There is an unusually small Tesla dealership/showroom not far from where I live . (Santana Row) They typically have only enough room for 2-3 cars at a time. I went there only twice. When the Roadster just came out and yesterday. (because of the relatively new model S) Anyways, we were there for a good 30-40 minutes and I never even had a chance to sit inside any of the 3 cars because of all the little kids in them. Kids touching buttons, slamming doors, climbing over seats, etc... I found it very annoying that the parents were allowing their kids to spend a lot of time playing around inside the cars. I mean, I thought they were there for prospective buyers? (just sayin) Not that any of the parents gave a crap about how their kids were treating a 120K car. Kids have their place but it ain't in the drivers seat of a 120K dollar Tesla! Just sayin.....

I tried to call Tesla Customer Service but I called kind of late today. I am going to give them my opinion that THEY shouldn't allow this.
( for the reasons I mentioned above)
Kit

Get there earlier next time--that way, if it happens, you will not have to be calling cust service so late. Do it------for the children.

It's illegal to discipline children.

If you offer the salesperson a down payment, they'll make all the time in the world for you.
Are you getting a Model S or a Roadster?

I'm not getting a Tesla at this time. I'm about 119K short on the 120K floor model.
Besides, that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that A ) the parents shouldn't allow their toddlers to have free reign inside 120K cars and B) the Tesla sales staff ought to be laying down the rules in their dealership. (Ya, I know they only care about making a sale )

They could set aside some kind of "kid zone" in one corner of the dealership to keep the kids happy. You know, some hands on stuff to keep the kiddies occupied .
Kit

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quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: I'm not getting a Tesla at this time. I'm about 119K short on the 120K floor model. Besides, itjat's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that A )the patents shouldn't allow their toddlers to have free reign inside 120K cars and B) the Tesla sales staff ought to be laying down the rules in their dealership.

If the parents are dropping 120K on a car there, the sales staff will allow the kids to do whatever they want.

I'm having a problem understanding why you are having an issue with this... considering you acknowledge you're 119K short of making a purchase yourself.

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quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: I'm not getting a Tesla at this time. I'm about 119K short on the 120K floor model. Besides, that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that A ) the parents shouldn't allow their toddlers to have free reign inside 120K cars and B) the Tesla sales staff ought to be laying down the rules in their dealership. (Ya, I know they only care about making a sale ) They could set aside some kind of "kid zone" in one corner of the dealership to keep the kids happy. You know, some hands on stuff to keep the kiddies occupied . Kit

If you're not in the market, you're just another kid wanting to play in the car.

So your just another kid wanting to sit in the car and now your pouting because you didn't get your chance...got it.

quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: I'm not getting a Tesla at this time. I'm about 119K short on the 120K floor model. Besides, that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that A ) the parents shouldn't allow their toddlers to have free reign inside 120K cars and B) the Tesla sales staff ought to be laying down the rules in their dealership. (Ya, I know they only care about making a sale ) They could set aside some kind of "kid zone" in one corner of the dealership to keep the kids happy. You know, some hands on stuff to keep the kiddies occupied . Kit

LOL at the replies in this thread. so true, so sad-but-true...


But the OP has a point.

Show some damn respect.
This isn't a "bouncy house or a "touch me" museum.


Parents that let their kids be monsters should have their feet chopped off.

Your kids make a mess? You get down on your hands and knees and clean that sh*t up. and get THEM to help cleanup the mess they caused.
They break something? You just BOUGHT it.

You're teaching them it's ok to be irresponsible little sh*ts, which means they will likely grow up and be BIG sh*ts

Just chop off a few feet, they'll learn to stop b*tching and start cleaning. Stupid sh*ts, they think the world is their toilet?

TIME TO FLUSH THEM LIKE THE TURDS THEY ARE.

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I think most of you are not getting it.
I see no problem bringing your kids to the dealership but.....,,they are not the ones who will be deciding whether to buy a Tesla or not.
An adult parent/parents will decide this. I see no reason why they have to allow their kids all over the car. The cars are supposed to be there for people contemplating purchasing a Tesla, not a toy dump truck!
Kit

if you can't control your kids how could you control a car like that, we have told people like that we can't sell them a puppy because of the way they let their kids act. but then this is a car dealership not a home so who knows. think distracted driving, or just how many ways those kids could screw up a car pushing buttons while you are driving it. some peoples kids.

Steve

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quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: I think most of you are not getting it. I see no problem bringing your kids to the dealership but.....,,they are not the ones who will be deciding whether to buy a Tesla or not. An adult parent/parents will decide this. I see no reason why they have to allow their kids all over the car. The cars are supposed to be there for people contemplating purchasing a Tesla, not a toy dump truck! Kit

Are you contemplating buying a Tesla?

I mean 119k$ short sounds like you have nowhere close to the means, anymore than those kids do. Assuming their parents are legitimate potential buyers, really they have more right to climb around the car than you do, I think.

