quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: None of what you said makes any sense. Just because your current President is black, he should take a different stance on crimes involving black people? And then, because I said something sounds racist (and calling a random black guy who just committed a crime on of Obama’s boys sure does sound racist) I’m the one who is not connected to the facts? So when Bush was in power, all the white people committing crimes were the Bush boys? Well I guess I’m one confused white guy…

Were you not following the Trayvon Martin / Zimmerman trial? The president felt need to interject himself into the situation as the victim was black. This was before any investigative work was done, or Zimmerman had his chance to present his case. The president was the one to quip that if he had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon. Why, because Trayvon is black like him. If there is a racist here, it is the president who has never given the same time to the countless number of whites murdered by black males, and he sure the hell has never called any of these white victims as his would be son. For a president who was elected to bring everyone together, he sure the hell is good is creating divisions.

I don't think it will be addressed in this day and age where if a white person talks about a black person committing a crime, it's considered racist and if a black person talks about it, they're considered a sell out. It seems to be a taboo subject both socially and politically and therefore, out of fear, may never be addressed. My statement is over generalized I know. But this has been going on for some time and no one is really talking about it so nothing will be done about it. Other reasoning would be welcomed.

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quote Originally posted by ilovelamp: It is ALL only black kids doing it. And this is how they prove they are "hard?" By punching someone who doesn't even see them coming?.

Well there's one thing for certain if it is something black males have started it's only a matter of time before white males will be emulating it.

What if racism is alive & well at least to some degree in every one of us.
Almost like it's hardwired into us, like some ancient survival instinct or something.

I guess the battle then is to evolve...

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: ....young males have always been the most dangerous types to be around. In the old times, we just had periodic wars, clan clashes, duels etc. as an outlet sanctioned by society. We don't have that anymore in the "civilized" world.

quote Originally posted by 2.5: We gots boxing, MMA, etc tho.

Yeah, but to succeed in something like that would require discipline and perseverance. These useless pieces of sh!t have neither of those qualities. All they're capable of doing is throwing a single sucker punch. Then it's back to the crack pipe.

Knock someone out boxing or fighting? BA.
Knock someone out with a suckerpunch? ***** move.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: What if racism is alive & well at least to some degree in every one of us. Almost like it's hardwired into us, like some ancient survival instinct or something. I guess the battle then is to evolve...

I think the defining of racism would probably be where the fault lies.
The survival instinct is alive and well but it isnt racist in itself.
Mine doesnt see race it sees actions, context, facial and body movements, etc. Things such as signs of danger. I mean, I dont care what color thugs are.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: What if racism is alive & well at least to some degree in every one of us. Almost like it's hardwired into us, like some ancient survival instinct or something. I guess the battle then is to evolve...

I’m not sure if its racism for say, but as living creatures, we are instinctually coded to be weary of what is different to us and attracted to similar. My theory is for “survival of the pack” We seek to be around those that are similar in appearance to blend in and avoid threats (camouflage) and instinctually attracted to similar in appearance for reproduction. So we don’t end up me matting with sheep etc.. (this instinct has proven to be dormant in some… poor sheep..)

However, as conscious and mostly intelligent beings, we should be able to (or should already have) evolved beyond alienating those who differ in appearance to ourselves.

Once thing I would like to add, not feeling “comfortable” or not being “attracted” to another race does not make you racist. That is personal preferences. Treating another race poorly for no other reason than how they were born is racism. Cultures and traditions also have a large impact on perceived racism. For example, a friendly gesture in one culture can be a down right insult to someone from another culture. This is a communication problem.

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quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: I’m not sure if its racism for say, but as living creatures, we are instinctually coded to be weary of what is different to us and attracted to similar. My theory is for “survival of the pack” We seek to be around those that are similar in appearance to blend in and avoid threats (camouflage) and instinctually attracted to similar in appearance for reproduction. So we don’t end up me matting with sheep etc.. (this instinct has proven to be dormant in some… poor sheep..) However, as conscious and mostly intelligent beings, we should be able to (or should already have) evolved beyond alienating those who differ in appearance to ourselves. Once thing I would like to add, not feeling “comfortable” or not being “attracted” to another race does not make you racist. That is personal preferences. Treating another race poorly for no other reason than how they were born is racism. Cultures and traditions also have a large impact on perceived racism. For example, a friendly gesture in one culture can be a down right insult to someone from another culture. This is a communication problem.

