'Beastiality is widely practiced among men in the middle east and has been for millenia. In the countries of North Africa, the middle east as well as Pakistan and Afghanistan; men are allowed to engage in acts of beastiality with their female livestock but it is forbidden with male animals.
This excerpt from a 9th century, arabic literary work ("Risalat mufakharat al-sudan 'ala al-bidan") highlights the prevalence and history of beastiality among many arab tribes:
Are you not a member of the Kulayb tribe? Isn't your mother one of those sheep? Your fat sheep are both your pride and your shame. Al-Najashi said: If only one of the tribes of the Quraysh had degraded me other then the goat buggers Sulaym and Ashja. Al Farazdaq said: As long as I live I will never be able to bring as sacrifice the milk sheep that belonged to the Araj. After spending my money I may find the animal gives bird to a boy. Another poet: If you want more money for your female donkey, just tell the Darimi that you sell it. He will kiss its back, but for its dryness, would draw near to its buttocks. The Darimi, when he copulates with the donkey wants his mouth to reach the animals mouth. Abd ibn Rashid said: They are bad people, the best of them are still bad. To the sheep they herd they are the male and the shepherd. When one of their women is made ready for marriage; It will be the spotted sheep that weeps sincerely.
What is the Quran's stance on beastiality?'
Poor Puerto Ricans like beastiality strangely as well.
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It always seemed odd to me that you can bludgeon your cow to death & eat it, but you can't make love to it.
Your supposed to love your steak on your plate, not in your bed.
Beastality even happens here in the states. Some guy in WA state was convicted of "loving his dog." Its also mentioned in the show "Amish Mafia" so its not isolated only to Afghanistan.
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Kinda funny (in a sick way, I'll admit that) when the 3rd guy walks up, can just imagine the conversation.
3rd guy: Hey guys, whatcha doin? Other guy: Oh, we're just banging the hell outa this goat, wanna see? 3rd guy: Hells yeah, sounds great! Other guy: Yeah come on over, you gotta see the t!ts on this nanny!! Goat banger guy: Oh hey 3rd guy, how's it going? 3rd guy: Pretty danged good, when's my turn? Goat banger guy: Sorry brother, she's pretty wore out. Gotta put her away for the night or else the milk tastes funny in the morning. 3rd guy: Aw, that's cool. Hook me up with her sister???
Did I go too far?
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Your supposed to love your steak on your plate, not in your bed.
Beastality even happens here in the states. Some guy in WA state was convicted of "loving his dog." Its also mentioned in the show "Amish Mafia" so its not isolated only to Afghanistan.
Yup, their was a destination resort of sorts up by the border, it was a Brit that got arrested. "on vacation". We did have a guy get killed by a horse in Enumclaw WA some years ago too.
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You got a few screws loose Mike...but enough of stating the obvious This is farked up and funny...
Once upon a time I worked with a guy that used to say the best lay of your life is a goat at the edge of a cliff...reason being? the goat pushes back...]
And in Soviet Russia, goat bangs you...
Now that's going too far
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Just waiting for New and Rinselberg to jump in and argue that the man was probably a Christian, and that there is no way a faithful Muslim would be caught fornicating with a goat. Cause everyone knows, a true Muslim would be too busy beating the life out of their wives, and cruising the elementary schools on their camel in search of their next child bride to have sex with a goat. Allah decreed it! :P
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I have seen this a few times, not the video, in real life during my year tour in Afghanistan. It occurs more than one person should ever see. Either at night or even in broad daylight. The Afghans view it as Men as for Pleasure, Goats are for Pleasure, and Women are for Reproduction only.
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Originally posted by loafer87gt: Just waiting for newf and rinselberg to jump in and argue that the man was probably a Christian, and that there is no way a faithful Muslim would be caught fornicating with a goat. Cause everyone knows, a true Muslim would be too busy beating the life out of their wives, and cruising the elementary schools on their camel in search of their next child bride to have sex with a goat. Allah decreed it! :P
Bestiality advocate in CANADA charged with--wait for it--bestiality
This Canadian man's name is Brian Anthony Cutteridge. I scanned his treatise "For the Love of Dog: On the Legal Prohibition of Zoophilia in Canada and the United States" and I cannot find any reference that would suggest that he is a Muslim or that his advocacy draws on any identifiably Islamic beliefs. So I think it's safe to conclude (by Occam's Razor) that he's not a Muslim, or at least that Islam has nothing to do with his advocacy and practice of bestiality.
Just waiting for New and Rinselberg to jump in and argue that the man was probably a Christian, and that there is no way a faithful Muslim would be caught fornicating with a goat. Cause everyone knows, a true Muslim would be too busy beating the life out of their wives, and cruising the elementary schools on their camel in search of their next child bride to have sex with a goat. Allah decreed it! :P
Nope.... like most other things I don't blame the religion or all followers of any religion. Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Atheist, whatever, every one has people that are messed up I try not to generalize by the larger group like you do bigot.
