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Fake Highschool Grades = College Dropouts by Doug85GT
Started on: 08-19-2013 09:32 PM
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Report this Post08-19-2013 09:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Doug85GTSend a Private Message to Doug85GTDirect Link to This Post
I read this story and I feel for this guy. He has the desire to succeed but he was set up by failure by his high school. His high school failed to provide him with the tools needed for college. It gave him a false sense of accomplishment with unearned A's. I hope he graduates, but I have a feeling he won't make it.

This is why so many minority students (with the exception of Asians) fail in college. Sure, the colleges boast about their high admittance. They are silent on what counts, the minority graduation rate. I'll bet Berkley only admits minority students from his South LA high school. Students that would have to enter on academics alone would be turned away since their grades are inflated.

http://www.latimes.com/news...,0,4673807.htmlstory
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Report this Post08-19-2013 09:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
We are going to see a lot more of this after seeing other stories about how the children are being taught in school now. 2+2 can now equal 5 or 3 or infinity, if the child can explain how they arrived at that answer. Too bad 2+2=4 in the real world and college. we have failed the children if we allow this to happen.

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Report this Post08-20-2013 10:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TheDigitalAlchemistClick Here to visit TheDigitalAlchemist's HomePageSend a Private Message to TheDigitalAlchemistDirect Link to This Post
IMO, the "core" much be SOLID and TRUE.
The FOUNDATION NEEDS TO BE STRONG, just like in a building. Notfilled with holes and mistakes.


like 2+2 =4.

if they say 2+2=5,
if they are told it doesn't matter...

When that kid gets older,

EVERY TIME the kid thinks 2+2, they will think 5, then correct themselves.


and that sucks.


Kids NEED red ink, so they know what's WRONG.

This CORE stuff is only going to muck things up for another 5-10 years.

watch what happens with the grades and test results...

every few years, mess with the tests and standards and all that, and then explain away the scores, round up/down/sideways... change the benchmarks, the averages, the EVERYTHING.... BAH!!!!!


They are pushing Common Core yet are leaving it up to each smaller area to enforce it their own way.
And this "Wilson" crap, its a way to teach special Ed kids English, is being used to teach 'regular' kid, but the teachers aren't even trained/certified in it, so they don't know even how to use it...

it's all so messed up, it's so annoying.


http://www.theislandnow.com...54-001a4bcf887a.html


This stuff boils my blood.


"too much emphasis on the results of standardized test scores."

Test scores where they keep changing the STANDARDS so often, the results rom kids that are in phase 2 are being skewed...


GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

2+2 is 4

http://www.engageny.org/res...mon-core-assessments
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Report this Post08-20-2013 10:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
yup.
get rid of the K-12 as levels of achievement
move to the next level of the subject when you prove competence in the current level.
doesnt matter how old you are. you know it or you dont. you can do it or not.
and, of course, differing methods of subject delivery. not everyone learns the same way.

yes - college classes require you to give a $hit.
dont want to learn? doesnt matter to the teacher.
the only person who is gonna hold your hand is yourself.

I have retirement on my horizon now, and I still take college classes. I do occasionaly see these folk.
High School used to have "college prep" courses. do these still exist?
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

yup.
get rid of the K-12 as levels of achievement
move to the next level of the subject when you prove competence in the current level.
doesnt matter how old you are. you know it or you dont. you can do it or not.
and, of course, differing methods of subject delivery. not everyone learns the same way.

yes - college classes require you to give a $hit.
dont want to learn? doesnt matter to the teacher.
the only person who is gonna hold your hand is yourself.

I have retirement on my horizon now, and I still take college classes. I do occasionaly see these folk.
High School used to have "college prep" courses. do these still exist?


Only for 'advanced' students, but if the school is rigging the system does it matter?

The kid was cheated and he's busting his ass to try and make it. I have massive amounts of respect for this kid. I was a slacker in school because I wasn't challenged in the courses I was placed in and barely passed. If I had actually capitalized on the knowledge I had and put in half the amount of effort this kid has I'd have at least 2 advanced degree's right now, maybe even 3.
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Fake Highschool Grades = College Dropouts = More people on welfare = more control

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Report this Post08-20-2013 02:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mike-ohioClick Here to visit mike-ohio's HomePageSend a Private Message to mike-ohioDirect Link to This Post
What Doug85Gt said about colleges being silent on minority graduation rates is 100% true.

I attended the admittance procedures for my son 5 years ago and there were minority students everywhere. At least 30 to 40 percent of the Ohio State class entering college that year was minority as far as I could see just from the crowd. It may have been higher but that is a conservative estimate just looking at the students.

Four years later at graduation it was apparent that less than 5% of the crowd was minority students. I attempted to find the graduation statistics online but they are not available. And not tracked.

Yes many students do not make it through college but just from observing the crowds compared to four years earlier it was apparent.
This is not based on statistics just my observations.

I am more concerned on the “agenda” being pursued by the colleges by not tracking this information. If it is so important to track it during admission to the University why is it not important to also track the graduation rate?

How are issues to be resolved without tracking this information?
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Report this Post08-20-2013 02:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseDirect Link to This Post
Oh you mean like the stupid "no zero" policy we have here in Alberta?

One teacher was actually fired from his job because he dared to give out zero: http://www.cbc.ca/news/cana...no-zero-parents.html

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Report this Post08-20-2013 03:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for xquaidClick Here to visit xquaid's HomePageSend a Private Message to xquaidDirect Link to This Post
Speaking of college and lack of graduation rates..... Who cares about race, let's talk about the PRICE!

500%+ increase in tuition over past 20 years....

Using the logic presented in the article above I will describe this (college degree) logic in terms of purchasing a home:

*Assume the "house" is the "college education".
*Understand not all college students graduate in 4 years.....
*This example is intended to make you think. I am not looking to split hairs or point out particular details. JUST THINK....

An example:
People buy a house on an ARM interest rate.
Imagine the payment is only $1,000 per month starting out.
In 2 years it jumps to $1,100 per month.
In 4 years it jumps to $1,400 per month.
By year 6 the payment is at $1,800 per month.

You think this person wants to stay on this house for another 24 years paying higher payments?


Now replace the word house with COLLEGE TUITION.

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Report this Post08-20-2013 03:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mike-ohioClick Here to visit mike-ohio's HomePageSend a Private Message to mike-ohioDirect Link to This Post
xquaid, this only impacts people who have to pay.

My son had several small scholarships that were performance based (grades and projects) not financial or needs based.

Took the University 6 months to figure out how to accept them and apply them to his account. They see so few of these type scholarships and are set up only to process needs based scholarships.
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Originally posted by xquaid:
*Assume the "house" is the "college education".


A lot of people talk about being house slaves because of payments. Usually you can sell a house and be rid of your shackles. But, college education debt, failed to complete college education debt, never develops a value and has just as much ability to enslave you financially. Financial enslavement vs physical enslavement still you lose your ability to thrive to your potential.
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Originally posted by FriendGregory:


A lot of people talk about being house slaves because of payments. Usually you can sell a house and be rid of your shackles. But, college education debt, failed to complete college education debt, never develops a value and has just as much ability to enslave you financially. Financial enslavement vs physical enslavement still you lose your ability to thrive to your potential.


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Report this Post08-21-2013 11:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Ive said for years, high schools hand out undeserved high grades to make themselves look good. I know many 'straight A' students that cant spell or do simple math. It was well known even when I was in high school, that athletes on the schools teams got good grades to keep them on the teams...no matter how poor they were in the subjects.
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