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Wheel question by Buck531
Started on: 08-24-2016 08:58 AM
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Report this Post08-24-2016 08:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Buck531Click Here to Email Buck531Send a Private Message to Buck531Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I bought a set of Cavalier Z24 wheels a few months ago. Put some tires on them and they seem ok. However the wheel is only a 6" wide rim so that limits what size tire I can put on them. I was looking at Craigslist a few minutes ago and found these.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/wto/5746961142.html

I also noticed with the cavalier wheels the back seems to sit in the wheel well further than I'd like. Would these fill out the wheel well better? I was thinking of putting 225/50 or 55's.

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Report this Post08-24-2016 09:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Buck531Click Here to Email Buck531Send a Private Message to Buck531Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What it looks like now with the Cavalier wheels.

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Tires are 205/55/16.
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Report this Post08-24-2016 11:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickClick Here to Email PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Buck531:

I also noticed with the cavalier wheels the back seems to sit in the wheel well further than I'd like.


I've run these 1" hubcentric spacers on the back of my '84 duke, and then on my '88 Formula, for the last five years. They bring my Sunfire wheels (same offset and width as the Cavalier wheels) out to the edge of the rear fenders (instead of being tucked in too far).

No loosening of lug nuts has occurred after being torqued down properly, and no added vibration at high speed

205/55/16 tires on the front, 225/50/16 on the back.

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Report this Post08-24-2016 11:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The offset is different. You have to be careful that wide tires don't rub on the rear strut, as the rim may be very close to the strut already. A solution is to use a spacer, as mentioned. I would do this instead of trying to use tires to make them stick out more.
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Report this Post08-24-2016 11:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Buck531Click Here to Email Buck531Send a Private Message to Buck531Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What I want to do is be able to run a wider tire after I do the swap. I doubt the 205/50's will have much grip. This is why i wanted to go to a 7" wide rims so I can stick a beefier tire on it.

I could get the spacer which isn't a bad idea but I'm not sure how wide of a tire I can stuff on a 6" wide rim. I've googled and the cavy peeps are running 225/50/ on the same wheels.
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Report this Post08-24-2016 12:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Buck531Click Here to Email Buck531Send a Private Message to Buck531Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Also, the offset on the CL wheels are 35 MM. It looks like a stock Cavy wheel is 45-47 MM.
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Report this Post08-24-2016 02:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero_AdamSend a Private Message to Fiero_AdamEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I've used 16x7, 38 offset, with 225 50 tires before without issue. The tires are close to the struts in the rear but I had no problems. The wheels you're looking at on craigslist should be fine. I wouldn't use a 225 on your current wheels, though.
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Report this Post08-24-2016 02:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Buck531Click Here to Email Buck531Send a Private Message to Buck531Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yeah I knew 225 would be way too wide for a 6" wheel and that's why I was looking at these with a 7".

Would I still need a spacer to pull the wheel out closer to the wheel well with the ones on CL or will these work ok?
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Report this Post08-24-2016 03:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
http://www.autoanything.com...vs-wheel-backspacing

Sometimes when talking about offset and backspacing the terms get intermixed with eachother.

"Offset is the distance from the center of a wheel to its mounting face"
"Backspace is the distance from the inside edge of a wheel to the mounting face."


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Report this Post08-24-2016 03:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Buck531:

Also, the offset on the CL wheels are 35 MM. It looks like a stock Cavy wheel is 45-47 MM.


10 more Mm of positive offset?

It seems this would be only 3/8 of an inch different.
Then depending on where the rim is wider the extra rim width would come into play.

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Report this Post08-24-2016 05:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Simple rule for tires is the tire tread should be close to the width of the rim. You cant put an 8"-10" wide tire on a 6" rim. You need an 8"or 10" rim. If not it will wear fast and funny, handle terrible and be lucky if it dont pop off the rim in a corner.
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Report this Post08-24-2016 06:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Buck531Click Here to Email Buck531Send a Private Message to Buck531Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fiero_Adam:

I've used 16x7, 38 offset, with 225 50 tires before without issue. The tires are close to the struts in the rear but I had no problems. The wheels you're looking at on craigslist should be fine. I wouldn't use a 225 on your current wheels, though.


Do you have any pics of your wheels/tires?

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Report this Post08-25-2016 01:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero_AdamSend a Private Message to Fiero_AdamEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't have those anymore, but they looked fine. 35 offset works well on the Fiero. In fact, I believe the factory 15" GT wheels are 35 offset, maybe 30 which isn't much of a difference. They're about even with the fenders.
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Report this Post08-25-2016 08:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fastfiero1Click Here to Email Fastfiero1Send a Private Message to Fastfiero1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here is the Fiero wheel info chart I found here a while back. I use this often when planning and helping others.
I don't remember who put this together but they deserve some major Kudos

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