I get requests to take pictures of my car all the time and I enjoy it so I often offer to take a picture of them in the drivers seat. The kids get excited too and I like to let them into the drivers seat, but I always tell them "don't touch anything because otherwise they want to push every button and I have lots of them. My great grand daughter is the worst. Even after I tell her that, she pushes buttons. She's a favorite of mine though and I have a picture of her in my car as my screensaver. I might try to post it sometime. Edit to add. I got a ride in a Tesla roadster a couple of weeks ago. Awesome car! Fortunately my bid on eBay was $3000 below the reserve. I have no business buying another car even though I want one.

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quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: I think most of you are not getting it. I see no problem bringing your kids to the dealership but.....,,they are not the ones who will be deciding whether to buy a Tesla or not. An adult parent/parents will decide this. I see no reason why they have to allow their kids all over the car. The cars are supposed to be there for people contemplating purchasing a Tesla, not a toy dump truck! Kit

I was with you until you said you were not in the market for a Tesla. Even then it was like boo-hoo rich people problems.

quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: There is an unusually small Tesla dealership/showroom not far from where I live . (Santana Row) They typically have only enough room for 2-3 cars at a time. I went there only twice. When the Roadster just came out and yesterday. (because of the relatively new model S) Anyways, we were there for a good 30-40 minutes and I never even had a chance to sit inside any of the 3 cars because of all the little kids in them. Kids touching buttons, slamming doors, climbing over seats, etc... I found it very annoying that the parents were allowing their kids to spend a lot of time playing around inside the cars. I mean, I thought they were there for prospective buyers? (just sayin) Not that any of the parents gave a crap about how their kids were treating a 120K car. Kids have their place but it ain't in the drivers seat of a 120K dollar Tesla! Just sayin..... I tried to call Tesla Customer Service but I called kind of late today. I am going to give them my opinion that THEY shouldn't allow this. ( for the reasons I mentioned above) Kit

Is this dealership also a preschool? Just come back another time when your ready to buy.

Sounds like it is up to the dealership, and to cater to those who are going to buy a vehicle. Maybe the family was getting ready to close a deal on the car and let the kids play.
If it was your car, or you were serious in buying, then all you had to do was talk to the dealership salesperson and ask them to extract the children

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For $100K price tag, if it can't handle a few kids bouncing around in it, I don't want it.
(not that I would want to spend that kind of $$ on any vehicle)

quote Originally posted by maryjane: For $100K price tag, if it can't handle a few kids bouncing around in it, I don't want it. (not that I would want to spend that kind of $$ on any vehicle)

We're talking about a $120K car here, not a Johnny Jumper the kids should be bouncing around in. Like I said, there is a place for kids but its not in the drivers seat of an expensive car...whether the parents are closing a deal or not. I would never let my kids do that.
Kit

quote Originally posted by maryjane: For $100K price tag, if it can't handle a few kids bouncing around in it, I don't want it. (not that I would want to spend that kind of $$ on any vehicle)

I've bought houses that cost less, some people have way more money than brains. matter of fact this one cost less and has a house, barn and 25 acres to boot. screw that car, but people who can't control their own kids shouldn't be allowed to breed, never mind buy a car that cost that much. and I am sure they would be buying it on credit, that they can't afford and then say it was the dealers fault when it gets repossessed/

Steve

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quote Originally posted by jaskispyder: Sounds like it is up to the dealership, and to cater to those who are going to buy a vehicle. Maybe the family was getting ready to close a deal on the car and let the kids play. If it was your car, or you were serious in buying, then all you had to do was talk to the dealership salesperson and ask them to extract the children

Maybe the family was getting ready to close the deal? Ya right! Guess the parents of all 3 cars were all closing the deal all at the same time?
Uh......I don't think so. The story is this: the parents shouldn't allow their kids free reign inside $120K cars.

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: It's illegal to discipline children.

THIS ^^^^^^^ parents dont give a crap what their kids do these days.

Cost benefit analysis:

Which is worth more?

- Potential sale on $120,000 car
or
- Potential a kid breaks an expensive component on the car.

Looks like the dealers are willing to accept the risk, regardless of who (or what) sits in the vehicle.

- Justin

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quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: THIS ^^^^^^^ parents dont give a crap what their kids do these days.

Times haven't changed. I am not sure why people think that "these days" are any worse than in the past. Rude, obnoxious kids have always existed, as have their parents.

Plus, it gets back to the dealership. If they don't want kids in their cars, it is up to them to tell them to exit the vehicle and send them out the door. Otherwise, it is just another day of "the customer is always right".

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Maybe if the parents really were getting ready to close a deal, they should be made to purchase the display model that their kids were destroying playing in.
When I was a kid there is no way my parents would have allowed me to play around in anybody's car like it was a bouncy castle.

quote Originally posted by DANGERUS: Maybe if the parents really were getting ready to close a deal, they should be made to purchase the display model that their kids were destroying playing in. When I was a kid there is no way my parents would have allowed me to play around in anybody's car like it was a bouncy castle.

Maybe they were buying it... demo models are sold.

quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: I think most of you are not getting it.

No, we're "getting it" just fine. The kids are undisciplined. Got it.

quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: The cars are supposed to be there for people contemplating purchasing a Tesla...

