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the goverment is broke but irs giving 70 million in bonus to themselfs by fierobrian
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Report this Post06-19-2013 05:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierobrianSend a Private Message to fierobrianDirect Link to This Post
WASHINGTON (AP) — Already reeling from a pair of scandals, the Internal Revenue Service is drawing new criticism over plans to hand out millions of dollars in employee bonuses.

The Obama administration has ordered agencies to cancel discretionary bonuses because of automatic spending cuts, but the IRS says it's merely following legal obligations under a union contract.

The agency is about to pay $70 million in employee bonuses, said Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, a senior Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, which has jurisdiction over the IRS.

Grassley says his office has learned that the IRS was to execute an agreement with the employees' union Wednesday to pay the bonuses. Grassley says the bonuses should be canceled under an April directive from the White House budget office.

The directive was written by Danny Werfel, a former budget official who has since been appointed acting IRS commissioner.

"The IRS always claims to be short on resources," Grassley said. "But it appears to have $70 million for union bonuses. And it appears to be making an extra effort to give the bonuses despite opportunities to renegotiate with the union and federal instruction to cease discretionary bonuses during sequestration."

The IRS said it is negotiating with the union over the matter but did not dispute Grassley's claim that the bonuses are imminent. Under the union contract, employees can get individual performance bonuses of up to $3,500 a year.

Office of Management and Budget "guidance directs that agencies should not pay discretionary monetary awards at this time, unless legally required," IRS spokeswoman Michelle Eldridge said in a statement. "IRS is under a legal obligation to comply with its collective bargaining agreement, which specifies the terms by which awards are paid to bargaining-unit employees."

Eldridge, however, would not say whether the IRS believes it is contractually obligated to pay the bonuses.

"In accordance with OMB guidance, the IRS is actively engaged with NTEU on these matters in recognition of our current budgetary constraints," Eldridge said.

The National Treasury Employees Union did not respond to requests for comment. In a message to members on an NTEU website, the union said it had invoked its "right to bargain over any suspension of bargaining unit performance awards programs."

"NTEU fought hard for these awards programs," said the unsigned message. "They are an important part of compensation at the IRS and it is unfair to suspend these awards when employees have worked hard to earn them."

The IRS has been under fire since last month, when IRS officials acknowledged that agents had improperly targeted conservative groups for additional scrutiny when they applied for tax-exempt status during the 2010 and 2012 elections. A few weeks later, the agency's inspector general issued a report documenting lavish employee conferences during the same time period.

Three congressional committees and the Justice Department are investigating the targeting of conservative groups. And key Republicans in Congress are promising more scrutiny of the agency's budget, especially as it ramps up to play a major role in implementing the new health care law.

Much of the agency's top leadership has been replaced since the scandals broke. President Barack Obama forced the acting commissioner to resign and replaced him with Werfel, who used to work in the White House budget office.

In a letter to Werfel on Tuesday, Grassley said the IRS notified the employee union March 25 that it intended to reclaim about $75 million that had been set aside for discretionary employee bonuses. However, Grassley said, his office has learned that the IRS never followed up on the notice. Instead, Grassley said, the IRS negotiated a new agreement with the bargaining unit to pay about $70 million in employee bonuses.

Grassley's office said the information came from a "person with knowledge of IRS budgetary procedures."

"While the IRS may claim that these bonuses are legally required under the original bargaining unit agreement, that claim would allegedly be inaccurate," Grassley wrote. "In fact, the original agreement allows for the re-appropriation of such award funding in the event of budgetary shortfall."

Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, said paying the bonuses "looks like a payoff to union workers at a time when we're drowning in a sea of red ink. Given the government guidelines on sequestration, this is certainly an issue that demands further scrutiny."

Werfel wrote the directive on discretionary employee bonuses while he was still working in the White House budget office. The directive was part of the Obama administration's efforts to impose across-the-board spending cuts enacted by Congress.

The spending cuts, known as "sequestration," are resulting in at least five unpaid furlough days this year for the IRS' 90,000 employees. On these days, the agency is closed and taxpayers cannot access many of the agency's assistance programs.

Werfel's April 4 memorandum "directs that discretionary monetary awards should not be issued while sequestration is in place, unless issuance of such awards is legally required. Discretionary monetary awards include annual performance awards, group awards, and special act cash awards, which comprise a sizeable majority of awards and incentives provided by the federal government to employees."

"Until further notice, agencies should not issue such monetary awards from sequestered accounts unless agency counsel determines the awards are legally required. Legal requirements include compliance with provisions in collective bargaining agreements governing awards."

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Report this Post06-19-2013 08:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FatsSend a Private Message to FatsDirect Link to This Post
If it's under contract then it should be paid. An obligation is an obligation. Change it on the next contract, and learn from past mistakes.


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Report this Post06-19-2013 08:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Direct Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Fats:

If it's under contract then it should be paid. An obligation is an obligation. Change it on the next contract, and learn from past mistakes.


Brad


true but I didn't even know the IRS had a union, just what one is it?

I stand corrected

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...sury_Employees_Union


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Report this Post06-19-2013 09:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarDirect Link to This Post
The unions will be the death of the American way of life.
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Report this Post06-19-2013 10:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadDirect Link to This Post
Hmmmmmm.......
If they dont pay the bonuses and the union goes on strike the IRS is effectively shut down.....
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Report this Post06-19-2013 10:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
"What does it matter?".
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quote
Originally posted by olejoedad:

Hmmmmmm.......
If they dont pay the bonuses and the union goes on strike the IRS is effectively shut down.....


Win-win..?
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Report this Post06-20-2013 07:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Fats:

If it's under contract then it should be paid. An obligation is an obligation. Change it on the next contract, and learn from past mistakes.


Brad


Yup, exactly. Fire the people who signed off on the contract


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Originally posted by Old Lar:

The unions will be the death of the American way of life.


Any more than greedy CEOs or the banking industry? The current recession wasn't caused by unions....

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Report this Post06-20-2013 08:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by jaskispyder:
Any more than greedy CEOs or the banking industry? The current recession wasn't caused by unions....


hey if they are allowed to get their bonuses after running a company into the ground why shouldn't a union member be allowed to get a performance based bonus, they earned them were as the CEOs who ran the companies into the ground didn't but are still allowed because they have a contract.

 
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Hmmmmmm.......
If they dont pay the bonuses and the union goes on strike the IRS is effectively shut down.....


They can't go on strike read about their union rights in the link I posted.

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Report this Post06-20-2013 09:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fformula88Send a Private Message to Fformula88Direct Link to This Post
This shouldn't be about unions at all, but about who there is doing their job above and beyond and should be given additional compensation. I have a feeling there are individuals working for the IRS, who have nothing to do with their agency playing politics, but are honest and hard working folks who probably deserve some recognition in a sea of average, underperforming people. Of course, that assumes the right people would get the bonus in the end too.

Now, whether there is money for a bonus or not is a seperate issue too. Either there are budgeted funds for it, or there are not. If there are, it would be a bit strange considering some workers are on furlough one day a week due to sequestration, but such is the government too. Each agency has different budgets in which to manage their operations.

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