I don't think it comes down to a genetic trait, but rather being educated about those around you. I know that despite only accounting for 4% of the population, aboriginals make up 25% of the population. As such, I am going to be wary when I am around them as it would be incredibly naive to do otherwise. I know that I am a target for them, and I don't want to be on the front page of the news as their next stabbing victim so I have my guards up more when I am around them. Same thing goes with blacks. You are far more likely to be victimized by a black person than a white person - statistics prove this as fact. But if you state this, you are branded as racist by the rose colored glasses wearing liberals who pretend that these groups predisposition for violence doesn't exist.

If these groups want to do change this image, just like the Muslims who remain silent while their brothers carry out grotesque acts of terrorism, they need to starting telling their own community that this sort of violence is not acceptable, and find someway of shaming them / shunning them if they continue behaving this way.

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quote Originally posted by loafer87gt: If these groups want to do change this image, just like the Muslims who remain silent while their brothers carry out grotesque acts of terrorism, they need to starting telling their own community that this sort of violence is not acceptable, and find someway of shaming them / shunning them if they continue behaving this way.

Well, white trash tends to live in trailer parks, have poor hygiene, make illegal moonshine, smoke crack and beat their wives. Being a white guy, I don’t feel as though it is my responsibility to make them change their ways. I have far more important stuff to worry about, like my family and my own finances. How would a would an honest black person or Muslim be any different? Just because they are of a certain race or religion does not mean they are responsible for all the bad apples in the bunch. When I go to Church, we are not talking about the bad white people and what we need to do to “make them good” so why should it be a topic in a Mosk?

Black people and immigrants are statistically more likely to commit crimes. I agree with that. But it’s only been for the last few generations that they have been allowed to get an education and access to jobs we take for granted. Family wealth, educational support and other tools that we take for granted in order to be successful are not as readily available to them. Their skin color does not change their abilities. Give them all the same tools and support that white people have had for centuries and the statistics would be much different.

The latest victim in NYC, a 78 year old grandmother.

http://brooklyn.news12.com/...out-victim-1.6466604

We should pass a law against this.

quote We should pass a law against this.

We have laws against this. Assaulting a person for no reason is illegal.

quote Originally posted by avengador1: We have laws against this. Assaulting a person for no reason is illegal.

I'm thinking it was sarcasm.

quote Originally posted by avengador1: We have laws against this. Assaulting a person for no reason is illegal.

Well then I can't understand this.
Maybe a committee could figure out a better way to write the law.
I don't mean to be subversive but it doesn't seem to be working. Could be a wording problem. Maybe a comma is misplaced.

quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: Well, white trash tends to live in trailer parks, have poor hygiene, make illegal moonshine, smoke crack and beat their wives. Being a white guy, I don’t feel as though it is my responsibility to make them change their ways. I have far more important stuff to worry about, like my family and my own finances. How would a would an honest black person or Muslim be any different? Just because they are of a certain race or religion does not mean they are responsible for all the bad apples in the bunch. When I go to Church, we are not talking about the bad white people and what we need to do to “make them good” so why should it be a topic in a Mosk? Black people and immigrants are statistically more likely to commit crimes. I agree with that. But it’s only been for the last few generations that they have been allowed to get an education and access to jobs we take for granted. Family wealth, educational support and other tools that we take for granted in order to be successful are not as readily available to them. Their skin color does not change their abilities. Give them all the same tools and support that white people have had for centuries and the statistics would be much different.

This. Exactly this.

The link dose not work right now but it looks like a 60 year old woman has fired the 1st gun shots toward this game.. 2 teens dead from it.

Been waiting for this

http://beforeitsnews.com/cr...d-video-2447690.html

quote Originally posted by Old Lar: Is this "game" a black event as the videos were all of young black doing this to people who were non blacks? More Obama boyz having fun? I guess their grandma ain't rasing them right.

