Grrr why does stuff like this come available after I spent my wad for the year!!! I have been looking for a 308 kit for 4 years and from what I see in the pics most of it is there! I would bet you could rob parts of a aldino kit to fill in the blanks. If you do manage to salvage some of this I might be interested next april after tax time again.
I know this is a older thread but... I have complete molds and tooling for the Mera style 308. All body panels, lights, grills, etc. Everything to biuld a complete car. I sell replacement parts and complete kits. Check out my biuld thread on here for pics.
I dropped by, but the guy was busy and hasn't done anything more with the parts. I really think that if someone shows up with some cash and a big trailer, they can have this stuff dirt cheap
Be prepared to spend 1-2 days digging through crap to get all of it, since a lot of the parts are buried withing mounds of crap
Does anyone know if someone ever picked up this stuff? i know it's a really old post and mabey long gone, but it never hurts to ask. Any info provided would be appreciated. Jim
Just thought I'd get back to this thread like I intended to after we got some of the forms sorted out.
It was mentioned earlier that there were forms that "looked" like they might make wide body parts for at least the rear of these cars.
We finally got the forms situated and took a couple parts out. Here are some pics of what they make. Haven't worked with them other than to pull them from the forms and what you see in these pics, but it looks as though with some work, they would lend themselves to a wide body project that several people have talked about doing. You can see where they somewhat resemble the pictures posted in this thread and elsewhere of the outlandishly wide f-car. Not sure what all it would take to adapt them to that end, but they don't look that far off to me. The rear quarters are just kind of held in place with a clamp on the body shown to give an idea of what could be done. There is enough material in them to cut back and graft in as much as you want, or it looks that way to me.
So anyway, here's the pics:
Next are what I'm calling the "wide rockers":
So....there ya go...
HAGO!
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Good stuff, Sage. Is Doug going to be offering the pieces? Idea on cost? I'll have to keep an eye on the rockers. Looks like the 430 parts I want are going to fall thru.
Nice to see Minngreen post, too. One of my favorite cars.
Yea Bob, those parts are available. You'd have to contact Doug. No set price has been determined as of yet.
Like I said above, it's gonna take some work to graft those parts on, and I'm not sure what the end result would be, not having done it, but it looks to me like you'd have to cut out the original wheel wells and graft the extensions in, rather than add them onto the existing quarters, if that makes sense to you. The rockers seem to have an extreme angle at the very back bottom where it "juts" out from under the recessed belt line, but again, you'd almost have to cut away the stock panel and glass these in to see how it would look in the end. Just some random thoughts.
HAGO!
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Can u tell how many inches wider the flairs are (lip to the outer tire sidewall) - how much would u need to move out the wheel or how much wider wheel is necessary ?
Paul: I will get a measurement today of what I'm calling just the "flare", which is from what I can see, what you have indicated in your picture. As mentioned above, looks to me like you could cut back the flare section to include as much or as little as desired. I'll measure the full width of the flare, but I won't be able to tell you how much wider wheel would be needed to bring it to the outside.
Won't be till later, or possibly even tomorrow, but I'll get back to you.
Nice to see Minngreen post, too. One of my favorite cars.
Bob
Thanks Guys! :-) It's been awhile, but I'm still around. I blew up the motor on the GreenGT 450 miles from home, returning from the 30th at Indy last summer. That was kind of a downer, but also good motivation to start the engine swap I've had planned for 10+ years.
I also just returned to the position of VP of the Minnesota Club, and recently my 5-1/2 year old son, Charlie, started asking about working on the car again. So he helped me tear down the Small Block - and it's going to the machine shop in a couple of days!
Paul: Measured today and as near as I can tell, the flare looks like it will add about 4".
Measuring from the point on the panel where the flare or "lip" emanates from, the stock lip protrudes approx. an inch and three quarters to the outside. From the same point on the wide body panel, the lip protrudes approx. five and three quarters inches, so we're talking about adding 4" on each side.
This can only be a "guestimate" since a finished panel with the wide body piece in place doesn't exist at present.
As I said earlier, these panels look like they could be cut up to use any part of or all of the extension, so it would be a truly "custom" addition, left up to the builder to determine exactly how wide one wanted to go.
Rob, was nice seeing you at the 30th, sure didn't expect to hear about your car biting the dust on the way home though! Bummer! Looks like you have a great helper there and a future Fiero aficionado on your hands!
Bob, I might think about doing a build thread if I was actually building....at this point, I'm still pretty much collecting parts and trying to figure out first of all how to proceed, and second, when I'll actually have time to spend doing it.
Take a look at this pic:
Notice anything?
I did. Had never seen any pic of that wide car, other than the red one posted above in this post, that I recall.
When trying to fit the panel onto the body, kept wondering why the "scoop" depression wasn't aligning with the one in the body....now I know why...it goes in the back!
Tomorrow, I'm going to fit the panels to the car in their correct orientation and see what we've got. This also makes more sense where the rockers are concerned. The unusual angle I was talking about earlier, should be "right" when mated up to the opposite end of the quarter panel extensions. Leads me to further believe, we have the molds to produce the wide body parts, as there are also a couple different front spoilers, but I'd have to dig through the molds again to see for sure.
At any rate, if you look at the pics above of just the quarter panels, imagine them being the other way on the car and it'll make more sense.
Live and learn I guess.
HAGO!
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Before starting to play with this stuff, I had only seen the picture way at the top of this thread, which doesn't really show the back of the car, and believe it or not, I had never heard of that wide body kit, so had no reason to ever look it up before.
