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Pontiac Ferrari Convertible by ChuckLS1
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I found this at a auto dealer online. Think it is worth it? http://www.ecoastauto.com/w...ID=1G2PF3799FP218588

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Man that's one really long front bumper, some of the proportions look wrong.

I think it's expensive but then again is the roof and X frame in good shape? I'd guess that alone would be worth about half the purchase price.
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That is a Corson Spyder and is one of the rarest Fiero kits ever marketed. It has been discussed at length here

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It looks like a real bad knock off of a 308 kit.. there is a guy in NJ selling a much better looking kit than that for the same price and I think its on an 88

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Originally posted by pontiackid86:
It looks like a real bad knock off of a 308 kit..


The Corson Spyder is a replica of the 512 Berlinetta Boxer, not a 308.

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Buy it! The Corson Spider was one of the best made kits out there. The kit sold for about $9K when new. Very high-quality fiberglass. 20+ years later and I'm still kicking myself for not buying one off of the assembly line. Obviously check out the damage and see if it is a show-stopper....but this was a fine (albeit shortened wheelbase) kit of the Ferari 512 BBi.

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Originally posted by ChuckLS1:

I found this at a auto dealer online. Think it is worth it? http://www.ecoastauto.com/w...ID=1G2PF3799FP218588


YES!!! Easy fiberglass repairs are all that's needed for you to own a very rare, top quality convertible, at a bargain price!

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The dash looks pretty sweet in it...
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that might actually be corson spyder # 63. many had amber marker lights on the hood in front of the headlights. the pics of 63 don't show the markers.
if i had the cash i would make an offer. most of that looks like a relatively easy fix.
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How much is it really worth? I think a 3800 SC would look sweet in it
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I'm going to say NOT a Corson. Looks like a rip off of it. Some lines are different and the grills are different, too.

I like the interior but I would pass on the body unless that is your "thing".

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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:
I'm going to say NOT a Corson. Looks like a rip off of it. Some lines are different and the grills are different, too.

I like the interior but I would pass on the body unless that is your "thing".


I actually believe it to be a Corson Spyder. The kicker is actually the interior - that is how a Corson looks on the inside.

The thing is the 512 BB replica molds were kept around for some time in various forms over the years. As mentioned above, this particular car varies slightly such as lack of the front markers in the front nose. However that doesn't mean at some point the front cap of the car was changed for whatever reason (say an accident) by utilizing a non-Corson 512 BB nose.

I think it's well worth the asking price. It of course would take sourcing 512 BB body parts and a paint job to get it back right. However you can't pay $6,000 to do that interior and convertible conversion. That alone is worth it.
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Did the Corsons have any markings on panels or any where else

IS there any way of checkin by the VIN #

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Curiosity got the best of me. I pulled out my old Kit Car magazines. It does look as if the convertible car's lines and grills were slightly different than the hardtop version. This is also the correct interior. I stand corrected.

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#63 looks like it has the same rims
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Originally posted by mannysingh:

Where can i get a 512 BBi badge? I could not find one, so i had gotten a 512 TR badge, and does anyone know where i can get a new roof for corson number 63 (spyder)


By the sounds of this the yellow Spyder s his!
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Report this Post10-09-2012 09:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ChuckLS1Send a Private Message to ChuckLS1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here is the VIN 1G2PF3799FP218588 If I get a chance in the next couple of weeks I may go look at it. Its about 2 hours away from me.

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Buy it and put Amidas 512 nose on it and you would start liking it a lot.
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http://www.jtzimages.com/de...2PF3799FP218588H.jpg

Looks like the convertible roof is falling apart. Just above the arm rest, something is sagging.
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Id say thats a pretty decent deal. All I see is some fiberglass repair. Its real fiberglass so its pretty straight forward, not like different Fiero composites. Even if the top is bad, you have a good pattern and any upholstery shop should be able to duplicate it for not too much money. I get OEM Corvette convertible tops in canvas for less than $300. The real 512s nose is longer because there are an extra set of lights in it ahead of the headlites. It appears that Corson did not have all 4 sets.