Tell us again why you were at the dealership?

quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: ....,,they are not the ones who will be deciding whether to buy a Tesla or not.

And neither are you.

Be annoyed with the parents for not controlling their children. Don't blame the dealership for putting up with it to preserve a potential sale. The (potential) customer is always right ... even when they're wrong.

FWIW, I was in a store recently that had a sign posted at the entrance: All children must be hand-held!

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Eureka! I found the answer to this problem.
Just post a sign that says, "Notice: All unattended children will be given espresso and a free kitten".
(that ought to keep them distracted for a bit)
Kit

quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: Eureka! I found the answer to this problem. Just post a sign that says, "Notice: All unattended children will be given espresso and a free kitten". (that ought to keep them distracted for a bit) Kit

I guess I don't understand your stance. You are there intentionally with no ability to purchase the car. The kids are there at the parents discretion, who may or may not have the means to buy the car. I mean personally, I can't stand when I go somewhere and have to deal with others children. In so much as I will say something to the parents, kid, or proprietors of said establishment. Who I speak to really depends on the situation. If at a restaurant and kid is hassling me, I start by telling them to get on back to their parents. If it persist, I contact management or say something to the parents directly. Same for retail stores, car dealerships, etc. About the only place it flies much with me is if I am at a "kid-friendly" establishment say Chuckie Cheese. Even then there are limits to what a kid can do without offending me.

I guess the point I am making is, in all these places I am a current/potential customer. In your case you are not a customer of any kind. You speaking to a salesperson is as much a waste of their time, if not more, than having to tell kids to get off the car.

quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: Eureka! I found the answer to this problem. Just post a sign that says, "Notice: All unattended children will be given espresso and a free kitten". (that ought to keep them distracted for a bit) Kit

I have an even easier solution that requires absolutely no work on your part. Don't go to the a car dealership if you don't have the money to buy one. Pretty simple really.
I have to agree with the others that are kind of asking why do YOU have an issue with this. I bet you would really get bent out of shape exiting the Test Track ride at Epcot. Kids climbing all over the new vehicles on display.

Kevin

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: It's illegal to discipline children.

And immoral too, apparently.

quote Originally posted by User00013170: The percentage, and severity has increased. Dramatically.

I'd simply question that it is possibly more publicized given the nature of information transfer and speed in the current digital age.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: I'd simply question that it is possibly more publicized given the nature of information transfer and speed in the current digital age.

I'm going off personal experiences, not 'the news'. And no, its not that i'm a 'get off my lawn' type, i have seen it increase the last 10 years or so, and i was already that way

It's not so much common sense, but empathy that is lacking in society. Empathy is quite often something that needs to be taught, not something you simply grow up with. I suspect everyone will feel sad when they watch a sad movie, but consideration for others is something that often needs to be taught. I would probably say that most people do not really consider their actions beyond how it affects them directly. Perfect example is parking lot manners. Many people simply open their doors on other peoples cars simply because they either don't care, or never thought that the person who's car they hit would care. It's like charity... you have those who seem all to happy to tell you what to do with your money, but they themselves do not regularly give to charity of any kind.

Letting their kids climb all over a $120,000 car is simply a reflection of how the parents were raised. I would NEVER allow my child to do that... not because I would be afraid of breaking it and then having to pay for it... but because I wouldn't want to damage the car for the person who will eventually end up with it. This is a thought that would be completely lost on these parents.

quote Originally posted by jaskispyder: Times haven't changed. I am not sure why people think that "these days" are any worse than in the past. Rude, obnoxious kids have always existed, as have their parents. Plus, it gets back to the dealership. If they don't want kids in their cars, it is up to them to tell them to exit the vehicle and send them out the door. Otherwise, it is just another day of "the customer is always right".

Yes they have, but there more in abundance now. My parents, or me would never let the kids do what they get away with THESE days. My kids sat or stood quietly on the side when I told them to. If id done half of what peoples kids do now, id have had my azz busted on the spot. If I owned a dealership, there would be signs telling people to keep children from playing in cars. A 4 year old here was playing in a car the other day and pulled it out of gear. It started rolling the he tried to jump out. He fell and the car rolled over his head. He wont be doing that again. Ill bet the parents feel real good too...and there the ones to blame.

Id have been just as rude and asked if they would get their kids out so I could get in and look it over.

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quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: 4 year old here was playing in a car the other day and pulled it out of gear. It started rolling the he tried to jump out. He fell and the car rolled over his head. He wont be doing that again. Ill bet the parents feel real good too...and there the ones to blame.

In today's society, i bet they wont care, once they get the settlement. They will just pop out another kid.

$120,000 car = playhouse. Why would the "parents" care, they don't own it.

My dad would have beaten the s*** out of me if I did that!

I think some (most) parents these days are too lazy to discipline their kids. Just my .02¢

quote Originally posted by Heartland Fiero: My dad would have beaten the s*** out of me if I did that!

When i was a kid, the thought would have never even crossed my mind in the first place. Not out of fear of being beat, but out of respect for others stuff. And we didn't run around acting like heathens, it was just 'wrong'.