Shouldn't really change the measurements I got today, as they were made at the center of the wheel well, which is the same, coming or going! But it DOES change the fitment of the new panels to the existing body, and I'm guessing they will match perfectly with all contours, unlike when you try to put them on backwards!
Really is a mean looking machine with all the "girth" happening... You'd have to run some "phat" rims and tires though!
HAGO!
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Ok, here are the pictures of how these panels are SUPPOSED to be on the car.
Didn't clamp the rockers in place, but you can see how they will work together with the quarter panels to create the wide body "look":
Keep in mind, none of the panels are attached to the frame in these pics, they are all just kind of "hanging" there, so nothing lines up like it should/will when finished, but it gives a general idea.
Checked briefly today, and found a mold that makes a chin spoiler that looks suspiciously like the front end of that wide bodied car, but can't say for certain without actually laying one up and that's not in the cards at the moment. Maybe if I can free up some time, but don't see that happening anytime soon either.
So that's where this is at. Anybody interested in any of these parts can contact Doug.
These parts would make a most unusual body, and needless to say, will take quite a bit of work to pull off!
One 'O' these days.................................
HAGO!
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Very cool and tempting for a second car. I'm going to have to think long and hard about this. The ideal thing for me would be to find a Fiero that already has a 308 kit and go from there. Not a project for right now but maybe in the future.
Does anyone know if there are there kits that use the MR2 rear window? It would be nice to find a way to make it look closer to the real deal.
Nolan
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Originally posted by Sourmug: Does anyone know if there are there kits that use the MR2 rear window?
None that I've ever seen or heard of although Archie's gang did retro-fit one in an old Dino kit. There are several good photos in this thread showing how they modified the metal work to mount it: www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/090962-3.html starting about a quarter of the way down.
I'm planning to use the same technique for my F355 project.
Very cool and tempting for a second car. I'm going to have to think long and hard about this. The ideal thing for me would be to find a Fiero that already has a 308 kit and go from there. Not a project for right now but maybe in the future.
Does anyone know if there are kits that use the MR2 rear window? It would be nice to find a way to make it look closer to the real deal.
Nolan
Nolan:
I plan on using the MR2 rear glass when I put mine together. Already have the glass, you can find them on ebay fairly reasonable.
Does take some fabrication though. I don't know of any kit that is made specifically to use it, but if you haven't seen it already, take a look at how Archie and crew did the one in their 246 Dino build:
Ok, here are the pictures of how these panels are SUPPOSED to be on the car.
Didn't clamp the rockers in place, but you can see how they will work together with the quarter panels to create the Koenig "look":
Keep in mind, none of the 308 panels are attached to the frame in these pics, they are all just kind of "hanging" there, so nothing lines up like it should/will when finished, but it gives a general idea.
Checked briefly today, and found a mold that makes a chin spoiler that looks suspiciously like the front end of the Koenig car, but can't say for certain without actually laying one up and that's not in the cards at the moment. Maybe if I can free up some time, but don't see that happening anytime soon either.
So that's where this is at. Anybody interested in any of these parts can contact Doug at Fierowarehouse.
These parts would make a most unusual body, and needless to say, will take quite a bit of work to pull off!
One 'O' these days.................................
HAGO!
what would be a rough price on the wide quarters and side skirts?
------------------ Ethan
1985 Base "The Mongoose" under the knife 472 turbo build
what would be a rough price on the wide quarters and side skirts?
You should probably contact Doug at Fierowarehouse http://www.ovis.net/~dmkfiero/ but, I sent him an email the other day and I'm still waiting on a reply. He may be busy so I'm being patient...
Could you post a top and bottom shot of the rocker?
I'm curious how it mounts... Does it have to be bonded to the stock rocker?
I just realized over the weekend that my panels fit very nicely with the stock Notchie rocker. Still looking for something "different", though and I've been in contact with Doug.
It looks to me like it would have to be bonded on, as I don't remember seeing any official "attachment" points, other than probably being able to rivet or screw up through from the bottom underneath.
That's the roof wing, in case you don't recognize it off the car.
I had to finish it and put the studs in, but it fits well and is foam filled...light weight but solid.
Let me know if you need any other views, angles etc.
I would point out what I said above, these rockers would take some work to install on the stock body. For instance, the bottom rear of the door skins are not round like the opening in the rocker, and the angle of the section at the bottom of the rocker in front of where the tire will be, is only going to line up with the wide quarter panels as is. All of it is fiberglass though, so you know that means it can be readily altered, just have to think it out and put the time in.
It fits on the roof section of the car that I posted in this thread perfectly for reference.
The measurements I get (not "precise" mind you, but pretty darn close ) are:
Looking at the bottom of the "feet" back edge inside to inside (these measurements are based on the "feet" being rectangular rather than oval like they actually are..) is 42-1/2" front edge is 45-1/2"
On the other end of the "foot" or the back edge outside to outside is 44-1/2" front edge is 47-1/2"
If you draw a center line down through the "feet" in the middle between front edge and back edge, and measure between them side to side, I measure right at 45".
The "feet" are right at 1-1/8" wide themselves, in the middle at the widest point, and they are 9-1/4" long.
Let me know if that's not what you wanted, or it's unclear from my description.
HAGO!
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I hate to say it, but I declined a very generous offer by Doug for the pieces. So, if someone is interested, please contact Doug. I'm pretty sure he will make you the same offer.
With the wheelbase fixed (lots of axle work) and the wheels purchased, I just couldn't use the fenders and they need to be sold as a set with the rockers to properly show them off.
Looks like you have a great helper there and a future Fiero aficionado on your hands! 