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Buy it and put Amidas 512 nose on it and you would start liking it a lot.


Perhaps some might find that combination desirable, but you'd be mixing two completely different Ferrari models from different eras. The 512 name pertains only to the engine displacement (5.0L) and the number of cylinders (12)... not the body style. The body style of the 1992 - 1996 Ferrari 512 TR (or Testarossa) which Amida's nose replicates, is completely different than the 1973 - 1984 Ferrari 512 BB or Berlinetta Boxer that the Corson cars replicate. The BB is all curves while the TR is all strakes and angles... IMHO melding the two wouldn't look good, but to each his own.
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Plus, and I'm guessing here, but Amidas nose is made to fit a Fiero. It may not fit a Corson kit anyway.
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Plus, and I'm guessing here, but Amidas nose is made to fit a Fiero. It may not fit a Corson kit anyway.


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Anyone notice the $29K suggested retail price?
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Ahhh the dreaded misplaced comma. It should be suggested retail of $2,817.50.
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Some of the fiberglass looks to be ripped, bent, broken, cracked and distorted. I wouldn't want to be the person trying to put this car body back together again and have everything line up. It can be done but at what cost?

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Could always put a Fiero body back on it.
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Could always put a Fiero body back on it.


Sacrilegious thoughts.

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Buy it! The Corson Spider was one of the best made kits out there. The kit sold for about $9K when new. Very high-quality fiberglass. 20+ years later and I'm still kicking myself for not buying one off of the assembly line. Obviously check out the damage and see if it is a show-stopper....but this was a fine (albeit shortened wheelbase) kit of the Ferari 512 BBi.



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From what I can tell from the photos, to me it looks like a couple of days worth of fiberglass work. I wouldnt think twice about trying to fix all of it.
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I was talking to one of the sakes guys there
He knows its a Corson and they won't budge on price
He told me there might be a problem with doors as they rub against the frame which might mean the frame might be sagging.
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Looks like it may have been sold, it's not on their website anymore.

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He told me there might be a problem with doors as they rub against the frame which might mean the frame might be sagging.


This is always a problem when you make a convertible out of a car not designed for it. The floor pan/ rocker areas must be beefed up with box or round tubing to keep the structural integrity. A local band here bought a 1958 Lincoln for their 'band vehicle', to use for promotions and parades and whatever. It was a hardtop and they just sawzalled the roof off right behind the windshield. They had to jump into it over the doors since they no longer worked at all. You had to put floor jacks under it in the middle to open a door. It had no top of any kind.

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This is always a problem when you make a convertible out of a car not designed for it. The floor pan/ rocker areas must be beefed up with box or round tubing to keep the structural integrity. A local band here bought a 1958 Lincoln for their 'band vehicle', to use for promotions and parades and whatever. It was a hardtop and they just sawzalled the roof off right behind the windshield. They had to jump into it over the doors since they no longer worked at all. You had to put floor jacks under it in the middle to open a door. It had no top of any kind.


I bet that was funny to watch every time they got in - didnt they realise that there maybe a safety issue ?
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The car is still for sale there. http://www.ecoastauto.com/w....php?UniqueID=528597
Never went to look at it. I might take a ride up there next week to look at it.

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That kinda money you can do EVM-rob's 308 kit and still buy a fiero, I like it but it would need a lot of tweaking to get the proportions correct on it. It looks like the aldino. I'd rather but the coupe one thats on Ebay..

you know what though, for the money If i had it id mess with it, i bet it looks great with the top down.

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Originally posted by ChuckLS1:

Could always put a Fiero body back on it.

This is what I would do. Either make it a fast-back or a Mera.
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

That kinda money you can do EVM-rob's 308 kit and still buy a fiero, I like it but it would need a lot of tweaking to get the proportions correct on it. It looks like the aldino. I'd rather but the coupe one thats on Ebay..

you know what though, for the money If i had it id mess with it, i bet it looks great with the top down.



I think there's a reason they don't show it with the top down. Fieros don't have a place for the top to go and it makes a big pile. The automoda top does a better job of it because it has a stowable targa section.
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