i work at a composites company and have been thinking about making some products for the fiero community. what kind of things would everyone like to see make in real carbon fiber? im doing alot of overlay things to mine, belt moldings, a pillars, dash, b pillars, center caps, ect.. was thinking about putting a couple of layers on the roof (roof is black right now on red car) looking for ideas let me know what you guys think (not doing body parts yet)
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a whole dash wouldn't be cost effective (about $1000 worth of carbon to do it right) though caps like TFS has could be possible. the framework for the center could be done but would be very labor intensive couldn't give a good price on it don't think anyone would buy a $600 piece that you never see lol as for the trim pieces lots of places are making the overlays in carbon (as most people just want the look but i could do them without much problem. i could do lots of different pieces in fiberglass with 2 plys of carbon overlay to keep the cost down if people just want the look but with the real carbon weave.
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Posts: 233 From: Middletown IN 47356 Registered: Nov 2011
im in the process of making an injector cover for the 3.4 DOHC (pics lower in the thread). bigger items that i have to buy large pieces of cloth for would be expensive to make so ill prob start with small things to start
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hercimer01 Member
Posts: 2316 From: Rockford IL. Registered: Mar 2008
if i do an overlay set it would be everything including vent trim and dome light and more than likely door handles. ill start gathering up mats for it this weekend and see what i can come up with. is there such a thing as too much carbon lol
How about a drop in cover for the bottom of the trunk? Making the bottom half hidden and the top shallow storage. A nice piece of large black and blue weaved fiberglass would look nice.
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Posts: 4181 From: Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA Registered: Apr 2008
How about a drop in cover for the bottom of the trunk? Making the bottom half hidden and the top shallow storage. A nice piece of large black and blue weaved fiberglass would look nice.
good thought. I've been wanting to make a block off piece out of 1/4" plywood or something and cover in with factory carpeting. but I haven't found the time. a carbon fiber one would be cool and weigh less
Originally posted by 701GT: im in the process of making an injector cover for the 3.4 DOHC going in my 88 GT will try to get some pics up this weekend of work in progress, i get small pieces from work all the time so smaller items don't cost much to make. bigger items that i have to buy large pieces of cloth for would be expensive to make so ill prob start with small things to start
I'd be interested in seeing pictures of this myself.
If we're just going for the carbon look, but with a fiberglass base I'd like to see something along the lines of Sofa King's ideas but with a carbon outer layer.
It's a great starting point for some cool designs. click here
He has some great ideas and some ideas I could live without, but I love the cup-holder!
I agree that there are already carbon overlays if you want to stick it over your stock look (The Fiero Store even has them in different colors), but nothing like the real thing.
im in the process of making an injector cover for the 3.4 DOHC going in my 88 GT will try to get some pics up this weekend of work in progress, i get small pieces from work all the time so smaller items don't cost much to make. bigger items that i have to buy large pieces of cloth for would be expensive to make so ill prob start with small things to start
I was thinking of something like this as well for my car. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.
Nolan
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got a pretty large piece of carbon today (3' x 8') so im going to try to get some stuff done this weekend, still waiting on the high temp resin to come in for the injector cover should be here tomorrow
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hercimer01 Member
Posts: 2316 From: Rockford IL. Registered: Mar 2008
in full carbon fiber !! the black molding on a fast back that is on the back side of the sail window its all black on all cars would look great in carbonfiber with carbon fiber overlays on the grills or also out of carbon fiber !!! some one post pics of what i am talking about !! I was going to do this a wile back but couldent find anyone to do it ...
another sugestion 3800sc valve covers in carbonfiber if done well you will sell alot of them ......
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the black molding on a fast back that is on the back side of the sail window its all black on all cars would look great in carbonfiber with carbon fiber overlays on the grills or also out of carbon fiber !!!
another sugestion 3800sc valve covers in carbonfiber if done well you will sell alot of them ......
Would love a set of qtr window inner CF trim pannels!
Valve covers might be cool too; but duno how they would hold-up to oil/heat/vibration over time. They would also have to be designed really well to prevent any leaks...
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Posts: 233 From: Middletown IN 47356 Registered: Nov 2011
i like the inner fastback panel idea that woudnt be that hard for an overlay, making them entirely out of carbon wouldnt save much weight they are light now and the valve covers would be very expensive to produce
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in full carbon fiber !! the black molding on a fast back that is on the back side of the sail window its all black on all cars would look great in carbonfiber with carbon fiber overlays on the grills or also out of carbon fiber !!! some one post pics of what i am talking about !! I was going to do this a wile back but couldent find anyone to do it ...
another sugestion 3800sc valve covers in carbonfiber if done well you will sell alot of them ......
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Posts: 233 From: Middletown IN 47356 Registered: Nov 2011
i looked at the seat mech covers on mine and think i will make a mold rather than do an overlay. it will be much stronger that way but will require 8-10 plys so will be more expensive ill start work on it next weekend and keep everyone posted
someone used to make carbon fibre headliners .i could go for one of those .you could make a mold by adding resin and cloth to an old headliner with the fabric removed .i know this would be expensive but since very little structural strength is required 2 layers would be enough .i saw a picture of one once and they look really nice .
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Chris Hodson Member
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Here are the items I would like to see: mirrors covered quarter windows (coupe and GT) cig lighter surround center console door dash map pocket all bezels vent covers end caps shift surround headlight surrounds (the black plastic that shows when they are up) dome light surround headlight/dimmer switch bezel defroster/trunkpop bezel seat recline covers seat recline handles seatbelt covers (by speakers) fuel filler door rear trunk tail lamp caps
all I can think of off the top of my head. Can't wait until the Rottinchop is ready for some Carbon Fiber...or the Bluechop for that matter!
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Posts: 233 From: Middletown IN 47356 Registered: Nov 2011
if i like the way it looks when its done i may make one entirely out of carbon, didnt want to waist alot if i didnt like the look so did an overlay first, the other option is stainless i like the way it looks too. also thinking about doing a ribbed one would kind of look like the top of a quad 4 only with "24v 3.4 DOHC" instead of "16v QUAD 4 DOHC" like this one
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if i like the way it looks when its done i may make one entirely out of carbon, didnt want to waist alot if i didnt like the look so did an overlay first, the other option is stainless i like the way it looks too. also thinking about doing a ribbed one would kind of look like the top of a quad 4 only with "24v 3.4 DOHC" instead of "16v QUAD 4 DOHC" like this one
That would be something I'd be interested in purchasing.
Nolan
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