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The Rat Returneth by jaymelk2
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I don't think my x frame is doing much other than losing ground clearance which I want.
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That's what I was saying before.. the only thing good about that X frame that Chester got stuck with (and it was Chester's idea to being with not B&B) was to cap off the ends with A&N fittings and use them as coolant tubes (which actually works pretty well).

The rat has a lot of potential.. With the proper car and attention to detail, I'm positive that you can turn it back around into the way it was supposed to be, if not more.. wishing you the best of luck!

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My God...as much like a wet noodle as it is now I'd hate to think how it would be if they had just cut the top loose.

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My God...as much like a wet noodle as it is now I'd hate to think how it would be if they had just cut the top loose.



It must have had a terrible kind of 4-wheel-steering with the chassis twisting around while driving with a powerful V8 in there...

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When I'm done with her I plan on it feeling like it's carved from a block of steel.

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It must have had a terrible kind of 4-wheel-steering with the chassis twisting around while driving with a powerful V8 in there...



AFAIK, Chester never had the rat on the road under it's own power since he got it back from B&B... other than from the trailer to the garage I mean.
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Any new pics ?
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Have you consider welding a new roof back on the car ?
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For about two seconds I did...but I like a challenge!

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For about two seconds I did...but I like a challenge!



"Challenges" usually end up costing big money.

It's OK if you went in knowing this, it's annoying when it bites you in the rear as a "surprise" !!!

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It was a challenge building my v8 car for 2300 too....but I got it done even though I was told I never could

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It was a challenge building my v8 car for 2300 too....but I got it done even though I was told I never could



Sorry, I must have missed that thread. Good luck with this one too!

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Sorry Sound...that was before Pennock days...I made some good buys...and am pretty handy with tools...car with a 372 hp 383 ran me right at 2300 when I was done...my only troubles to date are axles.
Thanks for the luck! I'll probably need it!!

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Got the Rat pulled apart the past few days. Checked out the rust...not too bad, and started scoping out where the chassis reinforcements will be going. Here are some update pics for all to see

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Here are some update pics for all to see


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Pretty oversized sig you have Danyel

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Okay...getting ready to throw this thing out the window. Can't seem to get PIP to work right. Exotisce, I'm gonna send them to you.

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No problem, fire away !
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Little update on The Rat...Got 1/4 inch gusset plated burned in ala Archie. Flex went from 11/16 from full compression to droop to just a hair over 1/8. Also there is almost no twisting flex now either.
Car is very stiff now but I still plan on adding a couple more plates...stay tuned for Rat updates...coming to a forum near you!

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Little update on The Rat...Got 1/4 inch gusset plated burned in ala Archie. Flex went from 11/16 from full compression to droop to just a hair over 1/8. Also there is almost no twisting flex now either.
Car is very stiff now but I still plan on adding a couple more plates...stay tuned for Rat updates...coming to a forum near you!



It was that much? With the weight of the power-train in the car, was it even possible to open/close the doors?

You do have it in a jig of some type to hold the chassis in the place you WANT it to be for stiffening it up don't you?
You certainly don't want to weld everything up only to find you have your dimensions off. Tolerances are +/- 3mm

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Yes Fierosound I made a rack to hold it straight and square while welding the frame. When testing for flex I slipped my engine and tranny combo in her...put 320 pounds of concrete in the floor and raised it at the rear of the cradle...this is what I call compression...then I raised it just under rear of door and put 160 of crete in trunk to see how far it opened. It was just under 11/16. Now all I have is an 1/8 even when I stand in the car also and bounce...pretty good no? Twisting is almost non existant.
I'm going to add more plates under the door just for kicks and I'm welding 16 gauge sheet in between the rails on the sides...gonna start on cleanup of the bay...she's getting smoothed and paint like my last one, plus I'm doing a double firewall for heat and sound as I wished I'd done on my other.
Will be one hell of a car when done...hoping to make Daytona with it next year...I guess we'll see on that.

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Sounds like you have it well under control.

Any pics of your progress so far?
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Just an update for all. The Rat has a smooth and shiny engine bay now...no connectors to show anymore. I've finished reinforcement for now, since last time I added 1/4 plates in front of doors also. Shes coming together..I want to be at the 30th

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Was a pretty good weekend...spent sunday installing sound deadening in the front of the car...a note to all...home depot sells a butyl based peea and seal that works great...lot cheaper than dynamat also. Stay tuned...the 30th is coming

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Pictures ???
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I have sent pics of some of the rust I started with and a pic of my 383 which I'm sliding into the Rat to exoticse. I'll be sending more of the update stuff in the next day or so....thanx all for being patient.

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I have sent pics of some of the rust I started with and a pic of my 383 which I'm sliding into the Rat to exoticse. I'll be sending more of the update stuff in the next day or so....thanx all for being patient.















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Thanks so much exoticse...I'll send some more updated ones in a day or two.
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Had some time for the girl this weekend...pulled and repainted all the front subframe and underhood stuff....replacing brake lines and cleaning the whole front end up...when I'm finished there won't be more than a dozen bolts on her that I haven't pulled. Still shooting for the 30th in Indy. Will be updating with more pics in day or two

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To all who wonder......every....EVERY bolt on the Rat has been removed...cleaned.....polished....painted . I came up with...i must say myself, ingenious idea for the targa top and am presently working on body mods. When finished the car will be truly in a league of its' own.....stay tuned.
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Really pleased to hear you're still working on this project. This is one of those cars that is part of the lore of the forum. Thanks for keeping at it.
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One of these days I need to make a trip to Lousiville to check out your progress. Last time I saw the car was when I picked up the MERA that was at Rob's and the 383 that was in the Dirty Rat.
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Anytime guru....I'm in shelbyville...only about 25 miles from Chester. Did you ever get my pm about the mirrors you wanted? I still have them. The Rat is turning into what it always should have been. I'm shaving trim right now and doing a few other mods I'lldiscuss later. Thanks for the interest...I'll try to update more.

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Anytime guru....I'm in shelbyville...only about 25 miles from Chester. Did you ever get my pm about the mirrors you wanted? I still have them. The Rat is turning into what it always should have been. I'm shaving trim right now and doing a few other mods I'lldiscuss later. Thanks for the interest...I'll try to update more.



That's even better, only 57 miles from me!

I am good on the side mirrors, purchased an 86 GT parts car that had some good ones.
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Well folks....at some point this weekend I'm going to pass two milestones...today I topped the 4000 mark building the car. Sometime this weekend I'll also top 1300 hours of labor on it. It's been a long road but I think I see the end coming.

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I am really excited to see this one come back.

Sounds like you have done a loooooooooooot of work. Congratulations and continued good luck in getting her back on the road.

I think we are all anxiouis to see the new pics.
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So where are the updates?? Dying to see it....

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I've heard some local rumors floating around Jay... PM me...
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Hey rob...sent a pm, don't think it went through...will try to call you this week. I've done many many things to the old girl. Honestly it seems like most here have lost interest in old school stuff except for a couple people who I also need to pm...sorry exot and guru...I've been a little busy. But the rat is looking more bad a** every day.

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Not so much lose interest as forget that there's things happening when not prompted often

Good to hear that the rat is still being tended to.
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