I dunno, something seems off about the angles of the rear fenders. Could just be the wheels though, its really hard to get a good set of wheels to fill those fenders
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put some wheel spacers on that thing!, then get wrap aroun spoiler to complete the look
Nah the IMSA is one of those things that you need to fill the whole fender, it would look like ass without it, these are the backs of both of mine, kinda need that look to complete the kit
Thanks for the correction Rick, Up until recently, I did not pay much attention to the details behind the wide bodies. So I have this correct though,
DGP made the bodies we see on most "stock" road driven Fieros? OMSA GT mentioned "Dougs"? I'm assuming this is another manufacturer of a wide body? Anything special I need to look for to identify the body? If it runs and drives as claimed and it's not a rust bucket underneath, I'll probably make an offer and try to bring it home. This could be number 12!
Sorry Pontiackid I own the original Stage Two. The one you mention was a race body modified in Colorado to fit a fFero. Mine was the original for the Fiero and meant to copy the Race Body mine was also Stage 1 but quickly rolled in the shop and transformed to the Stage II. My car was every car below. Katatak DGP and Fiero Warehouse kept the DGP stamp in each fender when you look at the bolt on areas up top, Not sure if IRM sanded it off the molds. Rick B
Can't say for sure, but I'd GUESS that there's a possibility that car started out as an IRM (or DGP) wide body kit.
The reasoning behind this is, among the molds/parts that Doug bought from IRM, there were two incomplete panels that make just the ribs to fit in the rear quarter scoop opening.
They are what served as the inspiration for what Fierowarehouse sells as Ribbed IMSA Quarter Panels. I used what came from IRM to produce the center section and grafted it into the L&R quarter panels, which became the plugs used to make the molds that produce the Ribbed IMSA panels that we still sell.
Again, I don't KNOW that the car presented in this thread (the red one the OP asked about) is indeed an IRM wide body, but it looks like it could be, given the facts I've presented here. Never seen another one like it anywhere, but we still have the ribbed sections that came from IRM.
Just a little "trivia"
HAGO!
Edit to add: After having looked at your other post showing the front end, I'd say that it IS an IRM or DGP wide body kit. Couldn't see the front end in the pics in this thread, but the front and rear bumper seperation lines are kind of a dead give-a-way. This must be the car that the ribs were made for. Would be interesting to know the history and if the original buyer of this car special ordered the rear quarter panels with the ribs, or if it was something Jim Sutter just wanted to try.
Nice find!
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Thanks for the replies - No plans to cut this one up. I'm just going to fix the little issues and drive / enjoy it!
Out of all the Fieros I've messed with, I miss the bone stock Formula the most. I get that same "driving enjoyment" feeling with this car. I will give it the care it deserves and will soon be another great example of a wide body.
P.S. Where can I find a set of those wheels like on H.D's car? I also like the look with the stock wing - I'll be keeping mine.
Can anyone tell me what back space or offset I need and how wide of a rim I can use in the back / front?
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Can anyone tell me what back space or offset I need and how wide of a rim I can use in the back / front?
If you plan on staying with a 15"-17" wheel, and stock struts/springs, the rears can be 10" wide. The fronts 8" to 8.5" wide. The kit is 3 inches wider than stock in the rear so with the stock lace wheels being 7" wide, you can add another 3" to the outside of the wheel.
If you go to an 18"-20" wheel, the rears can be as wide as 12" with the proper coilover shocks.
If you plan on staying with a 15"-17" wheel, and stock struts/springs, the rears can be 10" wide. The fronts 8" to 8.5" wide. The kit is 3 inches wider than stock in the rear so with the stock lace wheels being 7" wide, you can add another 3" to the outside of the wheel.
If you go to an 18"-20" wheel, the rears can be as wide as 12" with the proper coilover shocks.
Thanks for the reply - so I'm clear, I can look for a 17" wheel that is 10" wide with the stock offset for the rear and a 17" wheel that is 8 or 8.5 inch wide with stock offset for the front? Sounds easy? Or maybe I'm being overly optimistic?