It appears so. They just showed a 15 minute segment on HLN. Every one of them was black, almost all wearing hoodies. Now if your walking on the street and see a black in a hoodie heading your way, get your hand on your gun and be ready to pull the trigger. Maybe they will stop after 50 of them are shot and killed.

Here in Columbus 4 men and a woman did a home invasion on a 69 year old VN veteran. He shot 2 of them, at least one is expected to die. They arrested the woman but other two men got away.

http://www.nbc4i.com/story/...ned-their-gun-on-me-

I DO think a lot of it is a genetic thing. When Im reading or doing something and not watching tv, I sometimes listed to a police scanner. I guarantee 9 out of 10 crimes they are either arresting or looking for are black. Nearly every one of the crimes right around my house are blacks. They were stealing stuff from the car wash at least 3 times a week I caught them...luckily its leveled and hauled off now. The neighbors cars were broken into by blacks ( I have them on camera and she seen them), the KMart was robbed by one. The Taco-Bell was robbed by them. Another closeby auto shop had vehicles broken into during the day several times by the same ones. The drug store on the corner got robbed by one. I really didnt have none of this till they moved out into this area. I got an occasional break in maybe 10 years ago before I put in security. White guys stole my trailer, but black attempted to take wheels off a customer car. Maaco behind me gets wheels and radios stolen weekly from customer cars. I used to even leave a convertible outside with the top down overnite. Now I lock up the car everytime I get out of one. I lock my house door even to walk to the dumpster. I think they all try to emmulate their hero Chris Brown who gets away with anything he does. I see hes charged now with throwing a rock thru his own moms car window because she wanted him to stay in rehab. Hes another one that needs to be locked up.

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quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: It appears so. They just showed a 15 minute segment on HLN. Every one of them was black, almost all wearing hoodies. Now if your walking on the street and see a black in a hoodie heading your way, get your hand on your gun and be ready to pull the trigger. Maybe they will stop after 50 of them are shot and killed. Here in Columbus 4 men and a woman did a home invasion on a 69 year old VN veteran. He shot 2 of them, at least one is expected to die. They arrested the woman but other two men got away. http://www.nbc4i.com/story/...ned-their-gun-on-me-

This sucks!

The only black people we got out here are hell of cool.

A nice couple literally just walked by out front with their cute little dog.
I'm a little suspicious though. They are awfully friendly.
The guy was wearing a black hoodie too.


Maybe the next ones I can shoot. I might be here all day at this rate.
I need to move to Columbus.

quote Originally posted by texasfiero: Been waiting for this http://beforeitsnews.com/cr...d-video-2447690.html

And just watch, now that a black has been shot, the president will suddenly feel need to speak out about the "game".

quote Originally posted by loafer87gt: And just watch, now that a black has been shot, the president will suddenly feel need to speak out about the "game".

Well maybe about the terrible things society has done to force the kids into this.


I feel pretty guilty.

If we just convince them to do this to Obuma, wed have less problems.

Conceal Carry Permits are up like 200% over all of last year in Ohio. Apparently we just need more people with guns to stop this crap. I have a black hoodie myself, but I never put the hood up unless im using the snow blower. I dont think Ill wear it at all again just to be safe.

To fit in nowadays, you have to walk with your smart phone in one hand and your other hand on the gun in your pocket. Obuma says we dont need everyone with all these guns...." were not living in the wild wild west ". Well actually, yes we are...its just not only the west.

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quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: Now if your walking on the street and see a black in a hoodie heading your way, get your hand on your gun and be ready to pull the trigger. Maybe they will stop after 50 of them are shot and killed.

Do you put your hand on your gun every time you see a Muslim?

Wait, don't answer that, I probably don't want to know the answer to that question.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: Do you put your hand on your gun every time you see a Muslim? Wait, don't answer that, I probably don't want to know the answer to that question.

Muslims don't wear black hoodies so there.

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: I have a black hoodie myself, but I never put the hood up unless im using the snow blower.

That was actually funny.

Ya, I use the hood as manufacturer intended...not to hide my identity to commit crimes. Before its said, I didnt say ALL blacks are bad...I have some that are my best friends. Just like whites, there are good and bad ones...just seems to be a higher percentage of blacks.

