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My 87 Fiero GT Thread by rice.1
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Report this Post03-24-2014 09:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rice.1Click Here to Email rice.1Send a Private Message to rice.1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey everyone. I've owned my Fiero for a little over a year now, but I finally just received it this past weekend.

A little backstory. I purchased a silver 1987 GT back in March 2013 in Ohio, where I'm originally from. It was $1500, great shape, 122k miles. I had my brother and his son go take a look at it, and bought it from an older lady without me even looking at it. My brother is very knowledgeable about cars, and even though Fieros aren't his thing, he said he would buy if it they were. That was all it took. I wired the money, my brother picked it up, and took it to my parent's house, where it has stayed the past year.

I've made it home to work on it a few times. During that time, I've replaced the valve cover gaskets, gave it a good cleaning, changed the oil, changed the thermostat, put in new headlight gears, replaced the line for the clutch, got new tires, and replaced the EGR tube.

I also managed to put a crack in the door (worst Easter weekend ever, one of those weekends NOTHING goes right).

Since I didn't have a suitable place to store it and work on it, I decided to keep it at my parents. We recently purchased a house with a barn, so now there was no excuse for me to have it. My brother and his boy trailered it out to Indiana this past weekend.

I've been putting together a list of things that it needs. I don't know if it will be road worthy by fall, since I've got only an hour or two a night (if I'm lucky), and playing softball on the weekends. Since we purchased a farm and my wife still has animals back in Ohio, we are working around here trying to prepare for them. Also have our first kid on the way in October, so this may be an long project, haha.

Anyway, here's a list of things it needs done. I'll keep this page updated as I work on it. If anyone has advice, or parts for sale, I'd appreciate it. Being on here for awhile, I've learned so much, and also purchased parts from a few folks already.

-New battery
-Replace vacuum lines
-Suspension
-Diagnose clutch issues
-Repair leak in coolant line
-Replace heater core
-New trunk seals
-Clean carpets
-Clean front compartment, under hood
-Fix knuckleheaded crack in door
-Fiberglass repair in a few areas
-Fix or buy radio
-Replace center console and [strike]install short throw shifter[/strike]
-Swap connector wires to fix pegging temperature gauge needle
-Decklid switch
-Carbon fiber wrap some interior items (I know, some may frown on that, but I like the look of it)
-New brakes and master cylinder
-Install auto dimming rearview mirror
-Fix power locks, and any other interior electronic issues

As I've learned, the work on these vehicles is never finished, so I'll add and strike as I go.

Here are a few photos. Since the battery was dead from sitting over the winter, I wasn't able to charge it enough to get it out and take good pictures, so pics of it in the barn are all I can manage for now. I hope to have better ones soon.















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Report this Post03-24-2014 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroMaster88Click Here to Email FieroMaster88Send a Private Message to FieroMaster88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Nice car.

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Report this Post03-25-2014 07:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rice.1Click Here to Email rice.1Send a Private Message to rice.1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by FieroMaster88:

Nice car.



Thank you. I lucked out with the condition it was in.

I will be placing an order for the vacuum lines tonight from Rodney. Has anyone used them? From the description it sounds like they fit pretty well with the way they are bent already. Will any modification be needed at all?

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I like it! Love the silver GTs

Congratulations.

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Report this Post03-28-2014 10:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FirefighterClick Here to Email FirefighterSend a Private Message to FirefighterEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What a great purchase, nice car. If you want to avoid painting the front (nose) and make it look even better, buy a nose bra from the Fiero store; I believe they only have black ones.
Then you can colorize it to match the car. I experimented with this about 5 years ago and hit on an unusual way to keep the nose bra, new paint and shine flexible.
There is a sort of secret as to how this is done. I did the colorization 5 years ago to my '87 maroon GT and it still looks good.
I f you want the process just email me, - ecoakley@optonline.net

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That is one nice car you got a steal of a deal.

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Originally posted by Firefighter:

What a great purchase, nice car. If you want to avoid painting the front (nose) and make it look even better, buy a nose bra from the Fiero store; I believe they only have black ones.
Then you can colorize it to match the car. I experimented with this about 5 years ago and hit on an unusual way to keep the nose bra, new paint and shine flexible.
There is a sort of secret as to how this is done. I did the colorization 5 years ago to my '87 maroon GT and it still looks good.
I f you want the process just email me, - ecoakley@optonline.net

Ed



I appreciate it Ed. I think I'm going to skip the bra route if I can avoid it. That's interesting that you can color them to match the car. I didn't know that was possible. When I'm ready, I have a guy I work with that paints vehicles, so I think I'm going to have him do some work for me.