People performed bestiality and it's about religion or country? I don't think so, it's about the people.....well them and the animal of course
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Once upon a time I worked with a guy that used to say the best lay of your life is a goat at the edge of a cliff...reason being? the goat pushes back...]
In addition, it is best to wear rubber boots and some velcro gloves. You stick the back legs of your subject in the boots and hold on with the velcro gloves. Also works with well sheep....sheesh, get it right
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Bestiality is widely practiced among men in the Middle East and has been for millenia. In the countries of North Africa, the Middle East, as well as Pakistan and Afghanistan, men are allowed to engage in acts of beastiality with their female livestock, but it is forbidden with male animals. This excerpt from a ninth century Arabic literary work ("Risalat mufakharat al-sudan 'ala al-bidan") highlights the prevalence and history of bestiality among many Arab tribes:
Are you not a member of the Kulayb tribe? Isn't your mother one of those sheep? Your fat sheep are both your pride and your shame. Al-Najashi said: If only one of the tribes of the Quraysh had degraded me other then the goat buggers Sulaym and Ashja. Al Farazdaq said: As long as I live I will never be able to bring as sacrifice the milk sheep that belonged to the Araj. After spending my money I may find the animal gives bird to a boy. Another poet: If you want more money for your female donkey, just tell the Darimi that you sell it. He will kiss its back, but for its dryness, would draw near to its buttocks. The Darimi, when he copulates with the donkey wants his mouth to reach the animals mouth. Abd ibn Rashid said: They are bad people, the best of them are still bad. To the sheep they herd they are the male and the shepherd. When one of their women is made ready for marriage; It will be the spotted sheep that weeps sincerely.
I don't see that this unsourced bafflegab (from DanDamage) states or even suggests that Muslims are allowed, much less encouraged, to have sex with animals.
According to my research, this verse is from Al-Jahiz, aka Abū ʿUthman ʿAmr ibn Baḥr al-Kinānī al-Baṣrī, born in Basra (in what is now Iraq) in 781.
It's not a verse from the Qur'an.
I think that Al-Jahiz was using the unsavory thought of bestiality as a way to "diss" the various tribes that are named in this verse.
There are at least 6 verses of the Old Testament (easily found) that prohibit bestiality, so the practice was obviously known among the peoples of the Middle East many centuries before Mohammed and the birth of Islam.
Prophet Muhammad said: Translation: Whoever comes unto an animal, kill him and kill it with him. Narrator: Abu Huraira and Ibn Abbas. Validity and Authentication: Authentic and undisputed. Reference: Sahih Al-Jami'a, page or number: 5938.
Prophet Muhammad said: Translation: Whoever comes unto an animal, kill him and kill it with him. Narrator: Abdallah Ibn Abbas. Validity and Authentication: Authentic and undisputed. Reference: Mushkat Al-Masabeeh, page or number: 3509.
Prophet Muhammad said: Translation: Whoever goes in unto (has sex with in other words in Arabic) an animal, kill him and kill the animal. Narrator: Abdallah Ibn Abbas. Validity and Authentication: Chained by Amru bin Abu-Amru. Both disputed it. But Yahya bin Ma'een authenticated it. Reference: Nile Al-Awtar, page or number 7/288.
Prophet Muhammad said: Translation: Whoever you find unto (having sex with) an animal, kill him and kill the animal with him. Narrator: Abdallah Ibn Abbas. Validity and Authentication: Authentic and undisputed. Reference: Sahih Al-Tirmithi, page or number: 1455.
Prophet Muhammad said: Translation: Whoever you find unto (having sex with) an animal, kill him and kill the animal with him. Narrator: Abdallah Ibn Abbas. Validity and Authentication: Authentic and undisputed. Reference: Sahih Al-Jami'a, page or number: 6588.
Prophet Muhammad said: Translation: Cursed is he who goes in unto (has sex with in other words in Arabic) an animal. Narrator: Abdallah Ibn Abbas. Validity and Authentication: Authentic and undisputed. Reference: Musnad Ahmad, page or number 3/266.
I cannot find any sources online to validate this compilation, but it seems more definitive than the short verse from Al-Jihaz which DanDamage put up.
The Qur'an itself does not make any reference to bestiality.
Yahya Snow argues that "Just because a fixed punishment for this sin [bestiality] is not set [by Islamic jurisprudence] it does not mean it is allowed in Islam or that it goes unpunished. In fact, it has been clearly shown that the act [of bestiality] is not allowed in Islam, thus the [Islamic] judge will decide on the punishment for somebody proven to have committed the degrading act of bestiality."
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