And although I might not have my hand in my pocket for my gun for muslims, I do watch them a little more than I would a white. It pays to be observant. Watching your back is never a bad thing. I also dont walk around with my phone in my hand like a lot I see. Do I get more apprehensive if Im alone on a street and see a group of anything coming my way. Depending on the vibe, whether white or black I might just cross the street. Yes, if its a group of younger blacks wearing hoodies, and its night, it does make me the tensest.

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No amount of stolen wallets kill. Money can be replaced.
Just one punch can kill or severely impair somebody. Life cannot be replaced.

Regardless of who, what (color or not) physical harm/violence is unacceptable. Unless of course you enjoy Nazi Germany? Just randomly attack somebody because you do not like them? Ouch... History repeats itself.

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quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: Well, white trash tends to live in trailer parks, have poor hygiene, make illegal moonshine, smoke crack and beat their wives.

Or beat other folks' wives. Bill Clinton still lives in a trailer?

quote Give them all the same tools and support that white people have had for centuries and the statistics would be much different.

Let's ask Booker T. Washington and George Washington Carver about that. It took the two of them centuries to make something of themselves.

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quote Originally posted by xquaid: No amount of stolen wallets kill. Money can be replaced. Just one punch can kill or severely impair somebody. Life cannot be replaced. Regardless of who, what (color or not) physical harm/violence is unacceptable. Unless of course you enjoy Nazi Germany? Just randomly attack somebody because you do not like them? Ouch... History repeats itself.

Heck, it's not even that you don't like them - the victims are chosen at random.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Heck, it's not even that you don't like them - the victims are chosen at random.

Its apparently for fun, to look cool, and show off.



It shows no regard for anyone but ones self.

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Nothing new here
this has been a long standing hazing/initiation game
amazing it took so long for "the blacks" to jump into the classic fun and boys will be boys buffoonery

of course "the blacks" will be treated much differently than the high school sports players who have played this since there was high school sports

Excuses excuses

Al Sharpton takes a stand for justice.

It is an alarming trend that is spurring outrageous incidents across the country. It is deplorable, reprehensible and inexcusable. It is insane thuggery, and it is unequivocally wrong. These kids are targeting innocent people, and in many cases specifically targeting Jewish folks. We would not be silent if it were the other way around, and we will not be silent now. This behavior is racist, period. And we will not tolerate it.

There is nothing funny or even remotely entertaining about attacking innocents walking down the street. This is not a "game"; it is inhumane behavior that has no place in our country or the world.

quote Originally posted by heybjorn: Al Sharpton takes a stand for justice. It is an alarming trend that is spurring outrageous incidents across the country. It is deplorable, reprehensible and inexcusable. It is insane thuggery, and it is unequivocally wrong. These kids are targeting innocent people, and in many cases specifically targeting Jewish folks. We would not be silent if it were the other way around, and we will not be silent now. This behavior is racist, period. And we will not tolerate it. There is nothing funny or even remotely entertaining about attacking innocents walking down the street. This is not a "game"; it is inhumane behavior that has no place in our country or the world.

I honestly did not expect that.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: I honestly did not expect that.

It will be ignored by many.

quote Originally posted by newf: It will be ignored by many.

I hope not.

Is this really new?
If my memory serves me, in my 20's there was a similar game going around called wilding...

quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: Just wondering why every time a black person does anything wrong you and other call him one of Obama's boys? What affiliation (other than the color of their skin) do they have with Obama? It just seems racist to me...

It is, and Obama is the guilty party here. Pure and simple.

By and large his blatant show of racism is mostly either un noticed, un acknowledged, made excuses for or immediately turned around on anybody that mentions it. That is why myself and others don't miss a chance to repeat it. It is going to be part of his legacy, vey quotable, but unfortunately the least of the problems we will endure that he is responsible for.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: Is this really new? If my memory serves me, in my 20's there was a similar game going around called wilding...

Wilding is different. "Knockout" is one target. One hit. Wilding is almost like looting, there are often multiple targets. It was in the late 80's, my friend was among those attacked once. One of them shouted "don't go after the brothers, just get whitey".

But this "knockout" game has happened before. They called it something else. Back when cellphones first had video cameras. They'd run up and punch or slap a random person and then post the video online. Whatever they call it, it still sucks.

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