Thanks for the reply - so I'm clear, I can look for a 17" wheel that is 10" wide with the stock offset for the rear and a 17" wheel that is 8 or 8.5 inch wide with stock offset for the front? Sounds easy? Or maybe I'm being overly optimistic?
That is correct. The offset remains the same for up to a 17" wheel. If you go to an 18" or bigger, the wheel will then clear the rear strut knuckle and then you can move the wheel inwards more which changes the offset.
Thanks for the reply - so I'm clear, I can look for a 17" wheel that is 10" wide with the stock offset for the rear and a 17" wheel that is 8 or 8.5 inch wide with stock offset for the front? Sounds easy? Or maybe I'm being overly optimistic?
Pat- The wheels on my car are Centerline 928's. And as already mentioned, you want 10" wide wheels on the back. My car has 2" spacers on the rear to get the 8" rear rims out where they need to be. My fronts are 7.5". These wheels are EXTREMELY hard to find. I'm still trying to find 10" rears with no luck so far. Congratulations on the buy!
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Exoticse - thanks for those links - lots to wade through.
H.D. thanks for the info on your wheels. I've seen those before for sale but never really paid much attention to them. I remember they were pretty pricey too! Not sure what I'll do for wheel. There are way too many "options". I'm not opposed to wheel adapters or spacers as I've run those on the 4.9 XTC with no issues. I spent most the night last night looking at wheels - my head is fried just thinking about it. Tinkering with the car some more today - I can't take it out in public with these ugly ass wheels that are on there now.
So if I find a 17X10 inch wheel, what do you all think I can do for tire size in the rear? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Tirerack has Sumitomos for $142 each. Here are the specs:
As for wheels, I was looking at these. They sell 17x10 in a 5x100 with a +25 offset which is approximately 1" which would mean you need a 1" wheel spacer........if my measurements are correct: http://www.supremepowerpart...hop_by_category.html
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The very CLOSEST fit I could find is by ESM wheels. They sell stock looking wheels that simply look badass. They have 17x10 in a 5x100 with a 15mm offset which means the wheel is pushed inwards .59 inches. I don't know how much clearance a stock 15" wheel has from the strut knuckle but these MAY be able to be a direct fit. http://esmwheels.com/access/17-c-21_91_34_63.html
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I did find these on E Bay. As a set - 17X8.5 fronts with a 30ET (30mm?) and 17X10 rear with a 20ET (20mm?). To get 30ET (assuming that's the same as 30mm) like the stock GT wheel, I would need a 10mm spacer? All these offsets and backspacing and "ET" boggles my mind. http://www.ebay.com/itm/17x...sh-Lip-/231206538598
I have thought about the XXR wheels before but their math skills scare me. If you have a 10" wheel with "0" offset, the wheel is perfectly centered with 5 inches sticking outward and 5 inches sticking inward from the wheel hub. If you add a 20mm offset to a 10" wheel, that means you will have a wheel that has an offset of 5.78. You will have 5.78" of wheel inwards and 4.22" of wheel on the outside. They list the backspace as 6.29". I don't understand their measurements.
Exoticse - thanks for those links - lots to wade through.
H.D. thanks for the info on your wheels. I've seen those before for sale but never really paid much attention to them. I remember they were pretty pricey too! Not sure what I'll do for wheel. There are way too many "options". I'm not opposed to wheel adapters or spacers as I've run those on the 4.9 XTC with no issues. I spent most the night last night looking at wheels - my head is fried just thinking about it. Tinkering with the car some more today - I can't take it out in public with these ugly ass wheels that are on there now.
So if I find a 17X10 inch wheel, what do you all think I can do for tire size in the rear? Thanks in advance for your replies.
you are welcome,..i also feel your pain on the wheel front. my widebody choptop has had wrong sized wheels for a looong time and i have not even wanted to drive it or take it out until i get that resolved.
lucked up on a cheap set of 3 piece hre wheels and soon i will be proud to wheel her out.
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