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Need some definitive answers from a Gertag expert by TXOPIE
Started on: 04-30-2014 07:13 PM
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I found a Gertag MUNCIE 282 - 5 Speed, but want to ensure this is the correct one for my GT Fiero before I purchase:



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Nope. That's the wrong bolt pattern, unless you have a Quad 4.
It also uses the hydraulic/integrated release bearing.

Edit - This is the bolt pattern you need. (This is a 4.9, but the pattern is the same.)


Just remember three holes in a row on each side, that would almost form a triangle, except with a flat top.

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Raydar....

Much appreciated.
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Sorry. I know that's not what you wanted to hear.

I can post a pic of the Getrag that I bolted to that engine, but it also uses the later hydraulic release bearing.
If you're looking for a "stock" replacement, it's not what you want.

If you want an "upgrade", it might be worth your trouble to source one of them. (It from the 92-94(?) Corsica/Beretta.)
They have sturdier differential gears and are "supposed to" shift a little smoother.
You'll need Rodney's FWD shift adapters, a Dakota Digital adapter for the speedo signal, and an adapter for the hydraulic line.
Other than the benefit of the sturdier gears, you''ll be able to do away with the problematic Fiero slave cylinder, release lever, and fork.
You might have to enlarge and tap a couple of holes in the casting, for the select cable bracket.
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Jim, look on Car-part.com
I found one out of a Beretta in Dallas.
Paid 200.00 for it.


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Originally posted by TXGOOD:
I found one out of a Beretta in Dallas.
Paid 200.00 for it.


Good find!

That's earlier than mine. It may still have the beefier differential gears. Hard to tell which slave it uses.
(There were a couple of different external slave designs, but that one looks identical to the Fiero's. The later design still had an external slave, but the release arm was internal. Then there was the hydraulic TOB, whcih came even later.)

Edit - That slave setup looks the same as the Fiero's. Sorry for rambling...

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for the beretta trans you will need the kit from rodney and a conversion for the speedometer from dakota digital i had one in a car while i was in hawaii and it would just go. pretty awsome.
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Report this Post05-01-2014 09:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TXOPIEClick Here to visit TXOPIE's HomePageClick Here to Email TXOPIESend a Private Message to TXOPIEEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Guys,

The reason I was asking ...is because that transmission was/is a zero mile NOS transmission.

Much thanks on the input.
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Originally posted by TXOPIE:

Guys,

The reason I was asking ...is because that transmission was/is a zero mile NOS transmission.

Much thanks on the input.


Those were all over ebay 5-7 years ago and some people were buying them to swap some hard parts with the Fiero getrag.
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Report this Post05-03-2014 12:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fast40driverClick Here to Email fast40driverSend a Private Message to fast40driverEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You can swap your existing front case half onto one of those transmissions - IF you want. You will need to re-set the diff bearing shims, might want to swap in the Fiero speedo drive, and will probably need to shorten the reverse shift rail - not a big deal on the rail, hacksaw/grinder will work.You will also need Rodney's kit, or DIY. The gear ratios, however, are not optimal. First is 3.77, with the higher FDR choice, made to start a loaded minivan with a four banger on a hill. You can also swap gears, but you are then pretty well using it for parts.

Mike
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