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Need some math help by Loki
Started on: 12-26-2013 11:14 AM
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Report this Post12-26-2013 11:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LokiSend a Private Message to LokiDirect Link to This Post
Need to figure out the internal volume of the following (building SEOS MTM speakers).

I know a 10" diameter tube at 12" long is roughly 0.55 ft.³. But I am going sealed and need 0.22 ft.³. So thinking maybe 8" long??????
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For a 10" diameter tube, every inch in length is about 0.045 ft^3 of volume so 5" in length is about 0.22 ft^3.
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Report this Post12-26-2013 11:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilSend a Private Message to PhilDirect Link to This Post
Try about 4.8"
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Report this Post12-26-2013 11:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ZebSend a Private Message to ZebDirect Link to This Post
Pi times radius squared times height is the volume of a cylinder.
1728 cubic inches in a cubic foot. So .22 cubic feet would be 380.16 cubic inches.
Radius of a 10" circle is 5", squared is 25. Times Pi (3.142) = 78.54 square inches
The volume you want (380.16) divided by the area (78.54) = 4.84 inches tall.

You made me do that on my day off? Just 'cause you can't google "volume of a cylinder"?
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Oh I can Googe. I just like being an ******* . Enjoy your day off


 
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Pi times radius squared times height is the volume of a cylinder.
1728 cubic inches in a cubic foot. So .22 cubic feet would be 380.16 cubic inches.
Radius of a 10" circle is 5", squared is 25. Times Pi (3.142) = 78.54 square inches
The volume you want (380.16) divided by the area (78.54) = 4.84 inches tall.

You made me do that on my day off? Just 'cause you can't google "volume of a cylinder"?


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Now just need to figure out how much space the speaker takes up and adjust accordingly. Thanks!!!!!

Now to figure out google sketchup.. blah
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Report this Post12-27-2013 02:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick's DadClick Here to visit Patrick's Dad's HomePageSend a Private Message to Patrick's DadDirect Link to This Post
Is this a three tube MTM? I can't figure out how you're going to fit three drivers in a line into a side of a tube, so I'm thinking that each midwoofer is fit to its own.

Can you post a drawing?
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Report this Post12-27-2013 02:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LokiSend a Private Message to LokiDirect Link to This Post
2 tubes. 1 8" per tube and a waveguide which needs no enclosure. I'll sketch something up
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Report this Post12-27-2013 04:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick's DadClick Here to visit Patrick's Dad's HomePageSend a Private Message to Patrick's DadDirect Link to This Post
My new speakers are MTM

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Report this Post12-27-2013 04:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LokiSend a Private Message to LokiDirect Link to This Post
Pretty.

I am going this route, cause I really want to make something with my hands. I miss it ever since moving to the city and not having thr room or tools to do it.
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Originally posted by Loki:

Pretty.

I am going this route, cause I really want to make something with my hands. I miss it ever since moving to the city and not having the room or tools to do it.


See guys? This is why we need a "Like" button!

Seriously, I do like this, and I wish that I had time to do anything that I "want" to do instead of those things (like plumbing and painting) that I "have" to do....

[This message has been edited by Patrick's Dad (edited 12-27-2013).]

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Report this Post12-27-2013 06:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LokiSend a Private Message to LokiDirect Link to This Post
Will also be refinishing my dads old .22 rifle. That will be easier of course, sand and stain, but still.
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Report this Post12-27-2013 11:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick's DadClick Here to visit Patrick's Dad's HomePageSend a Private Message to Patrick's DadDirect Link to This Post
I also could probably not have done the H-PAS math (Hybrid Pressure Acceleration System) myself. I did, at one time, sketch out a unique pair of speakers, only to find out a few weeks later that Bob Carver was already making something very similar.

My box was more rectangular, placing threaded rods between the woofers, mechanically connecting them and increasing rigidity.
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Report this Post12-27-2013 11:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ZebSend a Private Message to ZebDirect Link to This Post
Care to share?
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Care to share?


Look at the Sunfire speaker at the link. I had this exact design in my brain, and I was figuring out which woofers to use, as the ribbon driver had a fairly low crossover point. Carver's cabinet is more of a trapezoid shape (from the top) so as to reduce standing waves in the cabinet. My concept was more of a rectangle so that I could cross brace the woofers together.

I always look for high WAF designs, although my A/Ts are hardly that, at the moment.
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