 
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That is one nice car you got a steal of a deal.



Thanks Boogaloo. I purchased it off an older lady. My nephew said she had tears in her eyes when she signed it over, so I assume she treated it like her baby. Like I said, it was in really good shape, and it was obvious she took care of it.

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Report this Post03-28-2014 08:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rice.1Click Here to Email rice.1Send a Private Message to rice.1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Forgot to mention the other day. While changing out the valve cover gaskets, we decided to repaint the covers and upper intake. My nephew actually removed the paint and repainted, as I was tired at the end of the day and he offered to take them home and work on them because he's a night owl. Here's kind of a shot of what they looked like before



and when my nephew brought them back:



and back in the car:



Looked much better.

I decided to do a little work today. I was going to get it out and wash and wax it, but I was having clutch issues. For some reason, I couldn't get it in to reverse to back it out. So I thought it would be a good time to change out the center console and put in my shifter. I then realized I had got the wrong console. Originally, I purchased a dark gray console off a member here. I was thinking my car had the lighter gray interior, so I traded with another member. Unfortunately, after not seeing my car for some time, I was wrong. So, if anyone needs a light gray center console that's in very good condition, I will be posting in the mall here in a bit. And if anyone has a dark gray, I'm in the market for one.



So, the shifter got changed out. I purchased a short throw shifter with a carbon fiber knob off another member.



And here it is installed. I really like the look of it and how it feels compared to stock.





If anyone has the little clips that go on the boot pegs to hold them down, that'd be great.

As for my clutch issues, I'm finding with the car off, it shifts fine in to any gear, and don't have to push the clutch in at all. Once the car is running though, I have to fight it to go in to 1st, and I get a grinding trying to go in to reverse. I needed to move the car back a bit, so I just slammed it in to reverse. I got a slight grind, but it went in with a jolt. I know this can't be good for it, so does anyone have any recommendations about what can be wrong? I still need to do some research on it, but it's driving me nuts. I had heard if you shift in to second, it will go in to 1st and reverse. This worked for a little bit, but it just went back to the same issue I'm having now. I'm not familiar enough with this type of transmission to properly diagnose it.

I had also heard the slave cylinder could be the reason, but I've worked on the slave cylinder already, rebuilding it with new parts. So if anyone could point me in the right direction, it be greatly appreciated.

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Started on the stainless steel vacuum lines today from Rodney Dickmans. I believe I found where my leak was coming from. When I went to remove the small 90 degree line, it was torn. I will get a pic of it tomorrow. The small straight rubber fitting was dry rotted as well, so that could have been part of the issue also. When I came to the EGR line, I found I need to shorten it and bend it to fit, so I will go to the auto store tomorrow and get a line bender. Will also use my Dremel to cut the line.

Since it was starting to get late, and I didn't want to go back to town again, I decided to try my hand at carbon fiber wrapping. I just tried the shift plate.



I still have a little trimming to do, and also a couple bubbles. It looked like it was flat on the bezel when I first laid it. The few bubbles I have taken care of, I've made a little slit along the "fiber" and pressed it down, and it smoothes out.

Before I put the ash tray doors back in, I need to repaint them.

Once I get my bender and the rubber fitting, I'll be able to complete the lines and hopefully complete that task. I'm really pleased with the way they look so far, and they've been really easy to put in. Very happy with the product.

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Report this Post05-09-2014 11:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rice.1Click Here to Email rice.1Send a Private Message to rice.1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Haven't had much time to work on the Fiero lately. And I forgot to get pics of the SS vacuum lines before I put the upper intake back in.

My carbon fiber wrapping started coming up on my shift plate, so I purchased a heat gun and redid it. Also wrapped my HVAC bezel and bezel for the aux guages Pretty pleased with the results.

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Report this Post06-06-2014 04:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rice.1Click Here to Email rice.1Send a Private Message to rice.1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Finally got around to fixing my pegging temperature guage. It now functions properly, but I'm still having a high idle, around 2k for a few minutes. I let the car run for about 5 minutes, and it never settled out, so will need to do some more troubleshooting.

I also got my carbon fiber wrapped bezels back in. Still need to get my instrument panel bezel finished.







Unfortunately, I was feeling around the engine, and dipped my fingers into a pool of oil. This was located below the EGR tube, felt like around the lower intake.



