharged,but at any cost as a D/D,and how much more cash?
Turbos will outdo superchargers in torque and horsepower. They are fairly cheap to get into... price depends on many th8ngs and you will pay for big power and big brand names under the hood.
I don't know any thing about the ecotec...but that seems pretty cool
I would be using the car as my DD and wont be planning to race her,but would like to romp down on it from time to time realy like to give my buddys stock C6 a surprise
The trunk can go or stay I don't care.
Would like to go auto and have to keep AC...I like the clean minimalist approach of installs
400 rwhp or up would be my goal.
I am good with oldschool SBC,but have no experience with SC/turbo..
I can do some fab work but would have to farm out as much as I can.And have no ideal of fine tuning the pcm so would have to have that done for me. I know it wont be cheap,but that's why I was looking for some more resource materials to learn more about the turbos
I don't know any thing about the ecotec...but that seems pretty cool
I would be using the car as my DD and wont be planning to race her,but would like to romp down on it from time to time realy like to give my buddys stock C6 a surprise
The trunk can go or stay I don't care.
Would like to go auto and have to keep AC...I like the clean minimalist approach of installs
400 rwhp or up would be my goal.
I am good with oldschool SBC,but have no experience with SC/turbo..
I can do some fab work but would have to farm out as much as I can.And have no ideal of fine tuning the pcm so would have to have that done for me. I know it wont be cheap,but that's why I was looking for some more resource materials to learn more about the turbos
Cheap is relative to your pocket book.
400hp can be achieved with almost stock SC everything and decent medium sized turbo.
I have a few questions - What's your guy's thoughts on using a 3800 NA with a turbo? Will the motor hold up if you did not get too wild? Is 350 HP possible and still be relatively dependable? Curious because low mileage 3800 NAs around here are dirt cheap and plentiful where as the 3800 SC are hard to come by in any decent condition. Thanks in advance.
I have a few questions - What's your guy's thoughts on using a 3800 NA with a turbo? Will the motor hold up if you did not get too wild? Is 350 HP possible and still be relatively dependable? Curious because low mileage 3800 NAs around here are dirt cheap and plentiful where as the 3800 SC are hard to come by in any decent condition. Thanks in advance.
From my understanding that would be a straight up no. I had a N/A in my 2001 Monte Pace Car and I did some research. Components are different as in beefed up and a regular N/A engine would just not last long under boost.
I have a few questions - What's your guy's thoughts on using a 3800 NA with a turbo? Will the motor hold up if you did not get too wild? Is 350 HP possible and still be relatively dependable? Curious because low mileage 3800 NAs around here are dirt cheap and plentiful where as the 3800 SC are hard to come by in any decent condition. Thanks in advance.
Nothing wrong with using a NA 3800 for a turbo swap with only wanting to get 350 HP out of it. Recommend using the L-36 if going that route. L-26 can be uses but has been proven to be less durable but I think at 350 HP level it would not be a issue.
Nothing wrong with using a NA 3800 for a turbo swap with only wanting to get 350 HP out of it. Recommend using the L-36 if going that route. L-26 can be uses but has been proven to be less durable but I think at 350 HP level it would not be a issue.
Do you know why the L26 is less durable than the L36, even though it is newer? I'm curious.
The most important thing is to figure out exactly what you want the car to be. Do you want just a D/D, or a 1/4 mile terror, or a twist track terror, dyno queen, show car, all of the above? The "old timers" on this forum know the best / most economical / least painful DIY, etc... way to get-r-done. I wish I would have known about this forum in 2005 to ask the questions you are asking, it would have saved me tens of thousands of dollars and years of time.
..but that seems pretty cool 
