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Grammar police: It's time to kill the apostrophe! by Rallaster
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http://theweek.com/article/.../kill-the-apostrophe

I seriously hope this is satire.
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Report this Post11-12-2013 11:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NEPTUNESend a Private Message to NEPTUNEDirect Link to This Post
Spell checker's often put apo'strophe's where they don't belong.
In case anyone still cares about such thing's:
http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/apostro.asp

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No. And that article was hard to read. A competent language shouldn't need the reader to read a sentence 3 times before understanding its meaning. It should be able to be read quickly and accurately.
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Originally posted by theBDub:

No. And that article was hard to read. A competent language shouldn't need the reader to read a sentence 3 times before understanding its meaning. It should be able to be read quickly and accurately.


A language can't be competent.
The writer (or reader) has to be.

 
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com·pe·tent
ˈkämpətənt/
adjective
adjective: competent

1.
having the necessary ability, knowledge, or skill to do something successfully.
"a highly competent surgeon"
(of a person) efficient and capable.
"an infinitely competent mother of three"
synonyms: capable, able, proficient, adept, adroit, accomplished, complete, skillful, skilled, credentialed, gifted, talented, expert; More
good, excellent;
informalgreat, mean, wicked, nifty, ace
"a competent carpenter"


It's a poor carpenter (like me) who blames his tools for shoddy work.

I do's the best I can.

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quote
Originally posted by NEPTUNE:


I doe's the best I can.




I know the definition of competent, and according to some definitions used it correctly.
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Report this Post11-12-2013 11:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tbone42Send a Private Message to tbone42Direct Link to This Post
How charming to see a younger person use proper grammar and punctuation! Young man, could you carry my groceries across the street? My arm is hurt.
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Report this Post11-13-2013 12:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for lurkerSend a Private Message to lurkerDirect Link to This Post
in informal writing (like on internet fora), i'm casual about punctuation and capitalization, but always with an eye to clarity. if a contraction has the same spelling as a word, i apostrophize (is that a word?) it.
wont-won't
cant-can't
dont-?
arent-?
capitalization is for proper nouns. if it's the first word of a sentence, well, there it is at the beginning of the document, or preceded by a period, question mark or exclamation point.
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The next logical step would be for the writer to do away with all punctuation marks that people use incorrectly.

I thought punctuation was used to make reading easier. The article was very difficult to read without apostrophes.

Hain't is ain't but haint is haunt.

Now let's talk about "awhile" vs "a while".

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I rarely use them myself. The word is clear enough in most cases without it. Saves me a few keystrokes to say the same thing. ie/ cant means the same as can't unless your stupid. Im not being graded on it. More attention to using correct words is more important. Cars dont stop with breaks...they use brakes, for example.

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Report this Post11-13-2013 05:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for heybjornSend a Private Message to heybjornDirect Link to This Post
Sorry, BDub, Neptune has you on this.

 
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Originally posted by theBDub:

I know the definition of competent, and according to some definitions used it correctly.


You aren't much good with commas, however.

I know the definition of competent, and, according to some definitions, used it correctly.

or

I know the definition of competent, and according to some definitions, used it correctly.

fixed that for ya The second is better. It is closer to the way you would say the sentence.

 
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Originally posted by spark1:

Now let's talk about "awhile" vs "a while".



Ok, spark1, what is " awhile? "
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

I rarely use them myself. The word is clear enough in most cases without it. Saves me a few keystrokes to say the same thing. ie/ cant means the same as can't unless your stupid. Im not being graded on it. More attention to using correct words is more important. Cars dont stop with breaks...they use brakes, for example.



They BETTER stop with breaks, if iz iz having my coffee and not gettin paid, da damn ting BETTER be stopped

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Ignorance is a lot different than abject laziness.
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quote
Originally posted by rogergarrison:

I rarely use them myself. The word is clear enough in most cases without it. Saves me a few keystrokes to say the same thing. ie/ cant means the same as can't unless your stupid. Im not being graded on it. More attention to using correct words is more important. Cars dont stop with breaks...they use brakes, for example.



And they say my generation is lazy?

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Report this Post11-13-2013 10:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cliffwSend a Private Message to cliffwDirect Link to This Post
If you want me to read your zhit, it better be intelligible. If you don't want me to think the zhit you write is zhit, it better be intelligible.
I go way out of my way (high school drop out) to state my thoughts correctly.
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quote
Originally posted by rogergarrison:

I rarely use them myself. The word is clear enough in most cases without it. Saves me a few keystrokes to say the same thing. ie/ cant means the same as can't unless your stupid. Im not being graded on it. More attention to using correct words is more important. Cars dont stop with breaks...they use brakes, for example.



*buzzer* Cant has specific meanings, ie/ angle of an object or specific form a speaking. Can't is a contraction of can and not. They are NOT the same. Ya know, unless you're (your is possessive. you're is a contraction of you and are ) stupid.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

More attention to using correct words is more important. Cars dont stop with breaks...they use brakes, for example.



I try to do both, but sometimes the odd typo gets through.
Damn it - I even go back and use EDIT to fix my misteaks! mistakes!

The posts that ramble on and on, with no sentences at all - I don't even read them.

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Report this Post11-13-2013 11:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Yours is lazy. you use U R instead of you are, and C instead of see. Some people write texts that have to be deciphered.
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Monks dont sing, they cant.
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Report this Post11-13-2013 11:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theBDubSend a Private Message to theBDubDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by heybjorn:

Sorry, BDub, Neptune has you on this.


"


Yeah, I missed that comma. Usually, commas don't go before an "and" but that's how I talk, so I find it more natural. But as far as competent goes...

http://i.word.com/idictionary/competent

Look at definition #2. I just Bing searched competent on my phone and that was right there. I used it correctly.

I'm not a grammar Nazi. As long as I can understand it, we're good. But take that sentence, were and we're are completely different, and the apostrophe makes it much easier to understand.
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Originally posted by Rallaster:


*buzzer* Cant has specific meanings, ie/ angle of an object or specific form a speaking. Can't is a contraction of can and not. They are NOT the same. Ya know, unless you're (your is possessive. you're is a contraction of you and are ) stupid.


While you are absolutely correct, if someone reads the sentence, they know what it means. ie/ If i say "I cant go', they should know by common sense I dont mean 'slanted/angled'.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:


While you are absolutely correct, if someone reads the sentence, they know what it means. ie/ If i say "I cant go', they should know by common sense I dont mean 'slanted/angled'.


So, instead of specific grammatical rules, we should move to an inference from context system of grammar?
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I could care less.
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So, why don't you?
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