So, I'm not sure exactly what it is. Lower intake gasket maybe? It felt like it was on the block.

Felt like I was close to getting it on the road for the first time in a year, but it's back to the drawing board. If anyone has any tips, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Unfortunately, I was feeling around the engine, and dipped my fingers into a pool of oil. This was located below the EGR tube, felt like around the lower intake.



So, I'm not sure exactly what it is. Lower intake gasket maybe? It felt like it was on the block.

Felt like I was close to getting it on the road for the first time in a year, but it's back to the drawing board. If anyone has any tips, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Well oil in that area is most likely coming from a leaking distributor O ring. Easy enough to replace but unfortunately you do have to pull the distributor to do it.

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Check your distributor O-ring. It may need to be replaced and it will cause oil leakage in that area. Your intake looks really good, what paint was used ?

oops didn't see the last line of your post.

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Thanks for the suggestions GT-maniac and Fierophek. I will work on that next.

I will have to look at what paint was used when I get home tonight.
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Report this Post11-08-2014 09:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rice.1Click Here to Email rice.1Send a Private Message to rice.1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I know it may not mean a whole lot to some, but I finally got my Fiero on the road today! After changing out the distributor o-ring, (and changing pickup coil while it was out), I goofed up the timing after putting it back in. So this morning, a mechanic who is a good family friend came over and got the timing set up. While he was in there, he found my vacuum leak. So I filled it up with coolant, since I noticed a small leak, and got her out on the road! This was really my first time driving it in about 18 months, when I first bought it. I also got all the rims cleaned of some corrosion that was causing some leaks around the seals.

It's a little squirrely in the front end (and ironically, I hit a squirrel my first time driving it), but I still plan on driving it to church tomorrow. I only have to go about 7 miles, and speed limit doesn't get above 45, so I'm taking it easy anyway.

Next steps, as long as nothing major goes wrong, is to work on the front end suspension to get the kinks worked out. That may be a winter project, along with new brakes all around. Brakes aren't real bad, but something that will need to be done.

Thanks again for everyone's advice. This forum has been a huge help.

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Posting to save this from the archives.

Car has been sitting in its new home. We got a garage built last summer. Much nicer than being in a barn, and I have a concrete floor to work on now instead of rubber mats on the ground.

Just recently finished the front brake upgrade with the bigger master cylinder, along with new brakes on the rear, and got my new wheels mounted on. Haven't even thought of taking a picture, maybe I can get some on here later tonight.

Next step is the darned vacuum leak I'm still having, as well as diagnosing a coolant leak.
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Any pictures of the brake upgrade or details? Awesome.
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I will try to get pictures posted this weekend. I don't have time at the moment to edit the pics and mess with PIP.

The brake upgrade is what was offered from The Fiero Store. I believe it's considered the Grand Am upgrade. It requires new hubs installed, which are included in the package, along with bearings.

I also installed the bigger master cylinder. Pretty simple to do. Instructions included are easy to follow.

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Report this Post06-20-2016 11:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rice.1Click Here to Email rice.1Send a Private Message to rice.1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Finally got my GT back from the shop a couple weeks ago and driving it around to work some bugs out. Seems to drive pretty well, with just a few minor issues. Shifting has become pretty tough and it's not wanting to go into gear at times. It's actually caused pain in my elbow from forcing it in. Thinking the cables are getting worn, so I have the shift and select cables coming from Rodney, as well as a slave rebuild kit to go to the double seal.

Had a coolant leak on the passenger side again, so will have to change the heater core out when I have time. For now, I just have it bypassed.

I've been having a little stumbling when at a stop and going below 1000 RPM, as well as oil pressure dropping. I need to do some research into what's causing it and what I need to do to fix it. Hoping it's not too bad of a job.

Hoping to have some pictures up soon. I'm not the greatest at remembering to do that. One of these days it will cross my mind when I'm able to locate my camera. Those stars don't align too often.
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Saving this from being archived. Suspected my cam bearings were worn. That was the reason for the dropping oil pressure. My nephew picked up a 3400 LA1 from a junkyard back in Ohio. I'm not sure what it's out of, so still trying to research.

Once/If I get my red 85 SE sold, I will have some funds to progress further on this. Hoping it's soon, as I have some work I need to do on the 3400. Motivation is pretty low right now, and with other projects going on, I need a shot to get me going on this.

So bear with me!
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